Ummm... What we're not talking about

[vhsalum]

Hey ummm... guys.

Who the hell are we in on? We have two top 100 recruits coming in. One of whom is a legacy.

We have no early commits from the 2019 class. Who are we in on?

Needs:

133
149
157
174 (not sold on Young)
184

That's FIVE weight classes without an elite recruit (and you could include 141 if you were being really honest). Somebody tell me I'm wrong, but 2019 is not looking so good for us.

 

[vhsalum]

With that said... the 2019 class is completely underwhelming.

 

[LutherAce]

 

[LBlindHawk]

I think Pat Lugo is elite.

 

[vhsalum]

I think Pat Lugo is elite.

Correct, but he'll be gone in after 2020.

 

[edquinn06]

I think the staff is focusing on the 2020 class

 

[vhsalum]

Eh.... I'm HOPING for some good news to be honest. Hearing Tom's presser, I'm excited for the change in recruiting pitch, but where and with whom will this be paying off with?

 

[LutherAce]

Needs:

149 - Some guy named Lugo for 2 years
157 - Some guy named Kemerer for 2 years
174 (not sold on Young) - Some guy named Gunther, who beat Young, so you don't have to worry about Young.

 

[vhsalum]

I think the staff is focusing on the 2020 class

Fair enough. Could be a monster class.

Amos
Howard
Kennedy
Schriever
Burnett

 

[LaxHawk174]

IMO the best plan of attack is to go easy in 2019, have another class similar to this year 2018 (a blue chipper and a high upside mid tier recruit) , fill future 184 and 149. for 2021 after Wilcke and Lugo graduate. Then in 2020 go after elite blue chippers - A 133(maybe 2 with some of these guys having potential to grow into 141 after Murin): Howard/Vasquez/Bartlett/Hillegas. A 125: Schriever (Would fit perfectly as a RS FR if Lee went 4 straight with no RS). 174: Kennedy would fill in perfectly after Young graduates in 2021(you are underestimating Young IMO.) Maybe even AJ Ferrari for 184/ potential 197 after a year or two after 184. Then focus on Facundo in class of 2021 to fill 165 for Marinelli.

There won't be a lot of money coming off the books in 2019. Stoll the only graduating SR. Similar to this year with Sorensen coming off the books. And maybe Laux could be getting something. In 2020 Kemerer, Lugo, Turk, Wilcke, Gunther, Holloway all graduating who will all have at least been a starter for 1 season. Should be lots of money available for a monster 2020 class, money shouldn't be an issue that year so the work will have to be put in on all of those studs.

 

[TailgateTom]

I know there is optimism surrounding Murin. Heard "he's the real deal" and people were shocked he lost to Turk. FWIW.

 

[edquinn06]

Fair enough. Could be a monster class.

Amos
Howard
Kennedy
Schriever
Burnett

I would leave Amos off that list and add Ferrari & Vasquez

 

[vhsalum]

Needs:

149 - Some guy named Lugo for 2 years
157 - Some guy named Kemerer for 2 years
174 (not sold on Young) - Some guy named Gunther, who beat Young, so you don't have to worry about Young.

You're kidding right? I'm clearly talking about after the 2018 class. Which includes Cassioppi and Brands and.... well. That's it.

And if you believe that Gunther is a guy who is going to get us back to a title... Well, I've got this bridge.

 

[vhsalum]

I would leave Amos off that list and add Ferrari & Vasquez

Man... Ferrari as a Heavyweight is scary. LOVE the Vasquez kid.

 

[crablegs1]

Needs:

149 - Some guy named Lugo for 2 years
157 - Some guy named Kemerer for 2 years
174 (not sold on Young) - Some guy named Gunther, who beat Young, so you don't have to worry about Young.

But a guy in the 2019 class would have a 1 year redshirt and then step in for Lugo/Kem. If Iowa waits until the 2020 class for a 49 and 57 pounder, that would mean they're starting true freshman. I guess it's possible that Brands is a 157, but from what I've seen he's projected at 165.

