Nothing ever happens under Ferentz that common sense would dictate.
Wadley Decline
- Thread starter Nihilist Rodgers
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What's this poor play calling you speak of?
I guess it's poor play calling if you don't average 6 ypc and 40 points a game as a team. LOL
In Iowa's game plan, putting Wadley on the field makes the defense have to defend him, account for him, improving the rest of Iowa's match-ups. Plain and simple, everyone on the offense is better off when he is in the game, whether he gets the ball or not, whether he runs for 100 plus yards or not.
Wadley is doing fine, he will do better as Stanley, the O-Line and the receivers get better, mature.
Wadley is doing fine, he will do better as Stanley, the O-Line and the receivers get better, mature.
It’s the dead running plays of 0 or negative yardage into the teeth of stacked fronts, up the gut with a non power back, out of power running formations where the entire defense knows it’s a run.
When they happen, they put us behind the chains on drives, and then force us into surefire pass plays which then allows the D to scheme for the pass. In other words we are making the Defenses job easier than it needs to be.
Wadley alone, had 9 runs of 0 or negative yards against Iowa State, 7 against PSU and 7 against MSU, the top three D’s we have faced.
23 runs of no gain or negative yards is a lot in three games. And again, that is just Wadley, I didn’t have the stats on the other three backs. Cut that in half and O will be a lot more efficient.
Been saying that ages!!! Split Mr.Akrum wide or waay wide.Decoy ect.A dangerous runner ect.And good interview.He likes the mic. Don Pattterson said the word DECOY.Well Pray for Surf no?
When they added SR Butler another 1000+ yard rusher who also had over 375 yards receiving the coaches could do just what you are saying, Bulter is done for the season and now SO 1st year starter Stanley as these around him
RSFR RB Young
FR RB Kelly-Martin
SO TE Fant
RSFR TE Hochenson
FR WR Smith-Marsette
FR WR Brandon Smith
JR 1st year player and starter JUCO Transfer WR Easley
and now has these for tackles in place of RSSR's
LT RSFR Jackson
RT FR Wirfs
yeah I can understand why poster are upset with all the mistakes and the offense is not gaining 500+ every game and is not avg'ing 45+ ppg
No its the way.Stoneage mentality of CAP.No gd kok or next CAP.Plans drawn up at Fred and Barney kitchen table no? Gp is set in -STONE YES! Go hawk players and help! Pray for surf. Wilma and Betty cute.No pics.Try utube.BIG game sat.All the marbles no?When they added SR Butler another 1000+ yard rusher who also had over 375 yards receiving the coaches could do just what you are saying, Bulter is done for the season and now SO 1st year starter Stanley as these around him
RSFR RB Young
FR RB Kelly-Martin
SO TE Fant
RSFR TE Hochenson
FR WR Smith-Marsette
FR WR Brandon Smith
JR 1st year player and starter JUCO Transfer WR Easley
and now has these for tackles in place of RSSR's
LT RSFR Jackson
RT FR Wirfs
yeah I can understand why poster are upset with all the mistakes and the offense is not gaining 500+ every game and is not avg'ing 45+ ppg
As much as it is human nature to attempt to essentialize everything ... there are a plethora of factors that have impacted our running game.
Consequently, I'm not going to "blame" Wadley for our offensive struggles. I'm not going to "blame" Brian for the struggles. I'm not going to "blame" the OL .... etc.
Rather, what we need to understand is that everybody is working hard to improve. Everybody, from the players to the coaches ... needs to improve. They need to work to improve. However, as a fan, I understand and trust that that is exactly what they're trying to do. How fast will they be able to improve? Hopefully pretty fast ... but who knows?
- Our OL has been juggled. We do have a lot of youth now on the edges. Previously, we've had guys playing at their sub-optimal positions. Regardless, some of our offensive struggles have definitely been attributable to OL play.
- Between the length of Stanley's leash and his inexperience, I don't think that the O always gets audibled to the right play. There is also the issue of effectively communicating such audibles to the rest of the O.
- As Brian has admitted himself, sometimes the game-plan entering the game is a bit off ... so the O suffers until they figure out how the D is defending them and they adjust accordingly.
- When Wadley runs ... he always has choices as to where he can go with the ball. I honestly believe that sometimes he's been doing the RB equivalent to pressing ... he's sometimes trying too hard to make everything into a big play. Sometimes the best decision is simply to take what the D gives you.
- As others have indicated, when a team both game-plans and faces a running game ... they know, from film study, the tendencies of a given RB. Thus, if the team only faces Wadley ... while Wadley supplies a home-run threat ... he's also a guy who goes down on first contact pretty easily. Thus, if a team preps to flow to the ball well ... Wadley finds himself constantly being gang-tackled. However, if there was also a contrasting running style for the D to prepare for ... then that HELPS the O in the big-picture. A stronger runner or a more physical RB who can break tackles ... that provides the D with something different to consider. That makes the running game harder to defend. Thus, while I understand Brian's desire to focus on getting the ball into the play-makers hands ... sometimes you have to also consider factors that can impact an opposing Ds prep too.
