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WATCH 31 Minute Video from the Big Ten Network Bus Tour in Iowa City Aug 15 & Aug 16 (first Airing of their Show from IC)

Seems like this was done before last week and kids day as they mention scrimmage the next day so not sure any qb put distance on the other or optimism that the passing game to wr's will be see major strides, te's will get their stats and lets hope the o-line has improved and the running game clicks.
 
Seems like this was done before last week and kids day as they mention scrimmage the next day so not sure any qb put distance on the other or optimism that the passing game to wr's will be see major strides, te's will get their stats and lets hope the o-line has improved and the running game clicks.
They have a scrimmage today. That’s the scrimmage they are referring to.

KF and Lester said Cade has had good week of practice (since Kid’s day,) but it’s a close competition. That is consistent with what a couple of podcasts have suggested this week.

The OL allegedly looked good, and has all camp. As has the running game.
 
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full text of tweet:

In the QB battle, Iowa OC Tim Lester loves watching 2s vs. 1s.

“I love a quarterback that can take the 2s with technically inferior athletes and find a way to get first downs against the 1s; make the people around you better. … We’ve done that a little bit just to see who can handle themselves.”



Reading between the lines of the other quotes, and this, I think the coaches are
leaning Sullivan due to upside, but are giving Cade the benefit of the doubt due to experience, recovering from injury and leadership. And, promises made when they pursued him in the portal.

I don’t think it’s a bad thing that this isn’t settled. At this point last year, Cade had the job wrapped up, despite tweaking something in fall camp, because NOBODY ELSE could challenge him despite him clearly being hampered. Now, he’s as healthy as he’s been in a long time, but we have a guy that’s pushing him hard and might just be better. Having QB play better than Deacon last year is a low bar, but if it can also be better than it was through 4 games last year (where we were 82nd in the country in off. efficiency), then that leaves me feeling pretty good.
 
The main thing I got is that they think the offense will be improved, if for no other reason than the O line is better and the run game will improve as a result. They don't sound enthused about the passing game, but it's still an improvement.
 
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They have a scrimmage today. That’s the scrimmage they are referring to.

KF and Lester said Cade has had good week of practice (since Kid’s day,) but it’s a close competition. That is consistent with what a couple of podcasts have suggested this week.

The OL allegedly looked good, and has all camp. As has the running game.
Cool thanks for info as was on laptop and trying to watch the big special on tv
 
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Like every year. In the end they said it's still a team built on solid defense and special teams. That's not going to change. Can the offense get a pulse? We'll see.
Maybe we need to remind the rest of the world, defense wins championships. Yeah we need to be able to move the ball, but we only need to move it more then we allow it to be moved. (I know in stats that does not always work out, but you know what I mean.)
 
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As most of us could infer - a big weakness of the O will be that we're simply just really young on the outside at WR.

The Hawks have traditionally been "hurt" on O due to inconsistency at WR ... particularly as it relates to regularly getting open AND catching the ball when they're delivered decent balls.

Part of what led to the proverbial "wheels coming off" of the O over the past few years were the following crises:
  • inconsistent QB play ... either due to inherent limitations (big Deac) OR due to regressive development attributable to poor pass-pro and too much being heaped on the QB (Petras)
  • opposing Ds "learned" what Brian was doing
  • too many top guys on the O getting injured (key guys on the OL, both Lachey and All going down last year, QB injuries, etc)
  • the offensive players lost faith in Brian
I expect that Iowa's O will be a "work-in-progress" through a big hunk of the season. Part of that is attributable to the following reasons:
  • new scheme
  • inexperience/inconsistency at WR
  • "newness" of Iowa's QBs within the new scheme
However, I also expect that Iowa's O will improve through each and every week (assuming we can benefit from some personnel continuity ... knock on wood). The O may end up being a throw back to something like the 2003 season ... or like the 2013 season.

I do feel as though the O will be "more of a friend" to the D than it's been over the prior few seasons. Heck, if you even look back to last season ... when Cade wasn't hobbling ... our O seemed to have some flashes.
 
As most of us could infer - a big weakness of the O will be that we're simply just really young on the outside at WR.

The Hawks have traditionally been "hurt" on O due to inconsistency at WR ... particularly as it relates to regularly getting open AND catching the ball when they're delivered decent balls.

Part of what led to the proverbial "wheels coming off" of the O over the past few years were the following crises:
  • inconsistent QB play ... either due to inherent limitations (big Deac) OR due to regressive development attributable to poor pass-pro and too much being heaped on the QB (Petras)
  • opposing Ds "learned" what Brian was doing
  • too many top guys on the O getting injured (key guys on the OL, both Lachey and All going down last year, QB injuries, etc)
  • the offensive players lost faith in Brian
I expect that Iowa's O will be a "work-in-progress" through a big hunk of the season. Part of that is attributable to the following reasons:
  • new scheme
  • inexperience/inconsistency at WR
  • "newness" of Iowa's QBs within the new scheme
However, I also expect that Iowa's O will improve through each and every week (assuming we can benefit from some personnel continuity ... knock on wood). The O may end up being a throw back to something like the 2003 season ... or like the 2013 season.

