VOTE: Is Kirk Ferentz a Hall of Famer? Assume he gets to a 60.00 Win% & stays there (currently at 59.89%). IF he finishes 2024 at 2-0 he's at 60.11%
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Not a Hawk fan, but have always respected Ferentz. Coaching for 20-plus years at one place is nearly unheard of anymore. He'd get my vote for HOF.
Update after Iowa's 35-0 loss to Tennessee in the Jan 1, 2024 Citrus Bowl:
One of the stipulations for the College Football Hall of Fame is you have to have won 60% of your games.
Assuming Kirk gets to 60% (which he currently is just below) and stays there, what say you?
Kirk's current record:
...12-21 (36.4%):.............3 years at Maine (1990-92)
196-119 (62.2%):......25 years at Iowa (1999-present)
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208-140 (59.77%) Overall Record
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If Iowa wins its first 2 games of the 2024 season, Kirk is back at exactly 60% (210-140).
Then over the next 11 games (10 reg season + 1 bowl game), Iowa would need to go AT LEAST 7-4, which would put Kirk at 60.11% (217-144).
When Kirk hit win #200 he became the 24th Division I coach to reach that milestone.
One of the stipulations for the College Football Hall of Fame is you have to have won 60% of your games.
Assuming Kirk gets to 60% (which he currently is just below) and stays there, what say you?
Kirk's current record:
...12-21 (36.4%):.............3 years at Maine (1990-92)
196-119 (62.2%):......25 years at Iowa (1999-present)
......................................................
208-140 (59.77%) Overall Record
========================
If Iowa wins its first 2 games of the 2024 season, Kirk is back at exactly 60% (210-140).
Then over the next 11 games (10 reg season + 1 bowl game), Iowa would need to go AT LEAST 7-4, which would put Kirk at 60.11% (217-144).
When Kirk hit win #200 he became the 24th Division I coach to reach that milestone.
Totally agree ! Kirk is absolutely deserving of the Hall of Fame .
They've won two.
Maybe this year when they beat UCLA we can call it a "rose bowl win".
Iowa as a state is so slightly above average. Scenery, economics and so on. KF in a way fits Iowa very well. Not thinking good enough for the rest of the nation aside from likely being very slightly below 60 percent.
The rest of the country will look at what he did to make a difference in the world to put him over. What he will be known for is tough D, nepotism and the racism issue won't go away.
If he stays a few more years, hits 60 percent and makes a playoff run...and not more scandals, then yes.
with current recruiting, after this year going forward he doesn't make 60 percent. The recruiting numbers don't lie.
Stay clean from things that look bad, get into the playoffs this year, get to 60 percent. Overwise do not pass Go and collect $200.
The rest of the country will look at what he did to make a difference in the world to put him over. What he will be known for is tough D, nepotism and the racism issue won't go away.
If he stays a few more years, hits 60 percent and makes a playoff run...and not more scandals, then yes.
with current recruiting, after this year going forward he doesn't make 60 percent. The recruiting numbers don't lie.
Stay clean from things that look bad, get into the playoffs this year, get to 60 percent. Overwise do not pass Go and collect $200.
Off-season is almost over for Nebraska, huh.
Trying to cushion your upcoming disappointment by hacking on Iowa?
I've seriously considered going out to Pasadena this year just so I can hopefully say I saw the Hawks win a game inside the Rose Bowl before I died!They've won two.
Maybe this year when they beat UCLA we can call it a "rose bowl win".
From what I've heard, KF plans to coach out his contract, which goes thru the 2029 season. That's another 6 seasons. Given his current coaching record, he'd need to go an avg of 8-5 over his final 6 seasons and he'd be right at .600 winning %, which would get him in. At that point, he'd have 256 wins.
Nice deflection from reality. You should leave Iowa once in a while. I'm likely a bigger Hawk fan than you but doesn't mean I have to like all things KF.
Interesting. Didn’t know that was a criterium. I suspect many currently in the HOF wouldn’t be there if it was.
However, I suspect most of the young men who played football for Kirk would testify he made a difference in their lives and they are better men for it today. You can’t please everyone, but I would think those that say otherwise would be in the minority.
In the end you may be right. However, they won't necessarily be voting and our current culture is not the same as it used to be. We shall see.. I do think he needs to do something big to get in .
I disagree.
