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UI Hires Firm to better relations with its own fans LOL

I would like to know how many posting in this thread pay for season tickets and donate. Easy to say and it will get some riled up...but don't bitch if you don't participate

It would also be worth noting who previously had tickets and their reasoning for letting them go. That would be valuable info for the admin.
 
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He is 101% right...here is Alabama

Single Game Tickets
Single Game Options Price
Arkansas State $40
Texas A&M $110
Louisiana $55
Missouri $85
Mississippi State $85
Citadel $40
Auburn $140

That's very telling. You can watch a perennial national title contender and team likely to allow you to say "I saw them the year they won the championship" for as little as 40 bucks (I know we have cheap games also) and 2 top tier teams for 40 dollars more than an Iowa ticket. What was Iowa vs OSU? (The big 10s most likely "I saw them the year they played for a championship")
 
It would also be worth noting who previously had tickets and their reasoning for letting them go. That would be valuable info for the admin.
If it was because of the "fan experience" then that is very weak. Been to over 25 college stadiums and there is not much different between any of them. If music, WiFi, concessions are that big of deal to drop out then good riddance. Many, including me, pay and donate to support the ATHLETE and that is where it ends. Just my opinion but I couldn't care less what is on the loud speaker during warmups and if the hot dogs are big enough
 
That's very telling. You can watch a perennial national title contender and team likely to allow you to say "I saw them the year they won the championship" for as little as 40 bucks (I know we have cheap games also) and 2 top tier teams for 40 dollars more than an Iowa ticket. What was Iowa vs OSU? (The big 10s most likely "I saw them the year they played for a championship")
It also holds 100k+...also remember this is where the prices start and you are not getting a ticket for $145 to Auburn...no chance
 
If it was because of the "fan experience" then that is very weak. Been to over 25 college stadiums and there is not much different between any of them. If music, WiFi, concessions are that big of deal to drop out then good riddance. Many, including me, pay and donate to support the ATHLETE and that is where it ends. Just my opinion but I couldn't care less what is on the loud speaker during warmups and if the hot dogs are big enough

My personal beliefs have not been stated, only hinted at here, but if you goal is to change for improvements sake the people who like you as you are would not be as relevant as the people who didn't like aspects. Imo.
 
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Funny thing is when I started going to games in late 70s / early 80s the fanbase seemed old to me then. This also why they have the youth ticket games ($25 a seat). maybe you can't afford season tickets and the youth games make it a lot easier to afford getting to one or two. One of those is usually the Nebraska game (at least it was 2 years ago at home). And kids don't care level of competition they just want to go and have fun and watch the Hawks. What we are up against is the general decline in interest in football among youth. That is what will hurt at some point if that continues. As far as the students attending, they already get discounted tickets and are probably in line with what other universities do now. I never went to Iowa as a school until I was older but I went to many many football games before that.

What they are doing with club seats, etc is what everyone else is doing or wants to do. So if we fail at it in the future so will everyone else.

It goes well beyond price. That's one factor, but you have to cater to the expectations of the younger generation. The status quo, regardless of price, won't cut it.
 
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Airbhghater,

Did Barta respond?
Yes. It was a polite acknowledgement and all, but I've come to the conclusion they don't give a shit. It just pisses me off that they can't seem to stay out of their own way on some of this stuff. The red pom poms, the Roy Marble thing, the student ticket giveaway fiasco...Fvck them! It pisses me off just thinking about the lazy fat cats.
 
We dropped the season tickets in 2014. The reason was simple. We were paying out the nose for the season tickets. Didn't matter because they still bumped us in the reseating. Then started charging a seat fee for the place where we sat. And on top of that we can get the tix for 1/2 to 3/4 of the cost on the secondary market now.
 
He is 101% right...here is Alabama

Single Game Tickets
Single Game Options Price
Arkansas State $40
Texas A&M $110
Louisiana $55
Missouri $85
Mississippi State $85
Citadel $40
Auburn $140

LoL. Iowa is not Alabama, PSU, or tOSU.

