Watch video; at least 2 (or 3?) Illini asst coaches were yelling at Fran in handshake line

[Hawksfor3]

Apparently Connor complained to Eades about his not calling a foul on Illinois during their overly physical attempt to strip the ball,... Eades followed Connor to the bench to continue the conversation...

I replayed the last 4 seconds over a few times and when Connor and Eads had their exchange at the end, Chin was listening to it all.

 

[papabeef]

Most people are pointing to the dunk as starting this.

But I think the coaches are pissed at Connor because they think he threw an elbow.

Watch the very end replay again, the defender swipes a few times, including what should have been a foul. Connor covers the ball and does a quick, short swing of his arms. The tv angle shows he didn’t make contact. But the coaches had their view blocked and could easily interpret it as having been an elbow to the ribs of their guy. That would explain why they were yelling at him before the handshake line.

He didn’t make the dunk, he just threw the pass up court to get away from a full court defense collapsing on him. So why would they have been mad at him about that? An elbow that they assumed occurred would explain the anger.


If refs aren’t going to control the full 40 minutes of the game, then they better be accountable for what happens in the aftermath. There should be a reprimand for lack of control of game for the refs and a reprimand to the assistant that instigated this blowup.

even if he calls a foul everything happens the same way .

 

[papabeef]

From the looks of the video, Connor is walking towards his bench and he said he wasn’t talking to Ayo. Mike Eads runs in as he wasn’t even the closest official to the the action or Connor. You clearly see Eads directing Connor toward his bench, but he was already walking that way before Eads stepped in. Connor told Eads that this was the refs doing for not having control of the game and letting Illinois hack at them while they were running out the clock. Connor told Eads he did the same thing last year vs ISU (not earlier against ILL). Connor is completely right.

I have no idea why Eads felt the need to run up to Connor other than to stir some shit. Clear and simple. That needs to be looked at. I’ve never had an issue with Eads as an official, but the way Eads handled the ending of the this game needs to be addressed.

maybe to stay between him and the ill. bench ?

 

[chuck285]

Too bad the B1G commissioner doesn't suspend those two goons called ass(istant) coaches for one game. If there would have been a fight then both teams (players) would have been punished instead of the two instigators..B1G needs to get some balls...

 

[Franisdaman]

@Franisdaman I just replayed the last 1:30 of the game. After Felize hit the 3 pointer, and Weezy dunked, Underwood called timeout with 4.1 remaining, I was watching the Iowa players on the sideline. I noticed Bakari talking to one of our assistants and he was looking toward the Illini bench like he was disgusted about something, and he pointed toward them and walked away. Hope you DVR'd it. If so, can you go back and look at it just after BU called the timeout at 4.1?

ugh; i did not DVR it

 

[kelzer]

And I can see why opponents don't like Garza, Frederick and Conor. They will let the opponent bench know about it when they make a play or do something.

It's always been my experience that when players on the court are trash talking to the opponent's bench, it's in response to the bench's trash talking. Pretty common.

 

[Rifler]

It's always been my experience that when players on the court are trash talking to the opponent's bench, it's in response to the bench's trash talking. Pretty common.

And that was the case here, as the Illini players and bench were very verbal throughout this entire game,.. They didn't receive anything that they hadn't already shared...

 

[DodgerHawki]

It's always been my experience that when players on the court are trash talking to the opponent's bench, it's in response to the bench's trash talking. Pretty common.

Totally agree. Again, not uncommon. But when Iowa does it, apparently the world is on fire.

 

[iahawks10]

maybe to stay between him and the ill. bench ?

There is a lot wrong with that thought process.

1) Eads was behind CM and nowhere close to being between CM and anyone else. Nor did he ever try and get between CM and the bench. He followed him and pointed, that’s all.

2) CM was walking in a direct path towards his bench. He wasn’t talking to anyone, especially Ayo who was walking directly to his bench.

3) Why did Eads feel the need to single CM out as he walked to his bench? What were CM’s actions that Eads saw to feel like he needed to be peace keeper all of the sudden? I didn’t see any indications from CM that there would be problems. Eads had his chance to be the peace keeper while CM was getting hacked and when CJ was being held and hacked at. For whatever reason, Eads didn’t seem to stop it then.