You're either getting in because you absolutely killed it for a relatively short period of time (i.e. Urban Meyer) or you had consistent, sustained success over a very long period of time (i.e. Ferentz). I think both are equally as deserving.
You might be right, but I think Iowa fans don't appreciate the negative publicity around Iowa unless you are MN, NE, or IL per KF and what Iowa has accomplished. Notable...yes. HOF? Maybe not.
as a minimum. It doesn't say that is the bar.
Lack of Big outright championships. Take away cupcakes, is about 500 against peers. Would have been released at a number of places several times.
Look, not saying he's bad. We are talking HOF. Marginal at best. Might make it. A playoff run would solidify. A number of teams have been close but grossly lacking. Such as a really bad QB. Really bad RB. Really bad receivers. Really bad punters. Those weaknesses (not all in one year) were laughable to the outside of HN crowd. HOF coaches programs don't get consistently laughed at and in past 10 years, the better teams all have an * to their performance. Think weak schedule.
He just aint there yet. Close
I’m not sure, however I know that he needs to “make hay” while he can. Adding Oregon, Washington, UCLA, and USC doesn’t make it easier for him plus not having the Big Ten west to play anymore.
Also, from what reports are at kids day the offense still isn’t clicking but there’s a common denominator there that seems to be the elephant in the room.
Also, from what reports are at kids day the offense still isn’t clicking but there’s a common denominator there that seems to be the elephant in the room.
We will agree to disagree. He gets to 60% and in my opinion he is in. Winning at that rate and in the B1G will do it. Much the same way the voters won’t look at who he is as a person and what he has done for his players they won’t micro analyze the results like posters on the Hawkeye boards will.
And Evashevski is already in the hall of fame. I'd just like to see a legit rose bowl win in my lifetime.They've won two.
Maybe this year when they beat UCLA we can call it a "rose bowl win".
Exactly.
That era is over.
Winning a Rose Bowl now means nothing unless it's the championship game.
I voted yes but you are right, his stubbornly ultra conservative offensive philosophy and insistence on retaining underperforming OCs is what will cost him a place in the CFHOF.
Kirk's last 23 years have been pretty good.
.....4-19.... (17.4%):........Kirk's first 2 years at IOWA
192-100 (65.8%):.......Kirk's last 23 years at IOWA
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196-119 (62.2%):.......Overall Record at IOWA
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.....4-19.... (17.4%):........Kirk's first 2 years at IOWA
192-100 (65.8%):.......Kirk's last 23 years at IOWA
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196-119 (62.2%):.......Overall Record at IOWA
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Living in New Jersey.. from here Kirk is a Hall a Famer. Iowa is not the easiest job in the world . Not a great recruiting base
Has beaten some of the big boys, Ohio St. and Penn St. come to mind. Did win the West a few times. His style of play,
Run, Shorten the game , Big " D" Kicking game has been very effective., although not the most pleasant to watch.
Did win 10 games with no "O". Hawks will win 10 games this year. Highly respected among coaches. When you beat Iowa
it was due to a lack of talent. Kirks teams always come to play. Boring yes, Meat and mash yes, but effective.
Go HAWKS!!!
Has beaten some of the big boys, Ohio St. and Penn St. come to mind. Did win the West a few times. His style of play,
Run, Shorten the game , Big " D" Kicking game has been very effective., although not the most pleasant to watch.
Did win 10 games with no "O". Hawks will win 10 games this year. Highly respected among coaches. When you beat Iowa
it was due to a lack of talent. Kirks teams always come to play. Boring yes, Meat and mash yes, but effective.
Go HAWKS!!!
Couple of more thoughts, Kirk inherited a tough situation from coach Frey, also has to share some players
with Iowa St. Also look at his Iowa St. record and his Minn. record, Illinois record, Nebraska record. Wisconsin is the one
team he has not done well with. Coach you are a Hall of Famer. Go Hawks!!!
with Iowa St. Also look at his Iowa St. record and his Minn. record, Illinois record, Nebraska record. Wisconsin is the one
team he has not done well with. Coach you are a Hall of Famer. Go Hawks!!!
As you can see below, Kirk gets credited with today's win.
Update after Iowa's 40-0 win vs Illinois State:
One of the stipulations for the College Football Hall of Fame is you have to have won 60% of your games.
Assuming Kirk gets to 60% (which he currently is just below) and stays there, what say you?