Look at the price other teams charge when Iowa plays at their house, minus ISU. It’s around $70-80 at most. Iowa shouldn’t charge more than that to see PSU, tOSO, or Michigan.

Drop the price a little bit and you will see sell outs that help generate juice with potential recruits. I wonder what recruits think when they come see PSU or tOSU play at Kinnick and the stadium doesn’t sell out like last season. It’s doesnt help.
 
- Driving up prices to $95 a ticket for some games!!!

Throw in processing fees, you're over a $100 a ticket. How do you not sellout PSU and OSU? You price families out of games.
I don't know what you guys are complaining about. The athletic department heard the complaints about scheduling and have the following great OOC games setup.

2018
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Northern Iowa

2019
Miami (OH)
Iowa State
Middle Tennessee

2020
Northern Iowa
Iowa State
Northern Illinois

These schedules will continue to guarantee a bowl game for your beloved Hawkeyes which will continue to garner ridiculous costs for home games. I hope you enjoy!
 
2018
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Northern Iowa

2019
Miami (OH)
Iowa State
Middle Tennessee

2020
Northern Iowa
Iowa State
Northern Illinois

I'd put money on it that we lose at minimum 2 out of 9 of these games. Any takers?
 
I don't know what you guys are complaining about. The athletic department heard the complaints about scheduling and have the following great OOC games setup.

2018
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Northern Iowa

2019
Miami (OH)
Iowa State
Middle Tennessee

2020
Northern Iowa
Iowa State
Northern Illinois

These schedules will continue to guarantee a bowl game for your beloved Hawkeyes which will continue to garner ridiculous costs for home games. I hope you enjoy!

Why do some fans feel that UofI football owes them something. You are a fan voluntarily.
 
This fan base has earned the school millions upon millions of dollars because of our voluntary fandom solely because we travel to bowl games, second to none. This has increased our bowl placement, therefore increasing revenue. We are loyal to a fault, but support is waning for this crackerjack Athletic Dept. They really jumped the shark with Jane Meyer. New blood is needed.
 
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This fan base has earned the school millions upon millions of dollars because of our voluntary fandom solely because we travel to bowl games, second to none. This has increased our bowl placement, therefore increasing revenue. We are loyal to a fault, but support is waning for this crackerjack Athletic Dept. They really jumped the shark with Jane Meyer. New blood is needed.
Win and the fans will come. Give the alums and fans something to take pride in.
 
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What I meant:is it Barta's and Iowa's fault that these schools are in the BiG and we have the B-10 network for games.
 
My biggest concern is that the fanbase is aging. They really don't have the students engaged and they are the future of the fanbase. Go hang out at Kinnick and see what a huge percentage of the fanbase is 50 or over. They will continue to see declining attendance numbers unless they figure out how to get the younger people to the games. It starts with the students...you hook 'em there, but then you have to retain them.

The bottom line is that we're really getting solidly into the connected generation. Don't fight it, embrace it. Add technology that allows the fan to connect, get additional content, replays on their tablet or phone right there in the stadium.

I don't have answers, but I'd be looking for creative ways to mitigate lines for the bathrooms, the concessions, even to get to your seat.

People today want to remain connected. They want convenience, comfort and ease of use. Anything they can do to move in that direction is a good idea. The new North endzone is a start, but the prices are for put it in the "for the wealthy" only. Seriously, with an income well into 60 figures I don't really want to pay what it costs just to get a club seat in the endzone. I guess if you have people who can afford it, great, but most of them will be older. When they're gone, unless you've kept the younger generation engaged, your fanbase is gone.

It pains me to say this, but my daughter goes to ISU. While the game day experience is cheesy, they've found a way to engage the fans. They do a much better job of selling the school on a campus visit for prospective students and they don't let down from there.