I do feel as though the O will be "more of a friend" to the D than it's been over the prior few seasons. Heck, if you even look back to last season ... when Cade wasn't hobbling ... our O seemed to have some flashes.
No, basically we suck at offense because our OL play has been sub standard. Our wr recruiting was never thought of. Our QB positions was always based on what 1 guy could do, so zero depth or competition. Remember the days when 7 got 6? If we had that with good OL play and the TE room we have, we would be alright. Man I remember watching that fade pass and thinking, it is almost not defendable (without drawing a flag). 1 throw and one wr and it changed many a game. (which is what got my hopes up with the new OC and putting someone with the speed of Wetjen in there catching balls. Drop a fade into his arms while he is in a full run and he is gone gone gone.
 
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The commentator Ashley mistakenly said Jay Higgins has a chance to be the all-time NCAA tackler (*since official stats started in 2000) --she obviously meant Nick Jackson, thanks to playing his 6th season this year.
I noticed that too and thought it was funny. Dudes only played one full season, so I knew she got him confused with Jackson. Still liked her being in the group. Kind of a breath of fresh air and she was kind of the moderator for the old guys...
 
Observations:

DiNardo respects the program and the KFz method. Always has.
Phil is one of the best in the business. We're lucky to have him.
The biggest question mark on the D is the backfield. DeJean is a bigger loss than most realize.
KFz looked and sounded noticeably older.
Jackson and Higgins are as smart as they are athletic. Two great guys to anchor your D
The OL is improving (thank god)
QB situation isn't good.
Almost no mention of skill players (WR/RB) outside of Lachey...which is telling.
Lester is a good coach, but he was handed a shit show with limited talent. Only so far you can take it in the short term.

The offense isn't going to be much better. Don't expect 10-2 again.
I'd be willing to bet we do go 10-2. If we can run the ball, (and I think we will) then with the TE's and ANY WR production we'll be somewhat better on O. The D will be formidable.....
 
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One of Kirk’s best hires post original staff was Soup

Iowa had lots of issues with WR drops. We all remember Tate blowing up at his WRs (and KOK).

Soup came on and we had a great run of really productive WR.

Even under GDGD we had decent WR which helped out Stanley as GDBF took over.

McNutt
DJK
KMM
K. Davis
MVB
ISM
B. Smith

Might be missing one or two, but compare what we’ve had since 2021….and it’s not even close.
 
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Won't be worse than the year that the analysts nicely said the offense sucked ass when they should have accurately been much harsher about how bad the offense actually sucked.
That was 2022. The group discussing Iowa's offense was about as awkward as DeShaun Foster's opening remarks at media days.
 
Oh, thank God! If there's anything that is comforting when I'm concerned about Iowa's passing game, it's KF letting me know that the QB had a good week of practice....
At Kid’s day he said what we saw during the open practice was what they had seen the first week of camp.

Maybe he’s lying, but it sure beats the hell put of what Kirk said last week, which was, yeah he has sucked ass.

Considering the guys who cover Iowa heard he had good week, Kirk and Tim said he had a good, and the BTN crew didn’t act like Iowa is fvcked, it seems plausible he had a week.

I’d much prefer evidence in a game, but at this point, this is as good as we can hope for.
 
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Maybe we need to remind the rest of the world, defense wins championships. Yeah we need to be able to move the ball, but we only need to move it more then we allow it to be moved. (I know in stats that does not always work out, but you know what I mean.)
Not defense alone...
 
Yeah defense wins championships but you do have to score to actually win a game

Iowa scored 0 against their best competition.

Guess we could just go all in and expect that the defense and special teams will pick up the scoring and our offense exists to punt / flip the field
Punting is losing.
 
One of Kirk’s best hires post original staff was Soup

Iowa had lots of issues with WR drops. We all remember Tate blowing up at his WRs (and KOK).

Soup came on and we had a great run of really productive WR.

Even under GDGD we had decent WR which helped out Stanley as GDBF took over.

McNutt
DJK
KMM
K. Davis
MVB
ISM
B. Smith

Might be missing one or two, but compare what we’ve had since 2021….and it’s not even close.
That was why I was hoping with some of this speed we keep hearing about, we might be able to get some guys behind some defenses. I mean we have to have someone who can make the throws too,
 
I’ve been a broken record but it’s really difficult for any playmaker to get free when they only run east - west

Wetjen….has he run any vertical routes ever ? Every time he’s been on the field he’s a jet sweep guy

You look at those highlights of McNutt and outside of the bubble screen which we still use a lot….how many of those other routes are in the playbook ?

There were at least 3-4 TD passes on deep posts. Slant routes….