Kirk's current record:
...12-21 (36.4%):.............3 years at Maine (1990-92)
197-119 (62.3%):......25 plus years at Iowa (1999-present)
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209-140 (59.89%) Overall Record
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If Iowa wins its next game vs Iowa State, Kirk is back at exactly 60% (210-140).
Then over the next 11 games (10 reg season + 1 bowl game), Iowa would need to go AT LEAST 7-4, which would put Kirk at 60.11% (217-144).
When Kirk hit win #200 he became the 24th Division I coach to reach that milestone.
Update after Iowa's 40-0 win vs Illinois State:
One of the stipulations for the College Football Hall of Fame is you have to have won 60% of your games.
Assuming Kirk gets to 60% (which he currently is just below) and stays there, what say you?
Kirk's current record:
...12-21 (36.4%):.............3 years at Maine (1990-92)
197-119 (62.3%):......25 plus years at Iowa (1999-present)
......................................................
209-140 (59.89%) Overall Record
========================
If Iowa wins its next game vs Iowa State, Kirk is back at exactly 60% (210-140).
Then over the next 11 games (10 reg season + 1 bowl game), Iowa would need to go AT LEAST 7-4, which would put Kirk at 60.11% (217-144).
When Kirk hit win #200 he became the 24th Division I coach to reach that milestone.
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Update after Iowa's 32-20 loss on Oct 19, 2024 at Michigan State:
You can change your vote, if needed.
As we have been discussing in this thread since September 2023, one of the stipulations for the College Football Hall of Fame is you have to have won 60% of your games.
Assuming Kirk gets to 60% (which he currently is just below) and stays there, what say you?
Kirk has been the head coach in 355 games. He's won 59.72% of those games.
By season's end Kirk will be up to 361 games (5 reg season games + 1 bowl game are left).
To get to 60.00% by the end of the 2024 season, Kirk will have to finish at 5-1 to get to 217-144 (60.11%).
Kirk's current record:
.......12-21 (36.4%):.............3 years at Maine............(1990-92)
200-122 (62.1%):.........25 plus years at Iowa (1999-present)
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212-143 (59.72%) Overall Record
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When Kirk hit win #200 he became the 24th Division I coach to reach that milestone.
You can change your vote, if needed.
As we have been discussing in this thread since September 2023, one of the stipulations for the College Football Hall of Fame is you have to have won 60% of your games.
Assuming Kirk gets to 60% (which he currently is just below) and stays there, what say you?
Kirk has been the head coach in 355 games. He's won 59.72% of those games.
By season's end Kirk will be up to 361 games (5 reg season games + 1 bowl game are left).
To get to 60.00% by the end of the 2024 season, Kirk will have to finish at 5-1 to get to 217-144 (60.11%).
Kirk's current record:
.......12-21 (36.4%):.............3 years at Maine............(1990-92)
200-122 (62.1%):.........25 plus years at Iowa (1999-present)
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212-143 (59.72%) Overall Record
========================
When Kirk hit win #200 he became the 24th Division I coach to reach that milestone.
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This is where things stood at 3:30 pm CT today.
81.0% said Kirk was a Hall of Famer.
81.0% said Kirk was a Hall of Famer.
Vote: Is Kirk Ferentz a Hall of Famer?
I am an Iowa fan. YES!
Votes: 254.....78.2%I am not an Iowa fan. YES!
Votes: 9.............2.8%I am an Iowa fan. NO!
Votes: 58..........17.8%I am not an Iowa fan. NO!
Votes: 4...............1.2%
- Total voters: 325
Go 5-0 and do it at home during the regular season on senior day.
Iowa's (4-3) Remaining Schedule:
- vs. Northwestern, October 26, 2024
- vs. Wisconsin, November 2, 2024
- at UCLA, November 8, 2024
- at Maryland, November 23, 2024
- vs. Nebraska, November 29, 2024
Take away KF's first 2 years as he was building up the program and he's 196-103 at Iowa which is 66%. Coupled with 2 conference titles, 3 division titles, a BCS bowl win, 5 Top 10 finishes, 4 conference coach of the year awards, and 2 National Coach of the Year awards. Love him or hate him, I'd say he deserves it.
Who is Coach Frey?
He inherited a thin roster, but a strong program and brand.
How do you "share" players with Iowa St?
He's 14-11 against ISU, not exactly dominance
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