Washington Post: Kamala Harris wants to force doctors and nurses to perform abortions even if they object.
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Can you state the point about emergency abortions?
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia
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There is no way any Supreme Court in the past 50 years would require a hospital perform elective abortions against their conscience. No xhance.Harris said in the interview that hospitals and doctors should be forced to perform abortions. She didn't mention those should be limited to save the life of the Mother.
What percentage of abortions performed are for saving the life of the Mother?
This link claims less than half of 1%.
I'm curious because they are always brought up as examples when 96% of abortions are for convenience reasons.
Fact Sheet: Reasons for Abortion - Lozier Institute
Originally published on August 17, 2022, this fact sheet was updated on January 14, 2023, and again on May 24, 2024. After the Supreme Court ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, states across the country have enacted laws that limit abortion. Frequently, these state laws make...lozierinstitute.org
Can you quote the part that says she doesn't prepare and "wings it?"There are many articles about it. She's had a huge staff turnover going back decades.
One complaint is that she doesn't prepare then throws her staff under the bus and they quit.
‘Not a healthy environment’: Kamala Harris’ office rife with dissent
There is dysfunction inside the VP’s office, aides and administration officials say. And it’s emanating from the top.www.politico.com
FWIW, what you linked is not an article but an opinion piece.
Additionally, Harris did not mention concessions related to healthcare workers in her 10/22/2024 NBC interview.(I am not sure of another NBC interview from last week that covered the subject, but I may be wrong)
The portion about concessions was related to dealing with the House if the GOP maintains control.
Here is the transcript
JACKSON: Some of those voters that I spoke with at some of the events yesterday, for example, talked about they were there to support you, but also your agenda when it comes to reproductive rights and abortion access, and you have cast this as a matter of literal life and death as an urgent priority here. If you win, it is entirely possible that Congress will be controlled by Republicans. So what specific concessions would you be willing to make in order to get something done on abortion access as soon as possible?
HARRIS: Well, first of all, look at what has happened since the Dobbs decision came down, a decision that is a direct result of the fact that Donald Trump hand selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention they would undo the protections of Roe. They did as he intended. And now in 20 states, we have Trump abortion bans, which some make no exceptions for rape or incest.
Which criminalizes health care providers, in a state like Texas, prison for life for doctors and nurses if they provide reproductive care. And where we have seen this issue on the ballot, to your point about elections, from red states to blue states, when freedom is on the ballot, the American people vote for freedom regardless of the party they are registered to vote with. We have seen that.
And I know that there are members of the United States Congress who are well aware that their constituents are in favor of the very fundamental principle that a woman should be able to make decisions about her own body, and not have her government tell her what to do.
JACKSON: So is a question of pragmatism then: what concessions would be on the table? Religious exemptions, for example, is that something that you would consider with a Republican controlled Congress? [xtalk]
HARRIS: I don’t think we should be making concessions when we’re talking about a fundamental freedom to make decisions about your own body.
JACKSON: To Republicans like, for example, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, who would back something like this on a Democratic agenda, if, in fact, Republicans control Congress, would you offer them an olive branch, or is that off the table? Is that not an option for you?
HARRIS: I’m not gonna engage in hypotheticals because we could go on a variety of scenarios. Let’s just start with a fundamental fact, a basic freedom has been taken from the women of America: the freedom to make decisions about their own body., And that cannot be negotiable, which is that we need to put back in the protections of Roe v Wade. And that is it.
So many hypotheticals. Can a woman be required to not travel if a single doctor says it would be detrimental to the fetus? Can she be required to not work, or perform certain tasks? If a single doctor says that a brand of makeup might be detrimental can she be required to switch. Can she be required to get immunized, or prevented from being immunized, based on a single doctor?
If you’re going to say that a fetus has the same rights to life as the mother you have to address those and a thousand more questions. How many women are going to refuse pregnancy under those circumstances?
I read it in the Washington Post. Maybe this article although it's paywalled.
I don't know.
