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WaPo: San Fran debates reparations for blacks: Is $5 million enough?

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Tasked with calculating how much San Francisco should pay its Black residents for decades of discrimination, a government-appointed panel didn’t develop a mathematic formula. Instead, over the last year and a half, its 15 members have been studying the city’s history.

In the 1960s, city leaders demolished part of the Fillmore District, a neighborhood once known as the Harlem of the West, displacing 883 businesses and 20,000 people, most of them Black. Decades later, thousands of people remain displaced and the neighborhood has turned into a predominantly White enclave of multimillion-dollar homes.

To compensate for that and other instances of racial discrimination, the city’s African American Reparations Advisory Committee recently recommended that qualifying Black residents receive $5 million each in reparations.

“There wasn’t a math formula,” said Eric McDonnell, chair of the reparations committee and the principal of Peacock Partnerships, a San Francisco-based consulting firm. “It was a journey for the committee towards what could represent a significant enough investment in families to put them on this path to economic well-being, growth and vitality that chattel slavery and all the policies that flowed from it destroyed.”

The proposed reparations program is not a recompense for slavery, which was never legal in San Francisco, but instead, the committee’s report says, for “the public policies explicitly created to subjugate Black people in San Francisco by upholding and expanding the intent and legacy of chattel slavery.”

Across the country, more than a dozen cities and states have begun developing reparations programs, attempting to quantify the financial damage brought by slavery and decades of Jim Crow laws. Some proposals envision offering scholarships, or housing vouchers, while others call for Black Americans to receive cash payments.

But many are still struggling to with one central question: How much?

Finding a price tag big enough to satisfy reparations advocates and politically palatable to the many Americans polls have shown oppose financial restitution for Black Americans, could determine the fate of a movement that gained momentum after George Floyd’s 2020 murder but has yet to find national acceptance.

San Francisco’s $5 million proposal, multitudes larger than amounts being discussed in other communities has drawn intense backlash from conservatives who lambaste the idea as financially ruinous for a city with an annual budget of $14 billion that is still recovering economically from the pandemic. The proposal doesn’t explain who would qualify, but if even a fraction of the city’s 50,000 Black residents met the criteria, it would consume a huge amount of its annual budget.

John Dennis, chairman of the San Francisco Republican Party, says that he’s open to a conversation about whether Black residents should receive reparations but that the proposal wasn’t a serious effort to start one.

“This is just a bunch of like-minded people who got in the room and came up with a number,” he said. “You’ll notice in that report, there was no justification for the number, no analysis provided. This was an opportunity to do some serious work and they blew it.”

Even some within the reparations movement have dismissed the figure as unrealistic.

There are no widely accepted formulas for paying reparations, said William A. Darity Jr., an economist who has been advocating for reparations for decades, but the number should be “somewhat realistic.”

“Calling for $5 million payout by a local government undercuts the credibility of the reparations effort,” said Darity.

But supporters of the proposal say it’s justified, noting that the city’s Black residents have a median income of about $44,000 compared with $85,000 for Latinos, $105,000 for Asians and $113,000 for White residents, according to 2021 census data.

The scale of the payment should be weighed against San Francisco’s history of racist policies, including enforcing housing and school segregation, said Sheryl Evans Davis, the executive director of the San Francisco Human Rights Commission, which provided research support to the reparations committee. The city also has one of the highest costs of living in the country with a median home price of $1.3 million, she said.

A Chicago suburb promised Black residents reparations. Few have been paid.
How San Francisco settles the debate could reverberate throughout the reparations movement, setting a high water mark for an effort that has been criticized for, so far, producing small sums.

In Evanston, a Chicago suburb credited with having America’s first government-funded reparations program, the city is offering some Black residents a $25,000 housing voucher, a figure critics have called paltry. Providence, R. I. has announced a $10 million reparations program, but it doesn’t include any direct cash payments to Black residents — and White residents can also apply.

Meanwhile, Darity, the economist, says Black Americans should receive at least $350,000 each in a federal reparations program, a figure based on his calculation of the country’s racial wealth gap.

“We see the racial wealth gap as this core indicator of the cumulative effects over time of White racism and White supremacy on living Black Americans whose ancestors were enslaved here,” said Darity, a public policy professor at Duke University.

California has established a separate state reparations task force and asked a team of five economists to quantify the cost of discrimination that the state’s Black population has faced. The team calculated California’s maximum liability for discriminatory housing policies between 1933 and 1977 and settled on a figure of $569 billion. That would work out to $223,239 for every Black California resident.

The committee’s final report, which would take into account other forms of discrimination, is scheduled to be released in June. It’s separate from the local reparations efforts that have sprung up in Oakland, Los Angeles and Sacramento, which are developing their own approaches.