The bottom line is this. There were plenty of actions to stop the game while the clock was running. The refs chose not to. Once the clock hit zeros, Eads jumps in and singles CM out. The players on both sides showed restraint during most of this, if not all of it. The paid adults in the room could learn a lot moving forward so something like this is avoided. This could have been a lot worse than what it was.

 

[kelzer]

Most people are pointing to the dunk as starting this.

But I think the coaches are pissed at Connor because they think he threw an elbow.

Watch the very end replay again, the defender swipes a few times, including what should have been a foul. Connor covers the ball and does a quick, short swing of his arms. The tv angle shows he didn’t make contact. But the coaches had their view blocked and could easily interpret it as having been an elbow to the ribs of their guy. That would explain why they were yelling at him before the handshake line.

After rewatching the end a few times, I'm in agreement with this theory that the assistants thought they saw Conner throw a hard elbow. They didn't have a good angle, so they missed their player hacking Conner hard (with no call), and they missed that Conner caught himself before connecting with his elbow. From what I saw, he definitely started to throw a hard one, but stopped before making contact, and then just lightly put his elbow into the guy.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

Did anyone notice the #11 punk for IL? Not only was he punching at the end, but he also walked over to CJF and tried to rip the ball from his hands after they called their BS TO with 4 seconds left.

I think that is why CJ was ready to "proceed" with the "handshake line"

Keep it real IL!

 

[kelzer]

Did anyone notice the #11 punk for IL? Not only was he punching at the end, but he also walked over to CJF and tried to rip the ball from his hands after they called their BS TO with 4 seconds left.

I think that is why CJ was ready to "proceed" with the "handshake line"

Keep it real IL!

Yeah, I saw that. Douche move.

 

[Franisdaman]

even if he calls a foul everything happens the same way .

I posted this on page1 of this thread. it appears the Illini's beef was with the dunk; Connor and his elbow were not mentioned as to what they were pissed about.

From the Champaign IL newspaper (The News-Gazette):

That competitive edge ultimately spilled over following the final buzzer.

Harsh words were exchanged between players — and coaches — from both teams. Neither side was thrilled with how the final seconds played out in Iowa City, with a Joe Wieskamp dunk with 12 seconds on the clock extending the Hawkeyes’ lead to 10 and Ayo Dosunmu getting a little physical with Connor McCaffery on the inbounds play that followed the former knocking down a three-pointer to cut the final margin to seven.

“I don’t know what happened at the end of the game,” Underwood said. “I think that’s probably more words than anything else. I haven’t looked at the video yet. Two teams that compete. It’s what makes this league special.”

The Illinois players also chalked up the tense postgame handshake line to two teams competing. The Illini staff eventually held their players near the scorer’s table to let the Iowa players get to to the tunnel to the locker room and off the court.

“Being competitive, you just want to win,” Illinois senior guard Andres Feliz said. “Sometimes that’s going to happen. That happens everywhere. A lot of competitions out there. We were trying to win the game. We didn’t accomplish that (Sunday).”

Iowa coach Fran McCaffery called the extracurriculars after the game unfortunate but “kind of a non-story” since nothing major occurred. That doesn’t mean he was thrilled with what happened.

“Every one of those situations come down to there’s two seconds to go,” Fran McCaffery said. “The game’s over. They played to the end. Can’t fault them for that. They played to the end, and then there’s pushing and shoving because a guy gets chopped. There’s no reason to get chopped there. You just go to the locker room.”

Underwood ultimately called Sunday’s game and top 25 matchup — the first with both the Illini and Hawkeyes ranked at the same time since the 2005-06 season — Big Ten basketball at its finest. A careless turnover with 5:15 to play changed Illinois’ fortunes. Iowa tied the game six seconds later, and the Illini would only lead once more after a three-pointer from Feliz with 4:03 remaining in the game.

“We have the one casual play we had all night,” Underwood said. “Against the press, and we throw it to them and a four-point game switches. You can’t be casual in a war, in a battle, on the road in the Big Ten.”

Still, Illinois is more suited for those types of Big Ten battles this season. The same couldn’t have been said the previous two seasons when the Illini went 26-39 overall and were 16 games below .500 in conference play.

“What we had been doing wasn’t working — especially on the road — so we made a change,” Underwood said. “The kids have bought in, and they believe in our coaching staff and they believe in each other. That was an upset locker room after the game, but we left it knowing that there is a lot of basketball yet to be played. That’s what makes me appreciate having this team.”

