Trump's press conference 8/25

[HawkAttackDial911]

First of all, no matter how the press spins it, Trump didn't kick that Univision guy out. In fact he handled the situation really well, didn't take crap from him, and even let him back in and answered his questions. Color me impressed. How many other candidates would have handled that situation as well as he did? It's amazing how the media can change a story to fit their preconceived notions.

 

[Funky Bunch]

Wonder how his wife feels that he doesn't have his wedding ring on.

 

[Bob Pelini_]

I can't wait to see what happens first time BlackLiesMatter storms his stage, I wouldn't want to be sitting in the first 3 or 4 rows because I suspect that's where BLM will land.

 

[swagsurfer02]

I can't wait to see what happens first time BlackLiesMatter storms his stage, I wouldn't want to be sitting in the first 3 or 4 rows because I suspect that's where BLM will land.

Agreed, guy is gonna ask what they do for work and then offer them jobs. When they decline (because they will), he will show America that these types of people are the problem. Not the solution.

 

[thewop]

First of all, no matter how the press spins it, Trump didn't kick that Univision guy out. In fact he handled the situation really well, didn't take crap from him, and even let him back in and answered his questions. Color me impressed. How many other candidates would have handled that situation as well as he did? It's amazing how the media can change a story to fit their preconceived notions.

I agree, then they let him back in and the guy looked like a total idiot, while Trump did everything he could to answer as the guy kept interrupting him. I was impressed too.

 

[polishhawk]

I agree, then they let him back in and the guy looked like a total idiot, while Trump did everything he could to answer as the guy kept interrupting him. I was impressed too.

Trump is the best thing for this election. Make people talk about the real issues. Is he presedential material? Probably not. But he tells it how it is. Love it

 

[lucas80]

Jorge Ramos must be on the Trump payroll. MSNBC is in full throated roar, but, Trump's base is eating up today's events. Trump criticized Sanders and Bush for ceding control of their stages, and Trump showed who is in charge today.
I might shock some of you, but, I thought Ramos was out of line. He was clearly looking to make a scene. I don't know the ground rules of the press conference, or if there were any, but Ramos hadn't been called on. It was the first or second question of the press conference and he tried to bull his way on the stage. That's what you do if at the end you've been ignored. Supposedly Trump has been avoiding him.
I'll also say that when Trump did engage he won the discussion. You could barely hear Ramos, and Trump politely responded to him. He wasn't yelling back or telling him to shut up repeatedly. And, at the end when the issue of drug gangs came up Trump hit it out of the park by asking Ramos if the drug gang members should be deported and Ramos kept trying to ask something different. Hint to Jorge Ramos, the average American (Republican or Democrat), wants to see members of gangs deported.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Ramos is a deservedly respected journalist. Possibly the most respected journalist by the Hispanic community.

Those tactics may work and even be justified when smacking the imitation journalists from Fox but he shouldn't be able to get away with treating Ramos like that.

Unless the GOP and each individual GOP candidate clearly disowns Trump for this - and is quick about it - they just lost what little Hispanic support they might have gotten from the Hispanic community.

Bush and Rubio had better have ALREADY attacked Trump, and attacked him hard.

 

[IMCC965]

Ramos is a deservedly respected journalist. Possibly the most respected journalist by the Hispanic community.

Those tactics may work and even be justified when smacking the imitation journalists from Fox but he shouldn't be able to get away with treating Ramos like that.

Unless the GOP and each individual GOP candidate clearly disowns Trump for this - and is quick about it - they just lost what little Hispanic support they might have gotten from the Hispanic community.

Bush and Rubio had better have ALREADY attacked Trump, and attacked him hard.

Lucas makes sense and you still sound like a moron because your blinders are on extra tight.

 

[lucas80]

Lucas makes sense and you still sound like a moron because your blinders are on extra tight.

Would it have killed you to like me!!!

 

[HawkAttackDial911]

WWJD, you clearly didn't watch the press conference in its entirety. It was clearly Ramos who was out of line and Trump kept his cool and even let him back to debate him. Stop letting the media skew your view. Watch it for yourself.

 

[lucas80]

Ramos is a deservedly respected journalist. Possibly the most respected journalist by the Hispanic community.

Those tactics may work and even be justified when smacking the imitation journalists from Fox but he shouldn't be able to get away with treating Ramos like that.

