Heck no, why is that needed...........$$$...this is like
taking money from........
Vegas lines for Iowa Football
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Heck no, why is that needed...........$$$...this is like
taking money from........
The evolution in ISU fan logic is weird to me. Last year, most would say that the Cy-Hawk result would be based on which team’s style of play would the game be played at. Iowa’s smash mouth style was the the theme and, eventually, Iowa was the better team at their style. Now the logic is that ISU will beat Iowa at their own game. A Wisconsin fan could get away with that because they have been better at being Iowa than Iowa (hence the dominance). ISU? Gotta prove it or it’s just white noise.
He is compared to Stanley. And he thinks he is the toughest guy on the field. That will catch up with him.
Says who? Im almost 100% certain you hold this opinion because he talked trash to Iowa when scoring a TD.
With a top 10 front 7 and all world corner, how did ISU possibly end up ranked in the 30s defensively while Iowa was top 10? ISU allowed over half a yard more per play than Iowa last year. Iowa also has more 4 star depth.
I like PFF a lot but it also is one tool that doesn't tell the whole story. For example, it rated Ojemudia as top 5 corner in the Big 10 for fewest receptions allowed per snap. Great, but every Iowa fan knows that Hankins is the better of the two.
5'9" Duke Shelly from KSU got drafted in the 6th while Peavy went undrafted. It's not simply height.
What is the average yard per play in the BIG compared to the Big 12? Comparing yard per play is such a ridiculous metric. Comparing apples and oranges. Big 12 is wide open run and gun prolific quarterbacks while BIG is historically ground and pound elite in the trenches.
Iowa State averaged 5.8 yards per play last year on offense compared to 5.2 for Iowa.
He's not an option QB like Scott Frost or Tommie Frazier. He runs out of bounds all the time.
Nebraska runs an Spread Offense with lots of RPOs, most of the time when Martinez is running, he is running because that is the open part of the field.
You would think with wide open offenses then ISU would have more opportunity for sacks and Ints but trailed Iowa in both.
INTS
IOWA- 20 ISU- 8
SACKS
IOWA- 35 ISU-33
Again, youd think Iowa would be the near touchdown favorite? Someone should alert Vegas. What gives?
Preseason, Vegas looks at last year's results and returning experience. The lines will shift between now and the game.
They can't evaluate how good newcomers like Nixon, Vanvalkenburg, DJ Johnson will be.
Since you like PFF then why do they have Iowa at #10 and ISU #21?
Or Massey which has Iowa at #13 and a 4 point favorite @ #32 ISU.
The advanced stats firms favor Iowa.
I'll take Vegas all day every single day.
Also, you are the recruiting guru, Nixon, Vanvalkenburg, and DJ Johnson were all 3 star recruits, correct? They are all expected to fill positions of need.
Jirehl Brock, Breece Hall and Joseph Scates were all legit 4 star recruits. They are also expected to fill positions of need.
Clearly Vegas knows more about both rosters than you.
I don't think you want to start comparing 4 stars on each roster. It's about a 3:1 ratio.
And DJ Johnson was a 247 4 star.
Vanvalkenburg was a grad transfer and Nixon was a juco transfer with an Alabama offer.
Lol PLEASE list all these stud 4 star recruits on Iowa roster other than AJE who was a legacy recruit. Please get going I am waiting. List them all for me. I count three 4 stars and one 5 star (AJE).
DJ Johnson 247 profile (1, 2, THREE stars).
https://247sports.com/player/donald-johnson-93336/
Ohhh Vanvalkenburg was a grad transfer huh? La'Michael Pettway was as well probably more highly regarded also.
You always bragging the Bama offer for Nixon. Brock Purdy and Joseph Scates both had Bama offers you act like if you get a Bama offer youre an automatic 1st round draft pick. Get over it.
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Typical Iowa State crap. Get it done on the field, then brag. Otherwise, go brag to your friends on CF. They might actually believe you!
Do you think that Purdy and Scates are not valued more as recruits because of their supposed offer from Alabama? That is what you appear to be arguing.
CP84 alludes to Nixons offer from Bama again and again as though it is some kind of trump card that no other recruit can match. I just said Scates was more highly regarded and also had a Bama offer.
I lived in Las Vegas for 23 years. I assure you I have a very good understanding of the various aspects of sports gambling.
It is no different than what Clones fans like you do. For God's sake, give credit where credit is due.
You can get a good look at a t bone by sticking your head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
Are you not aware there is a difference between the 247 composite which includes Rivals and 247s own grades?
DJ Johnson was a 4 star by 247 and a 3 star by Rivals. That's why the composite is 3 stars.
Click on this link and look right below the composite. 90 rated, 4 star, #26 overall corner by 247.
https://247sports.com/Player/Donald-Johnson-93336/high-school-178630/
247 4 stars from the last three classes.
Jestin Jacobs
Tyler Linderbaum
Ezra Miller
Tyler Endres
Logan Lee
Jeff Jenkins
Jack Campbell
DJ Johnson
AJ Epenesa
Tristan Wirfs
Mark Kallenberger
Djimon Colbert
Oliver Martin (transfer)
Additional that received Rivals 4 stars.
Spencer Petras
John Waggoner
Dallas Craddieth
Julius Brents
Now how many for ISU?
Four total LOL
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Your offense and defense line blows. A nice person would say good luck, but your a husker. So just leave.
Iowa state had the RB who would shed 3 tackles for positive yards. He gone.
LMAO. Hawk fans use whatever rating service makes their players look best. For basketball its ESPN. For football apparently it is JUST 247 never mind the composite that is widely considered the primary source. With all those stud 4 stars why on Earth is Iowa nearly touchdown dogs to Iowa State? Still haven't answered the question...waiting...
Two 4 star RBs to replace him.
TJ Hockensen and Noah Fant aren't wearing black and gold this year last I checked.
Man, that Michigan line... I'd be tempted to be the under there.
We're kinda owed one against them though, right? They smoked us the last time in Ann Arbor in 2012 when we fielded that horrible 4-8 team (a.k.a. the "JV" James Vandenberg team). But we haven't lost to them since 2006 with the exception of 2012.
We're kinda owed one against them though, right? They smoked us the last time in Ann Arbor in 2012 when we fielded that horrible 4-8 team (a.k.a. the "JV" James Vandenberg team). But we haven't lost to them since 2006 with the exception of 2012.
I’m not sold on them either. I could see them being a 6-6 team even with their incredibly weak schedule.
Iowa should be a -4.5. But you’re on the right track.
Your receivers and TEs are a joke and your QBs one bag of doritos away from not being able to fit in his jersey . Might give that 65 yards passing @Wisconsin a couple of years ago a run for its money this year.
You almost lost to Drake and Purdy got benched. Enough said.
Alright dude. I wasn't going to say anything, but Stanley is an absolute monster in the weight room. He's set a few records even. Since you're on this board so much, there's a thread about lifting that you can check out.
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