Washington state bans sale of AR-15s and other semiautomatic rifles, effective immediately
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I stopped reading that when I saw basically it’s accuracy range is 150 million guns and the Pew Research Center was the source…Looked up gun ownership by state and Washington ranks ahead of Florida….never would have guessed that.
Gun Ownership by State 2024
worldpopulationreview.com
Only a matter of time they'll be coming for our penis's.
^Note the man with no gun to protect his penis; this is exactly what they want.
9 other states have passed the same legislation.
I would not blame an Australian for having an AR. Have you seen the size of those tarantulas down under?
Yep,,,,well regulated.
Unconstitutional part comes in if they start confiscating legally purchased firearms.
It'd be interesting to see how a AR-15 "buy-back" program would go. You'd have to make it financially enticing....$5K would be my starting point.
Problem we have is there are 20M+ in circulation...how do you address that minus confiscation which is a non-starter.
I don't see it working. There are too many people that love their guns. I don't personally like any guns that can cause mass casualties in a private citizens hand but I respect the law. It's a tough one.
I don't own any fire arms....haven't ever owned one.
I've considered it from time to time since I moved back to the states. Ironically if I did buy one for "home protection" it'd probably be an AR-15. Simply because I'd be comfortable with it after being trained and qualifying with the military equivalent for 26 years. Wouldn't be as comfortable with a hand gun.
Nice. Something to compare to. I’ve done some looking around and it’s frustrating because it doesn’t appear numbers coincide from site to site.
I weep for all the tiny dicked men of Washington...stay strong boys.
I still don't get the knock on being a PE teacher. You need an education degree. OTOH, you come across as an ignorant ass.
I can't wait to watch MAGA twist themselves into knots about how it's now NOT a states rights issue. Delicious.
Alternatively, you could take your handgun to a shooting range or someone's pasture and, you know, practice.
I know we've been over this on this site, but you do know what "well regulated" means in the context of the 2A? It means in effective shape to fight.
A person could interpret the 2A to mean that the militia (the citizens) are to be armed to the teeth with the weapons of modern warfare. Citizens back in those days owned cannons and ships in addition to handheld arms. Think of the modern day equivalent.
I'm not advocating for people to have the ability to own a personal RPG or a howitzer. I'm simple saying I hate it when anti-gun people throw out the word "regulated" and think it means "restrictions" because it does not. You're actually defeating your own argument bringing that up.
I could...but one of the reasons I don't have a firearm is I'd worry about my grandkids, that seem to get into every, getting a hold of one. Seems that those incidents usually involve a hand gun.
Anyway, I'd probably settle for a shotgun if I couldn't buy an AR-15....don't plan on buying either unless the Zombie apocalypse seems imminent.
In your context I'd point to the national guard as the 'in shape to fight' militia. In those days the government controlled the militia and would call upon them in times of crisis. The yahoos playing Rambo in the woods of Michigan are not well regulated nor are they in fighting shape.
I'll listen to this. I would counter that the first nine Amendments in the Bill of Rights enumerate individual liberties while the 10th Amendment delegated the powers not given to the Federal government covered in the Constitution to the States. So every Amendment refers to individual liberties but the 2A? Hardly. The National Guard is an extension of the government and the militia, the citizens of the USA, are given the rights to stand up against such a power should it become tyrannical. So the idea that you'd give the Federal government the power over the militia, the same militia that needs to be ready to stand up against the government, makes no sense. Also, states aren't given rights they are given powers, such as in the 10th Amendment where they are granted their powers, literally says "powers" the second word of the 10A. The idea that a State is given the right to bear arms in the 2A as a liberty makes no sense.
We're not going to solve this decades old Constitutional argument here. I don't expect that, but at least we can have a civil Constitutional discussion about the 2A without the emotions and the rhetoric. The fact is the 2A gives the individual the right to keep and bear arms and that right shall not be infringed. If we want to change that the Founders even included a mechanism TO change it. It's called a repeal process.
I don't see how Washington's law or the laws of other States on this subject are constitutional. States Rights? Yep, those powers are granted in the 10A and cover those areas not already covered by the Constitution and the BoR. The right to keep and bear arms is already covered in the 2A so State laws cannot infringe upon that right.
Yes and in order to have effective shape to fight there would need to be things like rules, order, discipline none of which really exists now.
So why isn't in within the grandest keeping of the 2nd amendment to institute rules, order and discipline on gun owners so that we test them out and make sure that they know gun safety, show effective muzzle and trigger discipline, have not violated any laws etc etc.
Shouldn't we be making sure that anyone that is going to be showing up with their gun in the militia could you know actually use it?
You understand that the Bill of Rights are enumerated to the people, and that makes it not a States Rights issue.
He is a fascist. Fascists take guns and make laws to make them illegal.
WA bans sale of AR-15s and other semi-automatic rifles, effective immediately
Washington has become the 10th state to ban the sale of AR-15s and other semi-automatic rifles, but opponents have vowed to sue to overturn the law.www.seattletimes.com
It will never stand up in court, it is a violation of the 2nd Amendment rights of every person in that lousy antifi ridden state.
Just turn yours in today, as far as I'm concerned I'll never turn mine in no matter what.
Well regulated meant well armed, functional, etc. According to scholars, it was the English of the day.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality
I would prefer some type of magazine exchange. Limit the capacity to 10 and offer to exchange all high capacity magazines for new ones that only hold 10 rounds.
i have no problem with that....there's probably enough high capacity magazines in circulation (who knows) that'd probably not make much of a difference.
You’d have to make it illegal to possess the high capacity magazine after a certain amount of time to make any difference.