 

[LaxHawk174]

But a guy in the 2019 class would have a 1 year redshirt and then step in for Lugo/Kem. If Iowa waits until the 2020 class for a 49 and 57 pounder, that would mean they're starting true freshman. I guess it's possible that Brands is a 157, but from what I've seen he's projected at 165.

Looks like the Hawks are projecting him as a 157/165.

 

[edquinn06]

Man... Ferrari as a Heavyweight is scary. LOVE the Vasquez kid.

I was just saying Iowa won't be looking at Amos so take him of the list. Iowa will be at Ferrari to take over for Wilcke and later Warner.

 

[CowboyUp61]

I would leave Amos off that list and add Ferrari & Vasquez

sorry ed, Ferrari is mine

 

[1stplacehawk]

133 is the only weight we missed on this year. Every other weight you listed can be recruited next year if needed. Not having a bunch of 2019 recruits committed at this point really isn't concerning.

 

[edquinn06]

sorry ed, Ferrari is mine

May very well be.

 

[bbwretler]

Hey ummm... guys.

Who the hell are we in on? We have two top 100 recruits coming in. One of whom is a legacy.

We have no early commits from the 2019 class. Who are we in on?

Needs:

133
149
157
174 (not sold on Young)
184

That's FIVE weight classes without an elite recruit (and you could include 141 if you were being really honest). Somebody tell me I'm wrong, but 2019 is not looking so good for us.

Love the way a few on here take what they hear or don’t hear as fact and then assume that Is the way it actually is. Maybe TNT should just email you and others so you know exactly who they are and are not interested in and talking to. Get your opinions so they are doing what is best...more importantly what you think needs to be done. None of you take the time to consider that our compliance department is completely different than other schools. We have ONLY 9.9 scholarships to give out and no extra income to “promise” incoming recruits. Extra income may be available via clinics and camps, however, it can not be used as an added inducement in recruiting. Some schools do it, we can not and do not. It must be that if you don’t see it on a forum or on twitter that it just can’t be taking place. I do apolojize, however, if you have actually spoken with Tom or Terry and they have told you that they are not recruiting anyone at the weights you mentioned.

 

[CowboyUp61]

May very well be.

I would project Ferrari and Kennedy from MN about the same size. Do you know about any direct competition between the two? Have been watching AJ in local tournaments for the past 6-7 years. He is a stud. Little bro pretty good too..

 

[JohnBasedow]

Hey ummm... guys.

Who the hell are we in on? We have two top 100 recruits coming in. One of whom is a legacy.

We have no early commits from the 2019 class. Who are we in on?

Needs:

133
149
157
174 (not sold on Young)
184

That's FIVE weight classes without an elite recruit (and you could include 141 if you were being really honest). Somebody tell me I'm wrong, but 2019 is not looking so good for us.

We lose 1 senior this year (maybe 2 with Downey) and then lose 1 in Stoll the year after (although it’s possible he could get a medical hardship waiver). Cass is filling HWT and Wilcke is sliding down to 184. I’m not down on Young at all, I think he will earn the spot still this year and do quite well.

133... that’s the hole as of now unless Murin can make it. There aren’t many elite recruits there in 2019. One possible one is Ryan Anderson who I have heard could be 133/141. Another one is Busiello, obviously he is committed to PSU but with the talent they brought in this year who knows if he will or not.

 

[Notsure75]

It's 2017 and posters are talking about 2020. I'm in no hurry.

 

[edquinn06]

I would project Ferrari and Kennedy from MN about the same size. Do you know about any direct competition between the two? Have been watching AJ in local tournaments for the past 6-7 years. He is a stud. Little bro pretty good too..

In college I see Kennedy at 74/84 and Ferrari 84/97. If you get them to the same school I'm sure whatever staff would figure away to get them both on the mat.

 

[edquinn06]

We lose 1 senior this year (maybe 2 with Downey) and then lose 1 in Stoll the year after (although it’s possible he could get a medical hardship waiver). Cass is filling HWT and Wilcke is sliding down to 184. I’m not down on Young at all, I think he will earn the spot still this year and do quite well.