You are ignoring the intended audience, and the ground rules for the presser. Sometimes they are free for alls, and sometimes there are protocols in place. If the protocol was wait your turn then Ramos was out of line, and his journalist brethren (Minus the MSNBC crowd), probably won't get too worked up over it.
The predictably Trump part of the exchange was when Trump denied he knew who Ramos was. Clearly he knows who he is. But, he fed off of Ramos and hit all his main points while slapping around a lefty journalist. That's as red meat as you can get for a Republican primary voter right now.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

You are ignoring the intended audience, and the ground rules for the presser. Sometimes they are free for alls, and sometimes there are protocols in place. If the protocol was wait your turn then Ramos was out of line, and his journalist brethren (Minus the MSNBC crowd), probably won't get too worked up over it.

The predictably Trump part of the exchange was when Trump denied he knew who Ramos was. Clearly he knows who he is. But, he fed off of Ramos and hit all his main points while slapping around a lefty journalist. That's as red meat as you can get for a Republican primary voter right now.

I'd bet you don't know the rules either. And yet you are defending Trump based on rules you think might have been in place.

No, I didn't watch the whole thing. The part I saw had someone else finishing up some words and turning over the podium to Trump. And that's when Ramos asked his question. Looked like perfectly good journalistic instincts to me.

I'll stick to my original comment.

If people defend Trump on this, I'll be delighted. It just hurts the GOP brand with a demographic they should be selling their collective kidneys to woo.

 

[unIowa]

Ramos is a deservedly respected journalist. Possibly the most respected journalist by the Hispanic community.

Those tactics may work and even be justified when smacking the imitation journalists from Fox but he shouldn't be able to get away with treating Ramos like that.

Unless the GOP and each individual GOP candidate clearly disowns Trump for this - and is quick about it - they just lost what little Hispanic support they might have gotten from the Hispanic community.

Bush and Rubio had better have ALREADY attacked Trump, and attacked him hard.

Trump was the adult in the room for this exchange wwjd. Like his message or hate it he handled it well and the report came across like a code pink activist (those are cnn Words....i happen to agree from what i heard).

 

[BioHawk]

Lucas makes sense and you still sound like a moron because your blinders are on extra tight.

I'm sure this played well with the base but it's not so smart for the long game. I just don't know how anybody can win the Presidency with only getting 15% of the hispanic vote and 40% of the female vote. But Trump seems to have a plan that he feels he can pull off and it seems to be working so far. I'm actually starting to think he might pull the nomination thing off.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Trump was the adult in the room for this exchange wwjd. Like his message or hate it he handled it well and the report came across like a code pink activist (those are cnn Words....i happen to agree from what i heard).

"The report"? What report are you talking about.

Unless you can tell me that watching more of the PC would give me a different impression, I think you are totally wrong. And I find it disturbing that you would defend Trump in this case. Totally unprofessional, arrogant, bullying, dismissive and, in the final analysis, completely unpresidential.

But as I say, keep defending him. It will just sour Hispanics against the GOP. And deservedly so.

BTW, Trump is never the adult in any room. Spoiled child, on a good day.

 

[unIowa]

"The report"? What report are you talking about.

Unless you can tell me that watching more of the PC would give me a different impression, I think you are totally wrong. And I find it disturbing that you would defend Trump in this case. Totally unprofessional, arrogant, bullying, dismissive and, in the final analysis, completely unpresidential.

But as I say, keep defending him. It will just sour Hispanics against the GOP. And deservedly so.

BTW, Trump is never the adult in any room. Spoiled child, on a good day.

I was listening to a little cnn radio while driving home from a little golf (I lost btw) and they replayed this and the whole cnn Pannel was all over Ramos for acting the fool bc he was stepping out of turn. I agree based on what i heard, then Trump lets him ask his questions later and answers them (from what was being reported), Trump appeared to be the bigger man in the situation from what i heard.

That doesn't mean i like the Don's ideas but that i believe in proper decorum and Trump showed that and this journalist didn't. Why is that so Hard to understand? It's ok to jot like someone and still compliment them on their handling of a situation, likewise if you like someone and they played the role of poor sport it is ok to call them out...that is all i did.

 

[HallofFame]

"The report"? What report are you talking about.

Unless you can tell me that watching more of the PC would give me a different impression, I think you are totally wrong. And I find it disturbing that you would defend Trump in this case. Totally unprofessional, arrogant, bullying, dismissive and, in the final analysis, completely unpresidential.

But as I say, keep defending him. It will just sour Hispanics against the GOP. And deservedly so.

BTW, Trump is never the adult in any room. Spoiled child, on a good day.

Dude just stop any adult can see Trump handled that just fine. I'm sure the reporter being in Hillarys pocket has nothing to do with his baiting. Hell his daughter works on Clintons campaign.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I was listening to a little cnn radio while driving home from a little golf (I lost btw) and they replayed this and the whole cnn Pannel was all over Ramos for acting the fool bc he was stepping out of turn. I agree based on what i heard, then Trump lets him ask his questions later and answers them (from what was being reported), Trump appeared to be the bigger man in the situation from what i heard.

