To each their own, but IMO this is a pretty short-sided take for having just watched two college football teams play each other that lost their legends to a war.
Washington fans humiliated by defeat want Jedd Fisch out
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All it takes for me is to watch the on going nightmare going on in the Middle East and Ukraine on TV. Can’t imagine waking up to that everyday.
Never understood why patriotism is so offensive to Liberals..
Fans is fans….regardless if what colors they wear. A big “nothing-burger”.
Iowa fan is “humiliated” because they got whipped by tOSU…arguably one of the best college football teams in the nation!
Wouldn't you after that mess. Run and throw up and down the field and then inside the red zone call the dumbest plays that should be called.
One thing about KF, he has gotten rid of a few coaches while he is allowed to linger for ever. USC canned their coach after losing to Iowa too. KF is the coach killer!
Actually....take a peek at the Hardcore Husky message board. They were pretty dismissive of Iowa and thought the only real factor that could derail their inevitable win would be the early start time. They gave ZERO credit to Iowa for being able to do, well, pretty much anything on a football field as well as or better than their squad.
WOB ruling?
So you want to be the only country that doesn't!
Hockey, soccer, fishing, wrestling, gymnastics and on the list goes. If a U.S. hockey team is playing a Canadian team they play both. Wrestling they play the countries national anthem of the winner.
Leave it to an American sloth to have zero pride in country. Not hard to figure political affiliation of you either.
There's a difference between patriotism and blind nationalism.
You're probably flying the Palestinian flag huh?
What is your evidence? For many countries they'll do it for major sporting events, particularly those involving their national-team and play involving international competition.
I do know that many professional leagues get big money for propping up nationalist/militaristic ideals. Thus, the promotion isn't (necessarily) of patriotism ... but rather, (it can also be) towing the line for (and legitimizing) the power-structure.
Anyhow, what's your evidence saying that all other countries do so? Your example of Hockey ... that is because the league is multi-national (falls into the category I already mentioned). Furthermore, Canada is very much like a little sibling anyhow ... so they're apt to copy us on many things anyhow (particularly since the roots of our nations both stem from Imperial Britain ... very much a purveyor of nationalist sentiment). Gymnastics? Most American exposure to gymnastics outside the country is likely linked to international competitions. How about small-time intra-national meets in Algeria? They play their national anthem at those meets? I don't know ... but I wouldn't consider it a given.
Huh? Playing a song is not blind nationalism.
It's not like UW is the only fanbase with an inferiority complex. A lot of programs' fans (and I'm sure that would include a handful of G5 and even FCS programs) would feel the same way if they were beaten like that by Iowa, a program not exactly known for offensive wizardry. I'm sure they felt smug after knocking off an OK Michigan team at home, but Iowa is likely better than Michigan this year (granted not by a whole heck of a lot, but the Wolverines are very nearly as awful offensively this year as Iowa was last year).
As it stands, Iowa is currently 94th in the country in offensive production. No, that's still not very good, but considering how bad we were in 2022 and 2023, it's a big step in the right direction. To put it in perspective, it's a solid 25 spots higher than Michigan.
Serious question: why is it only played before sporting events? Why not before every day Congress is in session? Why not before every School Board meeting? Why not every day before work begins on the new interstate bridge near my house?
A little side-fact ... did you know that Irish citizens tend to be very sympathetic to Palestinians because the treatment of Palestinians at the hands of the Israeli's was very much similar to that of the Irish at the hands of the British. What's more, Britain also played a significant role in the displacement of Palestinians in order to accommodate the formation of Israel.
Also, did you know that many ultra orthodox branches of Judaism opposed the formation of Israel. Interestingly, the formation of the Israeli state was actually the result of a secular movement. Of course, try getting some of Israel's neighbors to believe and/or understand that.
Why, to do this day, does Turkey still refuse to recognize the genocide/ethnic cleansing that occurred at their hands to the (once sizable) Armenian population toward the end of WWI?
I know history and I'm not ignorant of international things. Blind nationalism is dangerous. Nationalism, in itself, is fine ... but historically (and internationally), nationalist movements are usually coupled with racist/discriminatory forces.
To me, the best brand of patriotism is one where a nation is not blind to its own warts and it strives to be better and to do better.
Why does it have to be played before high school sports games? Why does it have to be played at college sports games? What purpose is it precisely serving?
I live near several military bases & they do play it every morning. And I love to hear it!
Oh Say, can you see
By the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed
At the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars
Through the perilous fight
O'er the ramparts we watched
Were so gallantly, streaming?
And the rockets' red glare
The bombs bursting in air
Gave proof through the night
That our flag was still there
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave
Respect for the greatest country on earth and the Americans who died for it. Don't like it? Hit the mute button.
Simple really.
I think Fisch is a really good coach but a little nerdy. His personality reminds me of Todd Lickliter.
You would think Husky board would have been much much more concerned about their loss to Wazzu. Embarrassing.
So many great patriots on this board. I’m glad all of you are ok with this country being build on genocide and slave labor.
The fact that the state to their South has the best team in the league complicates any B1G chest thumping.
Here is the issue with the people who claim to be “patriots.”
I love America. I also understand that we have some giant warts, and have a lot of things improve. For some insane reason, that acknowledgment is Marxism/Communism/Socializm, and fifteen other boogeymen.
I think Wasnington has a talented team that is going to cause a lot of problems the rest of the season if they don’t mail it in.
Dude I don't take stock until the end. This thread was about Washington. Oregon will eventually get theirs. They aren't gonna escape the pain.
would have been built without slaves too, just cheaper to use them at the time. do you think they wouldn't have built this nation otherwise? What we did to the Natives was terrible and wished we could have found a better way, had better meds and cleanliness back in the day. Having said that, the tribes fought each other as well, it wasn't some ideal world, it was tough, filled with hardships and death, just like it was for the warring factions in Europe in the dark ages. We had a great nation, founded by.....oh gasp, a bunch of white guys...deal with it.
You just summed up the history of the entire world in one sentence.
I was in Australia in August and they did not play the anthem before pro and amateur games. New Zealand as well.
Portugal, Spain, and England didn't play the national anthem before our games. Czech Republic played their anthem and the US anthem.
I'm not arguing with you, just stating that saying every single country plays the anthem is not correct.
Seems we can’t discuss any topic without someone trying to sabotage the thread with some dumb a$$ political crap
I've been in India and they play their national anthem before a movie at the theater.
Don't know if they play at every sporting event but they have played their anthem before futbol in Brazil.
I assume the majority of nations play their anthem before games, or ar least big games (that's purely a guess). My point was more to the fact that it's incorrect to say every country plays their anthem before sporting events.
If I was a fan of another team and Iowa put 40 on my team, I would be pissed too
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