People line up to speak during a reparations task force meeting at Third Baptist Church in San Francisco on April 13, 2022.© Janie Har/AP
“People think there is a one-size-fits-all model” for reparations, said Kaycea Campbell, one of the economists advising California’s reparations task force. “But your perception of reparations could be very different based on what you think can get passed from a legislative point of view, what you think is most egregious, or what you think has been left as the residue of slavery as an institution.”

Japanese Americans who survived internment camps during World War II faced similar challenges when they began calling for reparations in the 1970s. There was tension over the best way to provide enough to fully account for the harm done to the Japanese community and finding a figure that would gather enough political support, said Donald K. Tamaki, an attorney who worked on the Supreme Court case that paved the way for reparations for Japanese Americans.

Compensating thousands of victims for years of imprisonment, the value of businesses and homes lost and the lives of people who were killed in the camps would have reached billions of dollars, said Tamaki.

Eventually, President Ronald Reagan signed legislation in 1988 to make $20,000 reparations payments to more than 80,000 Japanese Americans. It was a figure that was affordable and politically palatable, Tamaki said, but not one based on the economic calculations of the harm done to their community.

“Our strategists decided to go for a number which was large enough to make the apology meaningful as atonement,” Tamaki said. “But it was not reparations in terms of, ‘Here is the value of what was taken away from you.’”

But those negotiations are not a fair model for reparations for Black Americans, he said. “There’s no equivalent between four years in a concentration camp and centuries of enslavement and then years of racial terror and exclusion,” said Tamaki, who serves on California’s reparations task force.
 
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The debate has roiled local leaders in San Francisco, a liberal city where 85 percent of voters sided with President Biden.

Since the draft report’s release in December, the reparations committee has been inundated with hate mail, including emails and voice messages using explicit and racist language. Shamann Walton, the board member who authored the legislation creating the reparations panel, said in a recent Facebook post that members of his office, even interns, had received “threatening messages and some are fearful for their own lives.”

San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors is expected to vote on the committee’s recommendations later this year after a final report is released in June.

It was the committee’s responsibility to advocate for the best deal possible for Black residents, said Brittni Chicuata, director of economic rights at the San Francisco Human Rights Commission. It is up to elected officials to decide what the city could afford, she said.

“People propose policies all the time when they don’t necessarily know where the money is going to come from, since when is that a requisite for advocacy,” Chicuata said.

Despite the onslaught of criticism, some members of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors say they stand behind the committee’s work.

“I think that the people who are so focused on the dollar amount are really just attempting to undermine reparations for Black people,” said Walton, the board’s only Black member. “People are going to have to get comfortable with the fact that to do reparations there’s going to be some costs and figuring out how to achieve that is where the real work happens.”

The city can lead on the issue of reparations as it has done on other progressive issues, said Supervisor Dean Preston, who said while the $5 million figure accurately reflects the harm done to Black residents, he isn’t sure the city can afford it. “Honestly, half the things my office works on, people will say it’s impractical, it’s pie in the sky,” said Preston.

But some board members have already voiced opposition to the proposed $5 million payments. “I wish we had this kind of money in San Francisco’s general fund, but if we want to maintain the services that exist today, we do not,” Supervisor Hillary Ronen told the San Francisco Chronicle. Ronen did not respond to requests for an interview.

Despite being home to Silicon Valley’s tech billionaires, San Francisco faces a $728 million budget deficit over the next two years.

And even some reparations committee members are critical of the proposal. It distracts from the report’s other recommendations, said Amos Brown, a member of both San Francisco’s and the state’s reparations task forces.

“You can’t put a dollar tag on the horrifying and hellish evil that our ancestors went through,” said Brown, who has been the pastor of San Francisco’s Third Baptist Church since 1976. “But what you can do is implement simple, practical programs that will deal with our health challenges, our educational needs, our economic needs and creating spaces for us to connect as a community for our cultural needs.”
 
If you are going to give out reparations, make sure they are large enough, if you just hand out money and in 3 years are right back to where you were you are going to have to acknowledge there might be more going on.
 
The debate has roiled local leaders in San Francisco, a liberal city where 85 percent of voters sided with President Biden.

Since the draft report’s release in December, the reparations committee has been inundated with hate mail, including emails and voice messages using explicit and racist language. Shamann Walton, the board member who authored the legislation creating the reparations panel, said in a recent Facebook post that members of his office, even interns, had received “threatening messages and some are fearful for their own lives.”

San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors is expected to vote on the committee’s recommendations later this year after a final report is released in June.

It was the committee’s responsibility to advocate for the best deal possible for Black residents, said Brittni Chicuata, director of economic rights at the San Francisco Human Rights Commission. It is up to elected officials to decide what the city could afford, she said.

“People propose policies all the time when they don’t necessarily know where the money is going to come from, since when is that a requisite for advocacy,” Chicuata said.

Despite the onslaught of criticism, some members of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors say they stand behind the committee’s work.

“I think that the people who are so focused on the dollar amount are really just attempting to undermine reparations for Black people,” said Walton, the board’s only Black member. “People are going to have to get comfortable with the fact that to do reparations there’s going to be some costs and figuring out how to achieve that is where the real work happens.”

