Blown out of proportion by the media and the libtards
Wadley
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Blown out of proportion by the media and the libtards
This is just a single episode in a much larger disease that has gripped the country-victimitis and cancel culture. Everyone want the notoriety that comes with being a victim and nearly everyone wants to think they did their part to take down a boogeyman.
I don't think the current university president would have been inclined to force Doyle out without evidence. This has Barta's stamp on it.
Behind closed doors, Kirk has to be absolutely seething. To have this stuff come out on Twitter, some of it from guys that Kirk probably felt very close to, has to be a gut-punch of betrayal.
I think it's much more subtle than that. I believe the players that have spoken out about the things they experienced and I'm disappointed that it could happen at Iowa. I'm not surprised though not because I think the football program is full of racists but because it's our tendency to get comfortable with what we are doing without recognizing that others may experience it totally different than we intended. I think KF's response has been nearly perfect now that he has to take a hard look at what's been happening. Things like the twitter ban or what music is played in the weight room can be easy fixes once those in power understand the importance. The worst possible response would be to dig in and double down and push back as you say.
The media has give these young men the enormous power to destroy and they are doing it. Every malcontent with a grudge is making sh!t up. Wadley has no future so he might as well destroy as many others peoples futures as he can. I would no be surprised if there was some sort of demand for money that was refused before this was done. If Ferentz, one of the best people in college football, is done because of this, I am done with this F###ing program.
I'd hope he feels equally betrayed that Doyle was creating this kind of an environment when he was trusted with the players.
SO is your dream for the future of Iowa Football a bunch of undisciplined a holes, with their pants down around their knees?
Is there anyone other than DJK and Akrum that are trying to destroy the program? The overwhelming majority of players are simply trying to make things better at the school they love. Many of them have publicly stated that KF is the right person to lead the change the players want.
the media are lefty communists. they are "down with the cause " or movement. they must rip down American institutions. there is nothing more American than iowa football or midwestern football in general. they will come after other programs.
doyle did absolutely nothing and it was all made up, he was the scapegoat. he was tossed aside, under the bus. you see what is happening now: it did nothing to get rid of doyle. it was just a distraction. these guys want KF gone period.
uhhh, kf is in charge last I looked at the coaching roster. if any environment was ever invented it was by his hands.
Yes, it is my sincere hope that Iowa never wins another football game again. Perhaps you need to take a moment and think about why you are so committed to the players being wrong about what they experienced and that Doyle's method was the only possible way to have a successful football program.
My dream for the future of Iowa Football is that when kids come to Iowa, they stay. My dream is that each player is important, valued, heard but also challenged to do greater things than they even think possible. I think that the program can have high standards and expectations but go about requiring effort without creating an environment where players feel like they have to walk on egg shells. Happy people work harder in almost any line of work so why should Iowa Football be any different? I think we will be better for it when some changes to how things have been done in the past.
You obviously have no clue what makes a winning football team. Your touchy feely bullshit seems to come directly out of an episode of Portlandia. The environment you are describing is going to result in years of 0-12 teams. Might as well just cancel the damn program.
OiT, I truly appreciate your commitment to always being wrong.
I agree that it appears Akrum's mom and Robert Green won't stop until KF is gone. I wonder what Akrum's true feelings are on the topic. Who knows what DJK wants to happen. He probably doesn't even know.
Doesn't it mean anything to you that some of the most vocal critics have said publicly that they think KF is the person to make the changes the program needs? I truly believe that things could have played out in a way that kept the entire staff together but Doyle's statement ended that possibility. And I say that understanding that I would have struggled to say nothing if I was in his shoes at the time.
You honestly believe NO parent contacted KF about the allegations over the years? And you believe KF didn't know who and what Doyle was? If ignorance is bliss you are existing in a state somewhere between euphoric and orgasmic.
There seems to be a pattern. Many of the black players and parents talk about how the program made them better players and better men. The ones who are coming out now, way after the fact, seem to be ones who struggled with attitude, discipline etc at one point or another in their tenure at Iowa.