That doesn't mean i like the Don's ideas but that i believe in proper decorum and Trump showed that and this journalist didn't. Why is that so Hard to understand? It's ok to jot like someone and still compliment them on their handling of a situation, likewise if you like someone and they played the role of poor sport it is ok to call them out...that is all i did.

I can't speak to what happened later. But what you recount from the earlier exchange doesn't fit what I saw. The video is on Facebook and is credited to CBS, but I can't get a link to embed here. So here is my transcript for you....

What I saw was some guy at the podium finishing up and Trump stepping up to the podium. As Trump stepped up to the podium, Ramos began to ask his question, saying "Mr Trump I have a question about immigration."

Trump deliberately ignored him and said into the mic "OK, who's next" and then pointed to someone saying "yeah, please."

Ramos is still trying to ask his question about immigration saying something like " I am an imigrant and I would ...."

Trump turns to Ramos and says "Excuse me, sit down, you weren't called. Sit down! Sit down! Siiit doown!"

Ramos says "I have a right to ask a question."

Trump says "No you don't. You haven't been called. Go back to Univision."

Ramos continues to try to ask his question.

Trump signals his goon who goes over to Ramos, takes his arm and seems to be escorting him away when the video ends.

Unless you have some reason to think that journalists at a PC should be timid and wait their turn, Ramos was NOT out of line. This guy is the Walter Cronkite of Hispanic news. Bad decision. And troubling that otherwise reasonable people are defending Trump.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Dude just stop any adult can see Trump handled that just fine. I'm sure the reporter being in Hillarys pocket has nothing to do with his baiting. Hell his daughter works on Clintons campaign.

You are embarrassing yourself.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Lindsey Graham (SC) said during an interview with CNN on Tuesday that if real estate mogul Donald Trump wins the party's nomination, it will be the end of the GOP.

"If Donald Trump is the nominee, that’s the end of the Republican Party," Graham said.

Graham was defending his dismal numbers in his home state of South Carolina, where the latest poll showed him earning 4 percent of likely Republican primary voters to Trump's 30 percent.

Graham continued his attack, criticizing Trump's lack of military and foreign policy experience.

"He's shallow. He’s ill-prepared to be commander in chief," the retired Air Force colonel told CNN. "He's a complete idiot when it comes to Mideast policy."

Graham said "common sense" will win out, but until then, "Our soldiers deserve better."

Graham said that Trump's views on immigrants and women do not reflect the modern Republican party.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-end-republican-party

 

[icu81222]

LOL at a Obama worshipper claiming someone looks unpresidential.

Leftists are ridiculous. BAU

 

[unIowa]

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Lindsey Graham (SC) said during an interview with CNN on Tuesday that if real estate mogul Donald Trump wins the party's nomination, it will be the end of the GOP.

"If Donald Trump is the nominee, that’s the end of the Republican Party," Graham said.

Graham was defending his dismal numbers in his home state of South Carolina, where the latest poll showed him earning 4 percent of likely Republican primary voters to Trump's 30 percent.

Graham continued his attack, criticizing Trump's lack of military and foreign policy experience.

"He's shallow. He’s ill-prepared to be commander in chief," the retired Air Force colonel told CNN. "He's a complete idiot when it comes to Mideast policy."

Graham said "common sense" will win out, but until then, "Our soldiers deserve better."

Graham said that Trump's views on immigrants and women do not reflect the modern Republican party.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-end-republican-party

To be fair Graham is kind of a bitch, "the end of the R party" give me a break cry-baby Graham.

My theory on why Trump has the support he does: 1. Americans are shallow (thanks reality TV), 2. Our current political class in DC have made a mockery out of proper governing.

The people have basically said, eff-it, we just want to be entertained so Trump is their man...I get it. I never would have said this a month back but the guy has a shot.

 

[unIowa]

I love that career politicians are getting their teeth kicked in, it's great. I hope Hillary gets arrested (she is plain awful) and i hope we see Bernie and Paul in the race to the WH.

I could live w either, both seem to be on the side of expanded personal liberties and i like that.

 

[JupiterHawk]

the dude continues to piss off the Latin population. How do you expect him to win Florida and can he win the general without Florida?