- While I love what the TEs bring to the table in terms of the passing game ... I've also seen a TON of blocks missed ... both in pass-pro and in the running game. Given how much we like to use TEs, it goes without saying that that HAS impacted the O. Our O is more potent in the passing game with our young guys (if Stanley has time to get the ball off) .... but then our running game can suffer.
- Similar to the above, our WRs are a little more green with respect to blocking ... and that has impacted the running game too.
- Lastly, our new O changes how and where defenders are positioned on the field. Greg Davis's "horizontal" O would spread Ds out horizontally. While opposing Ds might still stack the line ... much of the flow in coverage would be toward the edges (because the passing game would attack the D outside the hashes). This would leave the center of the field relatively vacated ... thus, that is part of the reason why we had a lot of success running inside zones (and other interior runs) ... even if "smaller" RBs like Canzeri and Wadley were running them. Now, our passing game has been more between the hashes ... and consequently, the center of the field has been congested more with defenders. The irony is that you might naturally think that we should attack the edges more in the running game - however, the problem there is that our edge blockers are still quite young. Consequently, while attacking the edges is a strategically sound thing to do ... executing it with consistency is quite another thing. Carefully watch the OTs, TEs, and WRs on the edge on our outside runs ... often times the play is there if just one block wasn't missed.
Consequently, I'm not going to "blame" Wadley for our offensive struggles. I'm not going to "blame" Brian for the struggles. I'm not going to "blame" the OL .... etc.
Rather, what we need to understand is that everybody is working hard to improve. Everybody, from the players to the coaches ... needs to improve. They need to work to improve. However, as a fan, I understand and trust that that is exactly what they're trying to do. How fast will they be able to improve? Hopefully pretty fast ... but who knows?
blocking by the TE's was a big concern going into the season. here is another tidbit to consider
Iowa went into the season with 15 returning SR starters and now is down to
3 Offensive SR starters on Offense and 4 SR starters on defense.
this alone has played the biggest factor on how the team has done to date.
Iowa went into the season with 15 returning SR starters and now is down to
3 Offensive SR starters on Offense and 4 SR starters on defense.
this alone has played the biggest factor on how the team has done to date.
I can usually at least get the gist of your posts. But you've lost me this time.
Sorry. But emotion runs Very high a very predictable offense.that's gist of it.i think this team can be good.But wasting special players running into 'WALL' And h/c designs gameplan. My opinion only.Hope this is clearer.Spread players out Wadley and use him as a Decoy.Fun when Hawks win.Hope i made a little sense no?
How is it that the same couldn't be said of Wisconsin's game plan? Really ... I'm serious. Watch the Wisconsin vs Nebraska game. Even after the game had gotten tied up 17-all ... what did Wisconsin do? They ran, ran, ran ... and we're not talking about tricky looks, misdirection, or any of that. We're talking about blocking and running. We're talking about one man moving another man against his will. Their success was predicated upon consistency and having each guy play their role. A lot of it is about execution son ... even if that's not the explanation you want it to be.
Similarly, if you watch the Wisconsin vs Purdue game ... you have Purdue executing pretty good D with respect to making Wisconsin have to earn every point they get. That then forced Hornibrook to do more in the passing game ... and, guess what? He did okay ... but it wasn't any sexier than what Iowa does on O. The big difference is that the execution in the running game is simply better.
If what we are doing moves chains keep it up.3 and out several times in row hurt bad.Then options should be looked at.Don Patterson said options are possible.And in old "days" Lombardi's packers ran power sweep.Said its coming! And they won super bowls.could not be stopped.i want to move chains.anyway ok.BUT several 3 and outs need to be looked at now.Now win sat and then..... NEXT HAWK PLAYERS TOUGH
The offensive line has played poorly all season. Little AW looks great when he gets even a small hole.
Nobody likes the 3 and outs ... however, you were initially just attributing our offensive problems to Ferentz's philosophy ... a philosophy that you were suggesting belonged to the stone-age.
Say Iowa completes some of those 3rd down passes ... then we're not staring down another 3 and out. More importantly, suppose Iowa gets more efficient on 1st down ... suppose we return to the point where our 1st down runs are more often in the ball-park of 4 to 6 yards. Then, all of a sudden, the O is not behind the chains .... and then the O has more play-book to work with. That makes it a little harder on the D to defend our O then.
I've already highlighted a multitude of reasons why our efficiency on early downs is low ... and offensive philosophy/scheme would be one of the least important on the list. There are far more egregious problems that presumably the O has been working on. Hopefully, through the coming weeks, we see the O execute at a higher level and demonstrate greater offensive efficiency.
When they added SR Butler another 1000+ yard rusher who also had over 375 yards receiving the coaches could do just what you are saying, Bulter is done for the season and now SO 1st year starter Stanley as these around him
RSFR RB Young
FR RB Kelly-Martin
SO TE Fant
RSFR TE Hochenson
FR WR Smith-Marsette
FR WR Brandon Smith
JR 1st year player and starter JUCO Transfer WR Easley
and now has these for tackles in place of RSSR's
LT RSFR Jackson
RT FR Wirfs
yeah I can understand why poster are upset with all the mistakes and the offense is not gaining 500+ every game and is not avg'ing 45+ ppg
Butler is not out for season and could be back as early as next week. He will wear a brace though.
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