I feel like Iowa (the whole school) has gotten fat, lazy and complacent. They seem to think their role as top dog in the state universities is a divine right. ISU is working hard and may very well assume that role.
 
My biggest concern is that the fanbase is aging. They really don't have the students engaged and they are the future of the fanbase. Go hang out at Kinnick and see what a huge percentage of the fanbase is 50 or over. They will continue to see declining attendance numbers unless they figure out how to get the younger people to the games. It starts with the students...you hook 'em there, but then you have to retain them.

The bottom line is that we're really getting solidly into the connected generation. Don't fight it, embrace it. Add technology that allows the fan to connect, get additional content, replays on their tablet or phone right there in the stadium.

I don't have answers, but I'd be looking for creative ways to mitigate lines for the bathrooms, the concessions, even to get to your seat.

People today want to remain connected. They want convenience, comfort and ease of use. Anything they can do to move in that direction is a good idea. The new North endzone is a start, but the prices are for put it in the "for the wealthy" only. Seriously, with an income well into 60 figures I don't really want to pay what it costs just to get a club seat in the endzone. I guess if you have people who can afford it, great, but most of them will be older. When they're gone, unless you've kept the younger generation engaged, your fanbase is gone.

It pains me to say this, but my daughter goes to ISU. While the game day experience is cheesy, they've found a way to engage the fans. They do a much better job of selling the school on a campus visit for prospective students and they don't let down from there.

I feel like Iowa (the whole school) has gotten fat, lazy and complacent. They seem to think their role as top dog in the state universities is a divine right. ISU is working hard and may very well assume that role.


I think this is really well thought out and thorough. One huge problem Iowa has is not having an AD with any kind of vision or strong leadership abilities. Barta seems pretty content while managing the decline of the Iowa fanbase. Conversely, ISU's AD works his butt off to do whatever it takes to increase attendence at ISU athletic events.
 
LoL. Iowa is not Alabama, PSU, or tOSU.

Look at the price other teams charge when Iowa plays at their house, minus ISU. It’s around $70-80 at most. Iowa shouldn’t charge more than that to see PSU, tOSO, or Michigan.

Drop the price a little bit and you will see sell outs that help generate juice with potential recruits. I wonder what recruits think when they come see PSU or tOSU play at Kinnick and the stadium doesn’t sell out like last season. It’s doesnt help.
Here is Wisconsin....Iowa without the donation is around $57 bucks per home game through season tickets. You also have to consider the capacity...the more you have the less per seat you have to charge.

Aug 31 (Fri) vs WESTERN KENTUCKY $57
Sept 8 vs NEW MEXICO (High School Band Day $57
Sept 15 vs BYU (Parents' Day) $65
Sept 22 at Iowa $95
Oct 6 vs NEBRASKA $100
Oct 13 at Michigan $105 & $145
Oct 20 vs. Illinois (Homecoming) $80
Oct 27 at Northwestern TBA
Nov 3 vs RUTGERS $70
Nov 10 at Penn State TBA
Nov 17 at Purdue $45
Nov 24 vs. Minnesota $80
 
I don't know what you guys are complaining about. The athletic department heard the complaints about scheduling and have the following great OOC games setup.

2018
Northern Illinois
Iowa State
Northern Iowa

2019
Miami (OH)
Iowa State
Middle Tennessee

2020
Northern Iowa
Iowa State
Northern Illinois

These schedules will continue to guarantee a bowl game for your beloved Hawkeyes which will continue to garner ridiculous costs for home games. I hope you enjoy!

It still amazes me that since Iowa went to 9 game conference schedule and with Iowa St game under contract for multiple years some still don't get the non conference schedule issue on why Iowa doesn't have another power 5 team for next few years. Issue has been talked about ad nauseum.

In a same thread people are complaining about ticket prices and revenue now maybe they'd least now understand why Iowa and 98% of Power 5 teams play 7 home games and how Iowa is handcuffed from playing another Power 5 team unless they want to play 6 home games which Barta or U of I isn't willing to do for time being.
 