 

[thewop]

Jorge Ramos must be on the Trump payroll. MSNBC is in full throated roar, but, Trump's base is eating up today's events. Trump criticized Sanders and Bush for ceding control of their stages, and Trump showed who is in charge today.
I might shock some of you, but, I thought Ramos was out of line. He was clearly looking to make a scene. I don't know the ground rules of the press conference, or if there were any, but Ramos hadn't been called on. It was the first or second question of the press conference and he tried to bull his way on the stage. That's what you do if at the end you've been ignored. Supposedly Trump has been avoiding him.
I'll also say that when Trump did engage he won the discussion. You could barely hear Ramos, and Trump politely responded to him. He wasn't yelling back or telling him to shut up repeatedly. And, at the end when the issue of drug gangs came up Trump hit it out of the park by asking Ramos if the drug gang members should be deported and Ramos kept trying to ask something different. Hint to Jorge Ramos, the average American (Republican or Democrat), wants to see members of gangs deported.

Well said.

 

[thewop]

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Lindsey Graham (SC) said during an interview with CNN on Tuesday that if real estate mogul Donald Trump wins the party's nomination, it will be the end of the GOP.

"If Donald Trump is the nominee, that’s the end of the Republican Party," Graham said.

Graham was defending his dismal numbers in his home state of South Carolina, where the latest poll showed him earning 4 percent of likely Republican primary voters to Trump's 30 percent.

Graham continued his attack, criticizing Trump's lack of military and foreign policy experience.

"He's shallow. He’s ill-prepared to be commander in chief," the retired Air Force colonel told CNN. "He's a complete idiot when it comes to Mideast policy."

Graham said "common sense" will win out, but until then, "Our soldiers deserve better."

Graham said that Trump's views on immigrants and women do not reflect the modern Republican party.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-end-republican-party

2 things:
1. in many ways, the moderate side of the GOP and independents have been looking for a reset of sorts, and is fed up with most politicians, not just Dems. Maybe the "end of the GOP" isn't such a bad thing. Trump may be what causes one of the two parties to hurry back to the middle, and that would be a good thing.
2. No President is an expert in every area, nor should they be. Advisers and cabinet members are important and necessary.

 

[SoFla-Hawkeye]

"Go back to Univision" is what will, and should, stick.

 

[HawkAttackDial911]

It's the media's reaction to this that worries me more than anything else. The guy clearly tried to grandstand him and Trump handled the situation probably better than any other candidate on both sides of the isle would. Yet here we are, Trump is still getting all kinds of flack. So my question is, do the these big media outlets contribute money to politics? It seems the liberal media is clearly behind Clinton and the Fox company is behind Bush. Some of the candidates can't get a fair shake.

 

[augHAWK]

QUOTE="thewop, post: 665646, member: 2416"]2 things:
1. in many ways, the moderate side of the GOP and independents have been looking for a reset of sorts, and is fed up with most politicians, not just Dems. Maybe the "end of the GOP" isn't such a bad thing. Trump may be what causes one of the two parties to hurry back to the middle, and that would be a good thing.
2. No President is an expert in every area, nor should they be. Advisers and cabinet members are important and necessary.[/QUOTE]

The end of the GOP [as we know it] is a good thing.

On another note, it's false to say that the right has controlled the GOP. While it's true that we may hear more from the right (talk radio, far right candidates, etc.), they do not control the GOP. The establishment Republican Party is moderate and generally is afraid to take a conservative stance on much of anything. They have ignored (and in some cases deceived) their conservative base and have paved the way for Trump. If Republicans like Graham had paid attention to their base, we wouldn't be in this situation.

 

[mstp1992]

First of all, no matter how the press spins it, Trump didn't kick that Univision guy out. In fact he handled the situation really well, didn't take crap from him, and even let him back in and answered his questions. Color me impressed. How many other candidates would have handled that situation as well as he did? It's amazing how the media can change a story to fit their preconceived notions.

I thought Trump handled it about as well as he could have. I'm not saying it was handled perfectly, but while Ramos is a well-respected journalist I got the impression he was trying to get Trump to 'blow-up' and lose control. I think he was trying for a bit of gotcha journalism which seems beneath Ramos' abilities.

 

[Old_wrestling_fan]

It's the media's reaction to this that worries me more than anything else. The guy clearly tried to grandstand him and Trump handled the situation probably better than any other candidate on both sides of the isle would. Yet here we are, Trump is still getting all kinds of flack. So my question is, do the these big media outlets contribute money to politics? It seems the liberal media is clearly behind Clinton and the Fox company is behind Bush. Some of the candidates can't get a fair shake.

I don't know about any contributions, but it does seem clear to me that ALL of the MSM media, to one degree or another, is heavily tilted to sensationalize the drama aspect of the news. I know they are coached to use voice inflections, etc, to emphasize aspects of a story they are reporting to catch the audience's attention and/or appeal to an emotional reaction, etc.