133... that’s the hole as of now unless Murin can make it. There aren’t many elite recruits there in 2019. One possible one is Ryan Anderson who I have heard could be 133/141. Another one is Busiello, obviously he is committed to PSU but with the talent they brought in this year who knows if he will or not.

Starting to think he staff is content with Stickley, Glynn, and maybe Happel and Murin battling out for 33 in the next few years.

 

[JohnBasedow]

Starting to think he staff is content with Stickley, Glynn, and maybe Happel and Murin battling out for 33 in the next few years.

That could be, Stickley could be really good. His top game was impressive at wrestle offs.

 

[JohnBasedow]

That mullet though... looking fluffed and feathered. Watch out

 

[MVPFAN]

Stickley shows he can compete (minus the poor timing to check the clock ). I think he moved from 106 to 120 that year and obviously had a lot of physical maturing to do still as Thompson is way more muscled up.

http://www.flowrestling.org/video/8...erwood-vs-justin-stickley-graham#.WgS7-lWnG71

 

[pablow]

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And they say Tom can't recruit. Ha!

 

[just_somebody]

Stickley shows he can compete (minus the poor timing to check the clock ). I think he moved from 106 to 120 that year and obviously had a lot of physical maturing to do still as Thompson is way more muscled up.

http://www.flowrestling.org/video/8...erwood-vs-justin-stickley-graham#.WgS7-lWnG71

Is there any chance Stickley is a 133 option in the future?

 

[Pennstate1985]

Another one is Busiello, obviously he is committed to PSU but with the talent they brought in this year who knows if he will or not.

Wore an old PSU singlet for S32. May not mean anything, but looks like he's serious.

 

[ILhawk41]

I would project Ferrari and Kennedy from MN about the same size. Do you know about any direct competition between the two? Have been watching AJ in local tournaments for the past 6-7 years. He is a stud. Little bro pretty good too..

Ferrari beat Kennedy in freestyle 5-4 this summer at Fargo, think it was a quarterfinal match

 

[JohnBasedow]

Wore an old PSU singlet for S32. May not mean anything, but looks like he's serious.

Given the already current depth in his weight, I have a hard time imagining him picking PSU or them offering anything. Then again, we have thought that for awhile and they keep flocking there.

 

[edquinn06]

That could be, Stickley could be really good. His top game was impressive at wrestle offs.

Guess I would like them to figure out the Lee situation. If he is gonna go after midlands then why not have Perez man til then and let Stick RS this year and build size for 33 next year? Seems like a wasted yr for him if Lee goes and I think he will.

 

[dicemen99]

Given the already current depth in his weight, I have a hard time imagining him picking PSU or them offering anything. Then again, we have thought that for awhile and they keep flicking there.

Busiello is ahead of Manville's record pace for speculation early in his JR year. He takes a loss or two this year and he's in good shape to set the new standard.

 

[BELDEEN]

Personally, I think we look pretty good, aside from 133/184. 174 will shake IMO.

Depth Chart

 

[JohnBasedow]

Guess I would like them to figure out the Lee situation. If he is gonna go after midlands then why not have Perez man til then and let Stick RS this year and build size for 33 next year? Seems like a wasted yr for him if Lee goes and I think he will.

I fully expect them to keep the shirt on both until a decision is made.

 

[Dagboi]

Guess I would like them to figure out the Lee situation. If he is gonna go after midlands then why not have Perez man til then and let Stick RS this year and build size for 33 next year? Seems like a wasted yr for him if Lee goes and I think he will.

Stickley at 133.

 

[lookleft goright]

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That mullet though... looking fluffed and feathered. Watch out

I think they need to get some color on those walls though. It looks like a house a robot would live in. (joking spooner, I am just joking) Also, I read somewhere that he is joining the team for a hug and a handshake. Does that mean he is basically walk on? If so, that is a heck of a walk on.