How many times were you dropped on your head as a child? Don't worry, you're in the circle of trust here, you can tell us.
no honestly I think kf saying he is making changes , and quite frankly your commitment to said changes, and other fans' commitment to said changes, and past players' comitment to said changes ,and so on, is misguided. because I think we are talking about "it" like "it " is one thing that could be changed. unfortunately I think "it" is a moving target. you shoot down doyle [figuratively, the target, like a clay pigeon], then another pigeon pops up. it's like getting rid of one al q dude and another and another pops up. sooner or later we are in Afghanistan for 20 years. I think these guys who are ready to rip down institutional America are not going to stop with one strength coach and some changes. we see that now with how it is playing out.OiT, I truly appreciate your commitment to always being wrong.
I agree that it appears Akrum's mom and Robert Green won't stop until KF is gone. I wonder what Akrum's true feelings are on the topic. Who knows what DJK wants to happen. He probably doesn't even know.
Doesn't it mean anything to you that some of the most vocal critics have said publicly that they think KF is the person to make the changes the program needs? I truly believe that things could have played out in a way that kept the entire staff together but Doyle's statement ended that possibility. And I say that understanding that I would have struggled to say nothing if I was in his shoes at the time.
the movement is playing "whack a mole". doyle was just one mole that popped up . he was beaten down. and another has popped up.
Uh, I believe it was the drug house thingy.
I'm well aware - it's simply the approach I would like to see them take.
They know what they're doing and have their eye on the Long Term, which frustrates me to a certain extent.
Let's hope there is football this fall so we can find out which one of is correct.
Lol at 'pants around their knees.' You sound like a hillbilly grandma.
Did you do any homework ISU fan? Any? Did you hear about him screwing over Iowa fans after graduating? Regardless if this story is true or not, he screwed over plenty of people/Iowa fans before releasing this.
The deterioration will be gradual. It is going to be about 3 years to obtain 0-12 and on ly if KF leaves. And by the way if KF stays he will not be implementing your version of a socialist utopia.
So one person’s comment made this all true. But several comments that were untrue do not?OiT, I truly appreciate your commitment to always being wrong.
I agree that it appears Akrum's mom and Robert Green won't stop until KF is gone. I wonder what Akrum's true feelings are on the topic. Who knows what DJK wants to happen. He probably doesn't even know.
Doesn't it mean anything to you that some of the most vocal critics have said publicly that they think KF is the person to make the changes the program needs? I truly believe that things could have played out in a way that kept the entire staff together but Doyle's statement ended that possibility. And I say that understanding that I would have struggled to say nothing if I was in his shoes at the time.
they are cancelling HS practices here. would not be shocked if college stuff gets cancelled
That story is so damn dumb. Okay so if it did happen, now reporting suspected illegal activity is somehow bad. And if the premises were searched, one would believe maybe they had a search warrant? Not sure how that works, maybe they brought in a drug dog with them.
I think there were 50 or more players that shared things that happened.
I know but apparently I live in a fantasy world so stop trying to kill my dream!
The poster wondered if KF felt betrayed by the players and I think he probably feels even more betrayed by Doyle.
I am sure there are a number on here who have been coaches at some levels in high school. You guys ever yell at players for not doing what they are told? The amazing thing to me is AW admits to the partying thing and showing up underweight, etc and they still played him every game.
I would take Levar Woods. Played D, played in NFL, coached O positions and special teams. Great recruiter.
I believe that when James Daniels had a private conversation to address issues that he didn't bring it up. I also believe that a program could be clicking pretty well and have a great culture and you will have parents that bring things like this up. Do you find it odd that players who have gone out of their way to specifically recognize Doyle as the best in the business, made me the man I am, got me to this level, etc. now have an issue?
If I had an issue with a person I would go out of my way to not give them any recognition, to not give them even the smallest indication that what they did was okay in my book, thank the fans, thank an assistant strength coach who helped me, thank God, thank the painted water tower but I wouldn't address this person by name in any positive way. "Chris Doyle?" he was our strength coach. That would be the only thing I would say.
Agreed, I am more likely to believe what James Daniels and Jaleel Johnson might be saying (about Doyle specifically) because they have nothing really to gain by stating it. They are millionaires and playing in the NFL - there is no money grab or other potential financial reason for them to come out with this stuff.
Wadley and DJK seem, quite frankly, like immature men who didn't achieve their goals - and maybe didn't work hard enough or take advice seriously enough to achieve those goals - and they are mad, disappointed, frustrated, embarrassed, and not willing to take responsibility for their own actions. So as immature adults do, they blame others for their issues, failures, and shortcomings. Obviously, I am sure like with anything there is a little shred of truth in their accounts but I highly doubt either one of them is being completely honest.