So don’t count on Sunday’s loss being a roadblock to more success. Feliz, who led the Illini with 17 points against Iowa, had unwavering confidence in his team moving forward.

“We’re going to be fine,” he said. “I know my team. We’ve been through it all. I know we’re going to be fine and we’re going to get back on that winning streak.

“We lost (Sunday), but we’re still in first place. We’re just going to learn from it, and we’re going to be fine. We’re in first place for a reason. We’ve got to come back, watch film, stick together and work together and do whatever it takes to come back on that winning streak.”
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Scott Richey covers college basketball for The News-Gazette. His email is srichey@news-gazette.com, and you can follow him on Twitter (@srrichey).

LINK: https://www.news-gazette.com/sports...cle_5124f988-4608-11ea-bc4a-5714ab718585.html

 

[Hawksfor3]

I posted this on page1 of this thread. it appears the Illini's beef was with the dunk;

If I remember correctly they were coming at Connor pretty aggressively, so he threw the pass.

 

[Franisdaman]

If I remember correctly they were coming at Connor pretty aggressively, so he threw the pass.

it was an awesome pass, too; he kind of flicked it; maybe he should be playing left field and not right field

 

[Hawksfor3]

it was an awesome pass, too; he kind of flicked it; maybe he should be playing left field and not right field

The announcer mentioned that he was a baseballer lol. You know, if Illini wanted to just run out the clock then why did Felize run down and hoist up a 3, after the dunk?

 

[BirdistheWord]

I posted this on page1 of this thread. it appears the Illini's beef was with the dunk; Connor and his elbow were not mentioned as to what they were pissed about.

From the Champaign IL newspaper (The News-Gazette):

That competitive edge ultimately spilled over following the final buzzer.

Harsh words were exchanged between players — and coaches — from both teams. Neither side was thrilled with how the final seconds played out in Iowa City, with a Joe Wieskamp dunk with 12 seconds on the clock extending the Hawkeyes’ lead to 10 and Ayo Dosunmu getting a little physical with Connor McCaffery on the inbounds play that followed the former knocking down a three-pointer to cut the final margin to seven.

“I don’t know what happened at the end of the game,” Underwood said. “I think that’s probably more words than anything else. I haven’t looked at the video yet. Two teams that compete. It’s what makes this league special.”

The Illinois players also chalked up the tense postgame handshake line to two teams competing. The Illini staff eventually held their players near the scorer’s table to let the Iowa players get to to the tunnel to the locker room and off the court.

“Being competitive, you just want to win,” Illinois senior guard Andres Feliz said. “Sometimes that’s going to happen. That happens everywhere. A lot of competitions out there. We were trying to win the game. We didn’t accomplish that (Sunday).”

Iowa coach Fran McCaffery called the extracurriculars after the game unfortunate but “kind of a non-story” since nothing major occurred. That doesn’t mean he was thrilled with what happened.

“Every one of those situations come down to there’s two seconds to go,” Fran McCaffery said. “The game’s over. They played to the end. Can’t fault them for that. They played to the end, and then there’s pushing and shoving because a guy gets chopped. There’s no reason to get chopped there. You just go to the locker room.”

Underwood ultimately called Sunday’s game and top 25 matchup — the first with both the Illini and Hawkeyes ranked at the same time since the 2005-06 season — Big Ten basketball at its finest. A careless turnover with 5:15 to play changed Illinois’ fortunes. Iowa tied the game six seconds later, and the Illini would only lead once more after a three-pointer from Feliz with 4:03 remaining in the game.

“We have the one casual play we had all night,” Underwood said. “Against the press, and we throw it to them and a four-point game switches. You can’t be casual in a war, in a battle, on the road in the Big Ten.”

Still, Illinois is more suited for those types of Big Ten battles this season. The same couldn’t have been said the previous two seasons when the Illini went 26-39 overall and were 16 games below .500 in conference play.

“What we had been doing wasn’t working — especially on the road — so we made a change,” Underwood said. “The kids have bought in, and they believe in our coaching staff and they believe in each other. That was an upset locker room after the game, but we left it knowing that there is a lot of basketball yet to be played. That’s what makes me appreciate having this team.”

So don’t count on Sunday’s loss being a roadblock to more success. Feliz, who led the Illini with 17 points against Iowa, had unwavering confidence in his team moving forward.

