Vance and Musk don't like federal judges
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Absolutely no way he doesn't pad his stats.
It shouldn’t be but we have out of control activist judges. A judge should get involved only when the President exceeds his authority like Biden did when he tried to forgive student loans. The Constitution directs the President to ensure that the agencies are following the law. By auditing the agencies to detect fraud and waste, Trump is doing his job. Musk is only an auditor (think bank examiner). His role is only to audit an agency and report his findings to the President.
Yeah, not sure what a view is exactly in this context, and who knows how many of the likes are from bots. And I suppose there is the question of how much of X is a giant echo chamber for the deranged. Neverthless, the intent is clear.
You're the first one to understand it without prejudice or bias. I was spinning my questions to see what answers I'd get. Thank you. We have to understand what is going on without MSN or X people telling us what is going on.
I’ll say it again slowly:
These agencies were created by and funded by Congress. The President and the Executive Branch cannot disband or defund something dictated by Congress. That is unconstitutional at the most primal level.
Judges who uphold the constitution are doing their constitutionally appointed responsibility. Calling them activist judges is regurgitating propaganda from the people who want to violate the constitution. Please don’t hate America.
If you hate these organizations and what they spend money on, that is fine. That’s your opinion and you are allowed to hold it. But Congress needs to disband and defund them. That’s how our government works per the constitution.
It’s really a fairly simple concept we all learned in late elementary school.
I’ll say it again slowly:
These agencies were created by and funded by Congress. The President and the Executive Branch cannot disband or defund something dictated by Congress. That is unconstitutional at the most primal level.
Judges who uphold the constitution are doing their constitutionally appointed responsibility. Calling them activist judges is regurgitating propaganda from the people who want to violate the constitution. Please don’t hate America.
If you hate these organizations and what they spend money on, that is fine. That’s your opinion and you are allowed to hold it. But Congress needs to disband and defund them. That’s how our government works per the constitution.
It’s really a fairly simple concept we all learned in late elementary school.
He can if the money allocated by Congress isn't being used the way it was intended. That's called fraud and he can declare it an emergency.
He needs to prove it with evidence and hearings. Not just claim fraud.
Nice little interview with Ryan Goodman, professor of law at NYU, diving into Vance's comments and where we're at currently regarding some of the legal battles pertaining to the executive's recent actions.
USAID was created by executive order. Congress enacted legislation recognizing USAID and funding it, but no where in the statute is there any language creating the agency as a Congressional agency. Repeating the same lie over and over does NOT make it true.
You seem stuck on this notion that because it started with an EO it is removeable by EO.
That USAID was created by executive order is moot, it's the subsequent reorganization in 98 by congress that dictates how the agency exists now.
Can the President Dissolve USAID by Executive Order?
Congress established USAID in statute, and the president may not unilaterally override a statute by executive order.
www.justsecurity.org
USAID was created by President Kennedy through Executive Order 10973, after the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 allowed him to do so. Notice that key fact. USAID was optional. Left-wing apologists claim that the Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998 (also here, not identical!) turned it into a congressionally mandated organization. A text search of both versions of the act revealed a pot full of “Agency for International Development” instances. And a curious thing failed to show up. All of those pointed to various funding and management prescriptions for USAID. Not one of them said, “We establish USAID as an agency of the State Department” or something to that effect.
When the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare was split in 1980 under President Carter, it was accomplished by the Department of Education Organization Act, which says, “There is established an executive department to be known as the Department of Education.” No such language exists anywhere regarding USAID. “
When the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare was split in 1980 under President Carter, it was accomplished by the Department of Education Organization Act, which says, “There is established an executive department to be known as the Department of Education.” No such language exists anywhere regarding USAID. “
Why don't you just share your link? I know where you're getting that from. It took two seconds on google. (originates from American thinker)
The analysis I provided clearly states what your source claims not to be able to find, here is the "something to that effect" as referenced in your text above:
@Odinorske
Various examples you can pull from congressional records that support this interpretation of language. Something like this should be quickly enough established with a bit of google sleuthing.
Example:
Subtitle D--Pipeline Security
SEC. 1631. PIPELINE SECURITY DIVISION.
(a) Establishment.--There is within the Administration a
pipeline security division to carry out pipeline security
programs in furtherance of section 114(f)(16) of title 49,
United States Code.
ahh.. American Thinker. The same ol’ right wing BS in slightly better grammar. It’s what the uneducated assume is intellectual content and glom on because it “feels right.” But it’s still poor opinion made to look factual.
It was converted to an independent agency in 1998 by an act of Congress, 22 USC 6563.
And in the last appropriation bill, Congress required it be notified and consulted for any changes to USAID.
Repeating the same “USAID can be closed by executive order” lie over and over does NOT make it true.
Anything to keep the multi tens of billions of dollars grift going.
Why would you or anyone else be okay with this? What’s in it for you to support perpetual fraud?
Rich coming form someone who is likely the largest purveyor of falsehoods on this website.
You had the last post in several threads at 2, 3, 4, and 5 am.
Get some sleep and some help.
And if there is real fraud, Congress can do what it is supposed to do, not an unelected billionaire who is not empowered to act as prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner.
Does he understand the Judiciary’s duty is to define what Presidential powers are? FDR threatened to “stack” the Court. Nixon initially refused to obey Court orders….until Republicans in Congress told him he was going to be successfully impeached..Trump is likewise challenging the Courts to define his limits of power. FDR and Nixon finally acquiesced. What will Trump do if ruled against?
The billions of dollars of grift by billionaires.
At least get it right.
He will declare himself supreme ruler.
He has zero respect for the constitution. He’s so far gone with megalomania, that he won’t stop until he makes the world declare him Emperor.
Congress is committing the fraud. How is that not blatantly clear to you by now?
You are too smart to claim ignorance.
Yes, the 80+ billionaires who supported Kamala Harris to keep their grifts going.
“Congress is committing the fraud.”
Good grief.
Early leader in the clubhouse for worst post of the year.
Corrupt Filthy DON and Musky are not loved by any Federal judges who will Not follow the law. The time is getting close for those judges to send in the marshals.
Trump can write an order making him king. No activist judge has authority over the king
“But as I traced the influence of these NGOs, a pattern emerged: they are controlled by establishment politicians”
Unaccountable NGOs pilfering public money to facilitate their messiah complex ambitions, while making themselves into decamillionaires on public servant salary.
Nothing to see there!
Nothing to see there!
If “datarepublican” says so, it must be true.
It is a pretty chart though and you have no idea what it means. It tells as much as this:
Odds “datarepublican” gets bucks from Russia?
Are you saying these organizations don’t exist? Or that they don’t get money from USAID / the State department? Or that establishment politicians don’t serve in them?
What are you saying?
The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) is a quasi-autonomous non-governmental organization in the United States founded in 1983 with the stated aim of advancing democracy worldwide,[2][3][4] by promoting political and economic institutions, such as political groups, business groups, trade unions, and free markets.[5]
National Endowment for Democracy - Wikipedia
Trump should just request an audit from the Secretary of the Treasury. When that's complete it could be provided to Trump sans the confidential information that was the basis for the judge's TRO. I don't think any court could stop a president from seeing an audit of the spending of a department within the executive branch.
