Washington Post: Kamala Harris wants to force doctors and nurses to perform abortions even if they object.
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Then you are not interested in actual facts.
But she's right. You're 100% proving her point. If there's a fanatical here, it's you.
Your issue is with medical definitions and reality, not me. If you possessed a modicum of humility you would have already educated yourself as to what these terms actually mean versus how they make you feel.
They are probably not in positions where they are being asked to preform an abortion. Does the article say 79% of OBGYNs would refuse to preform an abortion?
Her pro-abortion argument is weak.
Her anger and emptiness are just cherries on top.
I know what an abortion is. You're trying to bring in irrelevant info to the discussion.
Yoir anti-abortion argument is weak.
Your anger and emptiness are just cherries on top.
She's 100% right. YOU don't get to tell HER what she does with her body based on your religion. Why wouldn't she be pissed? Her rights to her own body are being stripped away. Try to imagine that.
It's in the article I linked. She's not President yet so perhaps she will change her tune.
Then that woman dies, likely the fetus along with her, and the widowed husband gets to sue them for millions of dollars. And those doctors should lose their medical licenses and go work for the church, because they obviously want to put the wishes of their priest ahead of a woman's life, all in blind faith of an invisible sky man.
It doesn't.
It's reasonable to assume many ObGyn's wouldn't want to perform abortions.
Should they be forced to as Harris implied?
That's the discussion here.
I've never told her what to do.
The reason her argument is weak is because a fetus is a separate life from the Mother.
That's just the science.
I don't think it's reasonable to assume anything. Most doctors don't seem to be supporting an abortion ban.
What is the medical term for a miscarriage? Because it isn't miscarriage.
It sounds like there will indeed be many lawsuits if the Harris administration sues hospitals to force them to perform abortions.
BTW, there are atheist health care workers against abortion, too.
Termination means killing. That's literally what an abortion is. It's killing a human life.
Abortion - Wikipedia
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No, it's not. Abortion is ending the pregnancy. They don't necessarily require terminating the fetus. Hell, to answer the question I asked Rifler, a miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion.
The fetus dying on it's own and the removal of the tissue is an abortion. Ending a pregnancy of a non-viable fetus (one that is still "living") that will not survive outside of the womb is an abortion. A c-section of a premature fetus that is still living and will continue to live is an abortion.
We'll see.
Politicians say things in interviews that don't come true. I've read that Harris doesn't prepare much and just wings it.
If an emergency patient requires an abortion for the mother to live, and there is a conscience clause, individual staff can refuse to participate, should hospitals that are capable be required to perform that procedure? Should they be allowed to let her die.
Let’s go another step. Local hospital refuses to provide emergency life saving abortions and arranges a transfer to tertiary hospital. I, as a paramedic, get dispatched to perform that transfer. Should the paramedic be able to refuse that trip because they believe it would be participating in an abortion, to which I’m morally opposed?
OK well, this discussion is about Harris saying she believes doctors and nurses should be required to perform abortions even if they don't want to for conscience reasons.
Abortion in that case would including killing the fetus directly.
That's what the controversy is about.
That’s an extremist position. If you’re going to argue that, and it becomes law, it has
Many many consequences.
Harris said in the interview that hospitals and doctors should be forced to perform abortions. She didn't mention those should be limited to save the life of the Mother.
What percentage of abortions performed are for saving the life of the Mother?
This link claims less than half of 1%.
I'm curious because they are always brought up as examples when 96% of abortions are for convenience reasons.
Fact Sheet: Reasons for Abortion - Lozier Institute
Originally published on August 17, 2022, this fact sheet was updated on January 14, 2023, and again on May 24, 2024. After the Supreme Court ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, states across the country have enacted laws that limit abortion. Frequently, these state laws make...
It's not extreme.
If a pregnant woman is murdered, isn't it legally considered killing the fetus as well?
Not according to the science.
The Scientific Consensus on When a Human's Life Begins - PubMed
Peer-reviewed journals in the biological and life sciences literature have published articles that represent the biological view that a human's life begins at fertilization ("the fertilization view"). As those statements are typically offered without explanation or citation, the fertilization...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Know far more than you do. You are biased and anti life. You can't defend the most innocent. You are either warped or have no idea how abortions are done. Stop poisoning your brain.
There are many articles about it. She's had a huge staff turnover going back decades.
One complaint is that she doesn't prepare then throws her staff under the bus and they quit.
‘Not a healthy environment’: Kamala Harris’ office rife with dissent
There is dysfunction inside the VP’s office, aides and administration officials say. And it’s emanating from the top.
www.politico.com
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