You have to take into account the kind of people that come to other teams boards in the off season to argue about recruiting.
VOTE: DJ Carton will Commit to which of these 6 schools? 49% So Far Say He's Headed to IOWA
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https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Board/102410/Contents/Josh-Carton-CB-118286934
They’ve posted severally updates on him within the last month, but this is the most recent I can find.
It’s premium content, so you’ll have to sign up to read. I think that’s partially the problem with this forum. It’s free and the fact that you’re posting on your free homeboard forum suggests that youre too cheap to pay for a premium membership and thus aren’t up to date on recruiting news
And to be clear: I’m not saying he ends up at Michigan. It’s just extremely homerish to bury your head in the sand and ignore every analyst saying that you don’t lead simply because you don’t want to believe it
Are they “all” saying this at the national analyst cocktail parties you guys go to?
Is that why no one can provide a link? Surely you know how in view the fact that you graduated from universities that are academically superior to Iowa.
P.S. someone writing premium content for the Michigan Insider is not a “national analyst” let alone “all national analysts”). It’s a homer writing homer content that homers pay to read.
Christ...
The “national analysts” (lolz) at 247 are still giving crystal balls to Wisconsin which he crossed off his list weeeks ago, btw.
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Why are you on the free board with those of us too ‘cheap’ to pay for premium content? It seems like it’s beneath you yet here you are.
Oh this is too good. First of all, I don’t pay for a membership (or post on other teams’ boards) because I don’t care enough about the decisions made by high schoolers I’ve never met to let it make or ruin my day. If that’s your thing then good for you.
Secondly, I voted for Michigan in the poll, even before learning that they were the leaders, followed by IU and Ohio State (in that order - lol)... but just not naive enough to believe everything the “experts” tell me, and am able to see why Iowa is a factor in the recruitment
Yet you’re here arguing with me back and forth about who leads for a highschooler.
We’ll see how it all plays out in the end. I don’t have anything against Iowa and would prefer he goes there if not Michigan. I just think the vast majority of you are being homers saying that Iowa currently leads when none of the supposed insiders are saying the same (are your mods even saying that you currently lead?)
I don’t care who leads for Carton and have said I think Michigan gets him.
My issue is with fans of other teams posting unsubstantiated drivel on Iowa’s message board and then telling us to do our own research when pressed on it
Can somebody notify the Indiana board their special needs kid is ready for pickup.
Since no one here wants to click links...
D.J. Carton
recently cut his list to six finalists: Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan, Xavier, Iowa and Marquette. The Hoosiers look to be in a great spot for Carton along with the Buckeyes and Wolverines. Carton has focused his attention on the USA Basketball Training Camp at the end of the month but much of the talk continues to surround the Hoosiers with the top-30 guard.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...y-indiana-iowa-state-north-carolina-tennessee
D.J. Carton
recently cut his list to six finalists: Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan, Xavier, Iowa and Marquette. The Hoosiers look to be in a great spot for Carton along with the Buckeyes and Wolverines. Carton has focused his attention on the USA Basketball Training Camp at the end of the month but much of the talk continues to surround the Hoosiers with the top-30 guard.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals...y-indiana-iowa-state-north-carolina-tennessee
DJ is the missing link- if we get him it will be the most talented team Iowa has had since the 80's. Jo W is legit, Pat Mc is legit, Garza was impressive, Nunge is a terrific stretch 4, Connor is a solid PG who can play with DJ, doubt Cook will be here in 2 year (will play next year and then NBA) CJ Fred is under rated
I’m failing to see where Carton said this himself and cut his list to those 3 instead of 6. This is pure conjecture from the analyst unless he provides evidence otherwise.
Okay so you don't believe it, but he did provide proof. What are your mods saying?
Because he said so? Is there a quote from Carton somewhere or like I said just conjecture.
I'll agree that there's no proof it's not conjecture, but given the authors connections and occupation I definitely don't feel good about it for Iowa. The same article suggests that Terry is a Standford lean
1. No one knows where DJ is going. Until someone can provide an actual quote or credible source in which DJ is quoted as saying something to the effect of I'm leaning towards this or that school right now, every so-called expert is just spitballing based on what they believe is "conventional wisdom." Last year at this time many were saying DJ was Wisconsin bound. Yep, every one posting on a free anonymous message board is an expert and an "insider," until of course they're not.
2. Indiana fans are still as cocky as they are delusional. We've been hearing for years, even during the Crean era, about their phenomenal recruiting classes, that Bloomington is still the Mecca of college basketball, and that every kid in the country is dying to suit up for them because they are Final Four bound. Indiana fans and their insatiable love affair with themselves and their rich basketball history (they seem just as stuck in the 20th Century as many Nebraska football fans) is about the only thing on this thread that can be stated or anticipated with any degree of certainty.
3. I, among many Iowa fans, would not be surprised in the least if DJ chose a different school than Iowa. What is simply being said by most Iowa fans on this thread, those of whom are not incurable cynics, is that there are plenty of factors in DJ's recruitment that would lend themselves to a reasonable belief that Iowa is in a great position to land him that is different than i.e. the Tyler Ullis situation. That belief is not based on some dubious delusion (which no Iowa fan on here has expressed) that Iowa as a program is currently on the same level as other programs involved in DJ's recruitment. This should be obvious to everyone, including our so-called "guests," who posses at least an average IQ and 8th grade level reading comprehension. As it is now, there seems to be little point to the inane drivel being tossed off on this thread by our "guests" beyond an apparent need for validation and a self-esteem boost.