“We’re going to be fine,” he said. “I know my team. We’ve been through it all. I know we’re going to be fine and we’re going to get back on that winning streak.

“We lost (Sunday), but we’re still in first place. We’re just going to learn from it, and we’re going to be fine. We’re in first place for a reason. We’ve got to come back, watch film, stick together and work together and do whatever it takes to come back on that winning streak.”
.........................................................

Scott Richey covers college basketball for The News-Gazette. His email is srichey@news-gazette.com, and you can follow him on Twitter (@srrichey).

LINK: https://www.news-gazette.com/sports...cle_5124f988-4608-11ea-bc4a-5714ab718585.html

Shocker, media is biased. They certainly framed it in a way that implies that Iowa was at fault for getting the dunk. No mention of the temper tantrums by the Illinois assistants. No mention of Illinois calling a timeout with 4 seconds left, down 7. And they really sugar coated the hacking of Connor in last couple seconds.

Look, I've re watched the last couple of minutes, and I would say there were some minor things that Iowa did that accumulated and could understand Illini players getting a little frustrated.
Garza seemed to be directing his excitement about his Iowa jersey towards opposing bench after his 3 Bomb. The Weezy dunk. And Connor kind of pulling a bye bye after his long pass that led to the dunk.

I have no idea what was said or not said between players.

But I do know this.

Illinois chose to play to the bitter end, so Iowa has to match that.
Coaches need to be better examples. Its not like Iowa put their hands on someone or anything like that.
There is a reason Connor has the ball at the end of games. Dude takes no Bull$hit from anyone.

 

[Franisdaman]

Shocker, media is biased. They certainly framed it in a way that implies that Iowa was at fault for getting the dunk. No mention of the temper tantrums by the Illinois assistants. No mention of Illinois calling a timeout with 4 seconds left, down 7. And they really sugar coated the hacking of Connor in last couple seconds.

Look, I've re watched the last couple of minutes, and I would say there were some minor things that Iowa did that accumulated and could understand Illini players getting a little frustrated.
Garza seemed to be directing his excitement about his Iowa jersey towards opposing bench after his 3 Bomb. The Weezy dunk. And Connor kind of pulling a bye bye after his long pass that led to the dunk.

I have no idea what was said or not said between players.

But I do know this.

Illinois chose to play to the bitter end, so Iowa has to match that.
Coaches need to be better examples. Its not like Iowa put their hands on someone or anything like that.
There is a reason Connor has the ball at the end of games. Dude takes no Bull$hit from anyone.

I posted that article because people were wondering why the Illini were so pissed at the end of the game and during the hand shake line. The article did not mention Connor. If the Illini were pissed at Connor the beat writer & the article would probably have mentioned him, too. The article, however, only mentioned the dunk.

 

[BirdistheWord]

I posted that article because people were wondering why the Illini were so pissed at the end of the game and during the hand shake line. The article did not mention Connor. If the Illini were pissed at Connor the beat writer & the article would probably have mentioned him, too. The article, however, only mentioned the dunk.

I was not intending to be critical of you posting the article, just of some of the article content. Not surprisingly there is little to no accountability for Illinois assistant coaches.

 

[Franisdaman]

I was not intending to be critical of you posting the article, just of some of the article content. Not surprisingly there is little to no accountability for Illinois assistant coaches.

i posted that article because the author discussed why both sides were pissed. it was just interesting that only Fran brought up Connor (that he was getting hacked when the game was over).

as someone posted above, the Illini were pissed about the dunk yet they came down and shot (and made) a 3. We kept playing (we dunked); they kept playing (they hit a 3).

just a weird ending to a good game.

 

[BubsFinn]

I posted that article because people were wondering why the Illini were so pissed at the end of the game and during the hand shake line. The article did not mention Connor. If the Illini were pissed at Connor the beat writer & the article would probably have mentioned him, too. The article, however, only mentioned the dunk.

Well, the dunk doesn't happen if Illinois isn't pressing. If they back off, we dribble out the clock, game is over, no hard feelings, handshake line happens per usual. Illinois can't complain that we were still trying to score if they are still trying to steal the ball.
I can't find a single thing any Hawkeye player did that was out of line. Connor threw a bit of a shoulder, but only after he was hacked twice with no whistle. At that point, the shoulder becomes self defense. Had Mr. Official not swallowed his whistle, I doubt any of the rest of it happens.