What do you think about the possibility of a Harris administration forcing doctors to perform every type of abortion against their conscience?
Then how do you know it says she "wings it?" The article is over 2 years old.
I've read several articles from her former staff going back a few years.
Her high staff turnover is a matter of public record. Apparently, she was awful to work for.
I hope she improves if she wins Tuesday.
Awful to work for is something that is often leveled at women in positions of authority. Remember all the accusations about Amy Klobuchar being a horrible boss including the "awful" story of her eating a salad with a comb. Meanwhile Trump fired almost everyone from his staff and being awful to work for is hardly even mentioned.
Come on. Playing the gender card? The staff turnover is a matter of record.
Amy Klobuchar is straight up evil. So is Trump. I bet both are horrible bosses.
If you don't think gender is involved you're not paying attention. Why do you think Klobuchar is evil?
Because she abused her staff.
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There’s at least a dozen OBGYNs where I live. None of them performed abortions before Louisiana pretty much outlawed it, so you would appear to be FOS. Regardless, requiring any of them to perform a procedure is anti-freedom. No physicians where I live are actually mandated to offer any particular service. Just like no lawyers are mandated to take on any particular type of case, no architects are required to design any type of building, no mechanics are required to work on any particular type of vehicle, etc. That goes with living in a free country.
Based on rumors, my goodness have you ever lived in a small town? Rumors are rarely the full truth.Because she abused her staff.
Terrified Aides Say Senator Klobuchar Is Just Like Trump
Rumors about Klobuchar’s temper are exploding into public view just as she prepares to make a 2020 announcement.www.vanityfair.com
Did you read the article?
Her former staff discuss her abuse publicly.
Regardless, let's go back to the topic. She also supports abortion. That doesn't help her evilness.
Because
They happen to work
At a facility
That is not equipped
To perform abortions.
I would guess the percentage of Obgyns performing abortion would be basically unchanged. Unless you are under the impression that Obgyns will now be dragged to hospitals and abortion clinics and forced to perform abortions. In which case I don’t think any of us can help you with your misperception. We can explain it for you but we can’t understand it for you.
Getting back to the topic, if an Obgyn doesn't want to perform an abortion where the life of the Mother isn't at risk, do you think they should be forced to by a Harris administration?
The Harris administration has never stated they would try and "force" anyone to perform an abortion, as I am aware. Can you provide anything other than the opinion piece posted in the OP?
No
You do not.
I'm certain my post on placental anomalies was "new" to you.
Go re-read it, and Google if you want to learn more about them.
When they occur, early abortion BEFORE there are significant complications is frequently warranted, and should be 100% the decision of the patient and physician.
You have no clue if they performed abortions, or not.
It is generally a requirement in an ObGyn residency, because patients WILL present with fetal or placental anomalies which will require them.
No, the opinion does not provide a direct quote. I linked the full transcript of the interview and copied and pasted the relevant section.
So again, do you have anything other than the linked opinion piece?
So if a woman has an ectopic pregnancy with the risk of a ruptured fallopian tube, internal bleeding, and death then any physician, regardless of religious beliefs, would perform the necessary abortion?
There was her speech on Saturday.
Harris was practically orgasmic at the prospect of unlimited abortions.
Actually, I do know. It has always been well known in our community that New Orleans (50 miles away) was the nearest place that one could get an abortion.
Not every facility is equipped to provide surgical care.
NO's actually has "hospitals". Perhaps your example is a reason that maternal deaths rates are so high in the South...
Or how about this. Franciscan Missionaries
It’s actually New Orleans, Baton Rouge, and Shreveport that make Louisiana’s statistics so bad.
So no, you don't have any links that actually quote her. Got it.
The opinion piece linked plus her extreme pro-abortion voting record is enough, IMO.
Or maybe look at it this way. Franciscan Missionaries operates perhaps the second largest hospital network in Louisiana. Their leases (pre Dobbs) banned abortions on any of their properties. Seems like forcing any of these hospitals to provide abortion services would run afoul of 1A, eh?
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