The city can lead on the issue of reparations as it has done on other progressive issues, said Supervisor Dean Preston, who said while the $5 million figure accurately reflects the harm done to Black residents, he isn’t sure the city can afford it. “Honestly, half the things my office works on, people will say it’s impractical, it’s pie in the sky,” said Preston.

But some board members have already voiced opposition to the proposed $5 million payments. “I wish we had this kind of money in San Francisco’s general fund, but if we want to maintain the services that exist today, we do not,” Supervisor Hillary Ronen told the San Francisco Chronicle. Ronen did not respond to requests for an interview.

Despite being home to Silicon Valley’s tech billionaires, San Francisco faces a $728 million budget deficit over the next two years.

And even some reparations committee members are critical of the proposal. It distracts from the report’s other recommendations, said Amos Brown, a member of both San Francisco’s and the state’s reparations task forces.

“You can’t put a dollar tag on the horrifying and hellish evil that our ancestors went through,” said Brown, who has been the pastor of San Francisco’s Third Baptist Church since 1976. “But what you can do is implement simple, practical programs that will deal with our health challenges, our educational needs, our economic needs and creating spaces for us to connect as a community for our cultural needs.”
How is this news? A biased group wants more money than anyone would consider legit. Thanks.
 
What qualifies as black? What if you're 25%? 10%? Do you only get a fraction? Do african americans from Egypt make the cut? 1st gen's from Jamaica or Nigeria? Ancestry.com says I'm 1% North African, I want my reparations!
 
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My favorite part is when white people who's grandparents could build generational wealth because they weren't legally excluded from whole neighborhoods due to their skin color complain about things like this.
 
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What qualifies as black? What if you're 25%? 10%? Do you only get a fraction? Do african americans from Egypt make the cut? 1st gen's from Jamaica or Nigeria? Ancestry.com says I'm 1% North African, I want my reparations!
Angela Davis just found out she has some MAJOR white folks DNA on Finding Your Roots.
Valerie Jarrett found out she is 51% white too.
Skip Gates and his PBS show are dangerous.
Does the VP qualify? She’s mixed race too.
 
My favorite part is when white people who's grandparents could build generational wealth because they weren't legally excluded from whole neighborhoods due to their skin color complain about things like this.

My favorite part is when no one can answer why Americans whose ancestors didn’t even get here until way after the Civil War owe anything..,
 
If you are going to give out reparations, make sure they are large enough, if you just hand out money and in 3 years are right back to where you were you are going to have to acknowledge there might be more going on.

They will never be large enough,.. nor will everyone who thinks they deserve reparations receive them...
 
I'll play. My take on qualifications:
Business owner in the district at the time, with ownership of at least 5 years
DNA test of the business owner showing 51% or more sub-Saharan Africa
 
If you are going to give out reparations, make sure they are large enough, if you just hand out money and in 3 years are right back to where you were you are going to have to acknowledge there might be more going on.
Large enough for what? What is it going to guarantee for black people 100 years from now?
 
What qualifies as black? What if you're 25%? 10%? Do you only get a fraction? Do african americans from Egypt make the cut? 1st gen's from Jamaica or Nigeria? Ancestry.com says I'm 1% North African, I want my reparations!
And In today’s world, what if you identify as black?
 
What qualifies as black? What if you're 25%? 10%? Do you only get a fraction? Do african americans from Egypt make the cut? 1st gen's from Jamaica or Nigeria? Ancestry.com says I'm 1% North African, I want my reparations!
What percentage would allow one to be enslaved before 1863? Also, I believe one has to trace their ancestry back to an enslaved person. Which, in my opinion, they should also be able to trace the descendants of the slave owners and they should be the people to pay the reparations.
 
How is this news? A biased group wants more money than anyone would consider legit. Thanks.
You should totally jump into this new thread on the same topic and rant and rave like a maniac at the OP. But we know you won't.

 
You should totally jump into this new thread on the same topic and rant and rave like a maniac at the OP. But we know you won't.

Absolutely @globalhawk should
 
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You should totally jump into this new thread on the same topic and rant and rave like a maniac at the OP. But we know you won't.

Talk to me when this happens. DQ.
 
What percentage would allow one to be enslaved before 1863? Also, I believe one has to trace their ancestry back to an enslaved person. Which, in my opinion, they should also be able to trace the descendants of the slave owners and they should be the people to pay the reparations.
Agreed. ^^ Keep in mind that some black people actually were slave owners too. They should not only be ineligible for reparations...their descendants should help pay for them.
 
Agreed. ^^ Keep in mind that some black people actually were slave owners too. They should not only be ineligible for reparations...their descendants should help pay for them.
Again, wouldn’t it be that Asians were treated way worse in San Francisco throughout its history? Why wouldn’t the reparations be targeted more towards who were actually harmed in the area from its start?
 
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