Those are all gone and i get the QB needs some time but even in replays the route tree is sideline outs

There’s no fear on the opposing defense of anything over the middle or over the top

Iowa ends up doing the very thing Iowas defense believes college offenses can’t do….run a 15 play drive and score

We saw many games last year with 11 play drive for 25 yards and most of our drives were bailed out by penalties

Iowa needs their playmakers in space …..past the LOS and moving forward. Not lateral
 
I’ve been a broken record but it’s really difficult for any playmaker to get free when they only run east - west

Wetjen….has he run any vertical routes ever ? Every time he’s been on the field he’s a jet sweep guy

You look at those highlights of McNutt and outside of the bubble screen which we still use a lot….how many of those other routes are in the playbook ?

There were at least 3-4 TD passes on deep posts. Slant routes….

Those are all gone and i get the QB needs some time but even in replays the route tree is sideline outs

There’s no fear on the opposing defense of anything over the middle or over the top

Iowa ends up doing the very thing Iowas defense believes college offenses can’t do….run a 15 play drive and score

We saw many games last year with 11 play drive for 25 yards and most of our drives were bailed out by penalties

Iowa needs their playmakers in space …..past the LOS and moving forward. Not lateral
Well we need guys all over. Across the middle, slants and a deep route. BUT you are right, it would be interesting to see when was the last 5 throws for 20 yards??? Stanzi used to do it all the time. I mean I would guess that the entire defensive backfield is going to try and keep things in front of them and when you go over their head........... they are forced to back up off the los. BUT you have to have some speed and you have to have a qb that can make the throws.
 
At Kid’s day he said what we saw during the open practice was what they had seen the first week of camp.

Maybe he’s lying, but it sure beats the hell put of what Kirk said last week, which was, yeah he has sucked ass.

Considering the guys who cover Iowa heard he had good week, Kirk and Tim said he had a good, and the BTN crew didn’t act like Iowa is fvcked, it seems plausible he had a week.

I’d much prefer evidence in a game, but at this point, this is as good as we can hope for.
I sure hope the QBs look better Aug 31st than they did on kids’ day. I just know that Spencer and Deacon hold world records for number of good weeks of practice….
 
I sure hope the QBs look better Aug 31st than they did on kids’ day. I just know that Spencer and Deacon hold world records for number of good weeks of practice….
I also hope they are better than “we shouldn’t put a QB on the field.”

I have hard believing anybody would say he had a good week if it looked anything like last Saturday.

The difference between Cade/Sullivan, and Deacon/Spencer. The former have played competent football in actual college football games.
 
I’ve been a broken record but it’s really difficult for any playmaker to get free when they only run east - west

Wetjen….has he run any vertical routes ever ? Every time he’s been on the field he’s a jet sweep guy

You look at those highlights of McNutt and outside of the bubble screen which we still use a lot….how many of those other routes are in the playbook ?

There were at least 3-4 TD passes on deep posts. Slant routes….

Those are all gone and i get the QB needs some time but even in replays the route tree is sideline outs

There’s no fear on the opposing defense of anything over the middle or over the top

Iowa ends up doing the very thing Iowas defense believes college offenses can’t do….run a 15 play drive and score

We saw many games last year with 11 play drive for 25 yards and most of our drives were bailed out by penalties

Iowa needs their playmakers in space …..past the LOS and moving forward. Not lateral
If the oline can give the qb time to make the deep throw then we will hopefully see it. Seems like whoever the Iowa qb was the last few years was getting planted into the ground on basic pass plays. It’s all on the oline so good to hear they are playing well in camp.
 
If the oline can give the qb time to make the deep throw then we will hopefully see it. Seems like whoever the Iowa qb was the last few years was getting planted into the ground on basic pass plays. It’s all on the oline so good to hear they are playing well in camp.
Yeah, that was bad. Hard to throw the ball when you are lying on your back. Hopefully the OL is better (because they were not good the last couple of years) but also hopefully the offensive scheme does not allow a defense to just tee off on 70% of the plays. I think the motion will help with that a little.
 
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Yeah defense wins championships but you do have to score to actually win a game. Iowa scored 0 against their best competition.

Guess we could just go all in and expect that the defense and special teams will pick up the scoring and our offense exists to punt / flip the field


Yep. Still crazy to think we went 10-2* in the regular season. We somehow finished ranked #17 in the final CFP poll, too.

But vs ranked teams?
0-31, Penn State
0-26, Michigan
0-35, Tennessee
.....................
0-92 Total
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* 11-1 (it wasn't a fair catch)
 
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Pretty bold statement....Only about 6 conference champions and one national title. So I agree with you....

Psshh sharing a piece of the conference. Also, figure out how many people on this board were actually alive when Iowa won that national championship.
 
I sincerely hope we see both QB's in game 1, and not just seeing QB2 during mop-up time (if there is mop-up time). If neither has shown a clear #1 status, then both need a chance to lead the team in an actual game. I know KF doesn't like to do that, but this situation warrants it IMO.
 
tough when Kirk says that his projected starter hasn't seen the field and is still working towards getting back. He is right in stating the line is where the offense needs to start, but as we've all seen 9 in the box and a draw play doesn't tend to work. Personally, all 3 qbs need to see the field week 1. Marco has been in the system, and has the scramble ability, I don't care if he turns the ball over, just the same as 2009 where he threw 17 TDs to 15 INTs.
 
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