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It still amazes me that since Iowa went to 9 game conference schedule and with Iowa St game under contract for multiple years some still don't get the non conference schedule issue on why Iowa doesn't have another power 5 team for next few years. Issue has been talked about ad nauseum.

In a same thread people are complaining about ticket prices and revenue now maybe they'd least now understand why Iowa and 98% of Power 5 teams play 7 home games and how Iowa is handcuffed from playing another Power 5 team unless they want to play 6 home games which Barta or U of I isn't willing to do for time being.

Iowa is not handcuffed from playing a 2nd P5 team OOC. They are handcuffed from playing a 2nd P5 team OOC at a neutral site. There is absolutely nothing preventing Iowa from scheduling another P5 team to a home and home to match up the game in IC for when the Iowa St. game is in Ames.
 
Here is Wisconsin....Iowa without the donation is around $57 bucks per home game through season tickets. You also have to consider the capacity...the more you have the less per seat you have to charge.

Aug 31 (Fri) vs WESTERN KENTUCKY $57
Sept 8 vs NEW MEXICO (High School Band Day $57
Sept 15 vs BYU (Parents' Day) $65
Sept 22 at Iowa $95
Oct 6 vs NEBRASKA $100
Oct 13 at Michigan $105 & $145
Oct 20 vs. Illinois (Homecoming) $80
Oct 27 at Northwestern TBA
Nov 3 vs RUTGERS $70
Nov 10 at Penn State TBA
Nov 17 at Purdue $45
Nov 24 vs. Minnesota $80


That is a cheaper or equivalent ticket for a team that has won 45 games the last 4 years. If your numbers are proving anything it's that this agency needs to tell the school to win more games.
 
Iowa is not handcuffed from playing a 2nd P5 team OOC. They are handcuffed from playing a 2nd P5 team OOC at a neutral site. There is absolutely nothing preventing Iowa from scheduling another P5 team to a home and home to match up the game in IC for when the Iowa St. game is in Ames.

If they do that then they will have only 6 home games which Barta and the Athletic Dept. have been adamant that they want to have 7 home games. Therefore Iowa won't do another home and home because when game is played in Ames is the year they have 5 conference games and when played in IC are the years Iowa has 4 conference games and plays all their non conference at home to get 7 home games.
 
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Iowa is not handcuffed from playing a 2nd P5 team OOC. They are handcuffed from playing a 2nd P5 team OOC at a neutral site. There is absolutely nothing preventing Iowa from scheduling another P5 team to a home and home to match up the game in IC for when the Iowa St. game is in Ames.

Small detail, not very many P5 teams will be scheduling a home and home with Iowa. Think they want to head to Kinnick for a late afternoon/night game? Not when they can schedule the same type of teams Iowa does as a home game every year. I haven't dug through the schedules to find the teams that have the same rotation like Iowa does with ISU.
 
Not really true. The Best marketing was done by the guys who played and coached in the WIN vs Ohio STate.

Now that was Selling

GO HAWKS :)

Agreed on field play might be the best marketing and
I like where you are going with thisn there is something to be said for a good product marketing itself. The jerseys, the blackout, the jump man image created using JJ's pick would be marketing. If we are going to use on field production as the best marketing we really need to up that win %.
 
It would also be worth noting who previously had tickets and their reasoning for letting them go. That would be valuable info for the admin.

That was me. I let mine go after 15 years. There was no single reason; My kids were getting to the age that they had some activities that conflicted with games, I went through a divorce and it makes things like season tickets a lot more difficult to justify buying, and finally I got sick of crap like adding Rutgers and Nebraska to the Big 10 and watering down the product. I still go to games, but I have rarely paid cost and I don't mind if I sit a couple out at home. Its not as important to me as it once was.
 