2. Indiana fans are still as cocky as they are delusional. We've been hearing for years, even during the Crean era, about their phenomenal recruiting classes, that Bloomington is still the Mecca of college basketball, and that every kid in the country is dying to suit up for them because they are Final Four bound. Indiana fans and their insatiable love affair with themselves and their rich basketball history (they seem just as stuck in the 20th Century as many Nebraska football fans) is about the only thing on this thread that can be stated or anticipated with any degree of certainty.
3. I, among many Iowa fans, would not be surprised in the least if DJ chose a different school than Iowa. What is simply being said by most Iowa fans on this thread, those of whom are not incurable cynics, is that there are plenty of factors in DJ's recruitment that would lend themselves to a reasonable belief that Iowa is in a great position to land him that is different than i.e. the Tyler Ullis situation. That belief is not based on some dubious delusion (which no Iowa fan on here has expressed) that Iowa as a program is currently on the same level as other programs involved in DJ's recruitment. This should be obvious to everyone, including our so-called "guests," who posses at least an average IQ and 8th grade level reading comprehension. As it is now, there seems to be little point to the inane drivel being tossed off on this thread by our "guests" beyond an apparent need for validation and a self-esteem boost.
Evans provides no evidence and even basically admits that his reasoning for IU being where it is is “much of the talk.” I’m starting to side with the earlier poster who made the “echo chamber” comment regarding the “experts”
And being in a “great spot” is a significant difference from Michigan, IU, and Ohio State (in that order). Still waiting for that link from SIhoosier
That was Corey Evan's quote saying the Hoosiers, Michigan, and Ohio State are in good shape in his recruitment. (never mentioned Iowa)I personally think he goes to Michigan but you never know. The crystal ball also has all of the recent picks going to Michigan as well.
My point is outside of home state school what makes you all feel so good about landing him? Fran hasn't landed anyone like him in the past. I'm not saying he won't go to Iowa but there is no reason to believe they are the leader without some blatant homerism. Are your mods predicting him to Iowa?
Lol. You gotta be fuggin kiddin me.
Yep, that one sentence by one author is irrefutable proof DJ has eliminated Iowa and is Indiana bound.
Thank you for doing your part to validate point 2 in my previous post.
Oh, and kindly GTFO.
Have you read any of the posts by Iowa fans on here?
Most think he will either end up at Michigan or Iowa. The reasons why he COULD end up at Iowa have clearly been stated.
This is an Iowa message board so naturally there will be some homer posts. That should be pretty obvious. If you were actually expecting to find a plethora of posts on here validating that Indiana is in the lead for Carton because some Rivals author wrote one nebulous sentence that Indiana is one of three schools "in great shape" for his services, then, I'm sorry to say, but you are as arrogant as you are stupid.
Based on what? Evans doesn't say "based on conversations I've personally had with people in Carton's circle." He could just be repeating the same thing that other analysts have been saying since DJ released his top 6. Frankly, even if it's accurate, it doesn't matter. It's like who leads at halftime - game's not over yet. Let's see what happens once he starts visiting schools.
We "Iowa homers" have been following DJ's recruitment for a long time. We've paid attention to what he's said in interviews about things that will influence his decision. Iowa fits a lot of those things, including the quality of his relationship with the coaching staff and with current/future players.
Not proof of anything.
It's not even explicit in said opinion that the author is inferring those 3 are in some sort of leading position.
At best it could possibly be take that way.
Joe Weiskamp is a top 50 player from Iowa, so that's a player very much like DJ.
Yep, take your dollies out of the sandbox and go home.
Lol. Relax, dude. It's an anonymous message board.
Still, c'mon, you really think he's going to pick Indiana? Not likely. Smart money is on Michigan or Iowa.
He has a much better chance of picking IU than Iowa. When is the last time Iowa even won a conference title?
Edit: 1979 good lawd.
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Lot of talk from a program with no recent basketball history. 2 conference titles in 5 years and 3 sweet 16s and it still wasn't good enough for IU. What does that say about Iowa?
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Totally agree, if we could get him this year and Foster next year, Iowa would have an unbelievable amount of talent from in-state.
Hoping D.J. becomes a Hawk, but OSU has his attention.
You want people to stop quoting you yet keep posting outrageously dumb sh*t...
Some fans care about that stuff. Recruits just want to 1) play; 2) win; 3) have a little fun; and 4) get drafted.
Iowa can offer all of that plus a 45 minute drive for his family. If he likes Fran, I really can’t see him going anywhere else. Wouldn’t make sense.
We’ll find out soon enough. Losing him to another B1G program and having to face him for several years would be bad indeed.
Why the fuk do you care what annonymous Iowa fans opinions are regarding the program preferences of a highschool kid?
Seriously why the fuk are you doing this?
It doesn't matter at all.
"Homerism" is rampant across all the boards. I still think the Hawks have a good shot at him.
He clearly needs validation. And is obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I made a point about IU fans being arrogant and delusional, and he unwittingly provided tangible proof.