All of this is be design to keep viewers parked in front of their sets and keep their eyes on their channel...to then be able to get/keep better ratings. I completely support Trump's right to remove the disruptive reporter, although I think he did err slightly by making the "go back to Univision" comment. There he revealed his contempt for Univision and a pettiness or revenge streak that is cause for concern to me. (Although he certainly is not the only petty, vengeful politician around...see Barack Obama for starters.)

I would have preferred that he handle it with less zest, but the reported was clearly trying to get himself on TV and create a scene and I am sick of people disrupting or trying to upstage the speaker at political gatherings in particular.

One other comment...for those that are concerned that Trump's treatment of ONE out of line hispanic reporter will then lead to him failing miserably in getting any hispanic votes, etc...aren't you really then saying that "those people" all think alike and are incapable of making an informed decision about who they might vote for? Aren't you really displaying your own racist thoughts be grouping millions of people together, as though there cannot be honest to goodness hispanics that saw that exchange and thought...hmmm, that reporter is out of line?

 

[icu81222]

I thought Trump handled it about as well as he could have. I'm not saying it was handled perfectly, but while Ramos is a well-respected journalist I got the impression he was trying to get Trump to 'blow-up' and lose control. I think he was trying for a bit of gotcha journalism which seems beneath Ramos' abilities.

Good post. However , Ramos is more of an activist than a true journalist. He likes to claim either way depending on which one benefits him at the time.

That isn't a true journalist. He is a biased, partisan hack. He has even said as much.

He is respected by those who agree with his views. Not universally.

 

[mstp1992]

Good post. However , Ramos is more of an activist than a true journalist. He likes to claim either way depending on which one benefits him at the time.

That isn't a true journalist. He is a biased, partisan hack. He has even said as much.

He is respected by those who agree with his views. Not universally.

I suppose this is the case for a lot of journalists. I don't agree with Krauthammer hardly ever at all (or some others like him), although I do think he's good at what he does and certainly is a good writer.

Where would Rush Limbaugh fit in? He's not really a journalist, I guess. So, the fact I don't agree with him or respect him are not the same as Ramos.

 

[lucas80]

Different angles today. I wasn't shocked to hear Joe Scarborough say that Ramos was in the wrong. I was moderately surprised to hear Mika say Ramos was wrong. Jose Diaz Balart isn't giving much love to Ramos this morning, either.
I look forward to all interactions with the press that Trump has until he implodes. Reporters that try to play "gotcha", with Trump are doomed. He'll steamroll them. And, again, this is exactly what the Trump base wants. They love it that the media is being bashed. What Fox cannot seem to understand, and is getting all misty eyed over, is that Trump is going after them, too.

 

[TennesseeWaltz1]

First of all, no matter how the press spins it, Trump didn't kick that Univision guy out. In fact he handled the situation really well, didn't take crap from him, and even let him back in and answered his questions. Color me impressed. How many other candidates would have handled that situation as well as he did? It's amazing how the media can change a story to fit their preconceived notions.

Well that gives me something in common with Donnie...we both have kicked out smartassed reporters...good for him.

 

[1inamillion]

refreshing to see mstp and lucas that are at least willing to tip that hat to the other side.wwjd needs to take a hint.

 

[lucas80]

refreshing to see mstp and lucas that are at least willing to tip that hat to the other side.wwjd needs to take a hint.

1. Don't get used to it.
2. Not sure I am really tipping my hat to Trump. I just feel that Ramos was showboating, and he played right into Trump's hands. Trump hit a home run in my estimation.
3. I was wondering if WWJD just got sleepy, or decided to stop digging when his head was below ground level.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Lindsey Graham (SC) said during an interview with CNN on Tuesday that if real estate mogul Donald Trump wins the party's nomination, it will be the end of the GOP.

"If Donald Trump is the nominee, that’s the end of the Republican Party," Graham said.

Graham was defending his dismal numbers in his home state of South Carolina, where the latest poll showed him earning 4 percent of likely Republican primary voters to Trump's 30 percent.

Graham continued his attack, criticizing Trump's lack of military and foreign policy experience.

"He's shallow. He’s ill-prepared to be commander in chief," the retired Air Force colonel told CNN. "He's a complete idiot when it comes to Mideast policy."

Graham said "common sense" will win out, but until then, "Our soldiers deserve better."

Graham said that Trump's views on immigrants and women do not reflect the modern Republican party.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lindsey-graham-donald-trump-end-republican-party

calling linda graham a republican is like calling bruce jenner a woman

 

[mstp1992]

calling linda graham a republican is like calling bruce jenner a woman

Sorry OiT, you don't get to make the definitions.