That was me. I let mine go after 15 years. There was no single reason; My kids were getting to the age that they had some activities that conflicted with games, I went through a divorce and it makes things like season tickets a lot more difficult to justify buying, and finally I got sick of crap like adding Rutgers and Nebraska to the Big 10 and watering down the product. I still go to games, but I have rarely paid cost and I don't mind if I sit a couple out at home. Its not as important to me as it once was.


You know why divorces are so expensive?

All jokes aside sounds like a rough patch, hopefully things have worked out. Yes, Nebraska sucks.
 
I would like to know how many posting in this thread pay for season tickets and donate. Easy to say and it will get some riled up...but don't bitch if you don't participate

I have 3 seats in premium section. I also buy extra singles for other games as needed. Try to go to 1 or 2 away games.
 
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If it was because of the "fan experience" then that is very weak. Been to over 25 college stadiums and there is not much different between any of them. If music, WiFi, concessions are that big of deal to drop out then good riddance. Many, including me, pay and donate to support the ATHLETE and that is where it ends. Just my opinion but I couldn't care less what is on the loud speaker during warmups and if the hot dogs are big enough

Man I agree with these statements 100%. I am there to watch the damn game. I don't want to be glued to my damn phone. It is a reprieve from that. Agree also stadium experience not much different anywhere I have been. Didn't see much different at Ohio State inside stadium back in 2013. Do we need to turn games into minor league baseball and have people run around in chicken costumes on the field during time outs?
 
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I think this is really well thought out and thorough. One huge problem Iowa has is not having an AD with any kind of vision or strong leadership abilities. Barta seems pretty content while managing the decline of the Iowa fanbase. Conversely, ISU's AD works his butt off to do whatever it takes to increase attendence at ISU athletic events.

How did he get to record ticket revenue in 2017? Barta that is.
 
It goes well beyond price. That's one factor, but you have to cater to the expectations of the younger generation. The status quo, regardless of price, won't cut it.

Or you let the youth become adults. think back to what you liked and believed was important when you were 19 and how you feel now. About once the kiddies get jobs and start paying taxes and rent or mortgages is when the thinking really changes.
 
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$95 tickets

And it worked! Until that ticket revenue really tails off and is not offset by increased tv money then I don't see an issue. He has made access to tickets in many different ways, box seats, non-premium seats, season tickets, mini-packs and single game including youth discounted tickets, discounted student tickets. As far as overpriced food inside don't eat it. Eat out on Melrose before hand or throw the grill in and cook your own, will be much better and cheaper. We take kids and we always take snacks in as they do allow it. I know some have mentioned the bathroom situation and not sure how that gets fixed in the limited space as you need more or bigger. I am an advocate for using the west side of Kinnick for additions, whether permanent structure or fence off for games and use around game days. Probably doesn't help east siders much but they are up against the hospital there.
 
Or you let the youth become adults. think back to what you liked and believed was important when you were 19 and how you feel now. About once the kiddies get jobs and start paying taxes and rent or mortgages is when the thinking really changes.

I'm not sure that's true. I developed my love for the Hawks when I was a kid. By the time I was 20 I was a dedicated fan. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't expect a lot of people who weren't fans in their 20's (and earlier, really) to suddenly become fans because they now have money when they're in their 30's or 40's.

I look at my kids (age 19-24) and they are much different than my generation (and I don't think it's just because they're young). They have expectations for entertainment that we couldn't imagine, much of it centered around their experience growing up with the internet: social media, video calls, instant media downloads etc. It takes more to engage them and they quickly get bored at games during the media timeouts. You need to engage them and the burrito lift isn't really cutting it.
 
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A couple of observations from the thread so far.


Money/cost has been a determining factor for at least a couple people.

The Admin has been willing to admit there are short comings and things could improve yet some fans are not willing to acknowledge things can and should be better.

The crowd that doesnt care about the frills cares about the on field product, one would think they would be the ones who would be most vocal about needing to upgrade areas.
 
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