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What exactly is the deep state?

So the IRS is the "deep state" we've heard so much about but it's necessary and not scary at all. Okee dokee.

Why do we call it "deep state" and not just the regular old state? How are they different? Is the entire govt "deep state"?

So many questions.
In regard to the IRS, who's idea was it to weaponize that department back in 09 or 10, or whatever year it was, and have them audit only GOP donors and not DNC donors? That was the deep state in action.
 
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And the new head of the FBI is the top Q conspiracy theorist. LOL

When “theories” come true they aren’t conspiracies. We have criminals running rampant in our federal agencies. They need to be held accountable and you should want that too.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign financed the Steele Dossier, that’s not a conspiracy, it’s a fact. The people who perpetrated this fraud on the American people and gaslighted us over it for years need to be held accountable to return confidence in our institutions.

Democrats aka Deep State folks crime sprees are eroding trust in our institutions.

Why do Democrats hate accountability for criminals?
 
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You serious Clark? Musk has released names of specific employees. Ramaswamy wants to get rid of the IRS (because they went after Trump). Musk wants to eliminate NASA... again he has $$$$ to gain if that happens. They have scrutinized and would likely go after Rivian (another Musk target) and the loan they were just awarded. They want to have large scale firings to go after those who weren't loyal to Trump. Let's stop playing games. If you are fine with DOGE... then you support the Deep State as it's been described in this thread.

Calling BS. Proof?
 
Here's a great example:

The wonderful folks at DOL Wage and Hour just can't take "no" for an answer. They keep trying to drastically increase the minimum amount one can make each week and be on a salary and exempt from overtime.

Time and time again, the courts keep striking them down. The last increase happened during the Trump administration, and that one stuck, because it was a reasonable increase.

So.... Trump = Reasonable; Obama & Biden = Not Reasonable
That's an example of the Deep State? Is the DOL doing it in secret? Doing something you oppose doesn't make it part of the Deep State, at least IMO.

Here is the Mission of the DOL -

The mission of the U.S. Department of Labor is to:
  • Promote the welfare of the nation's wage earners, job seekers, and retirees
  • Improve working conditions
  • Advance opportunities for profitable employment
  • Ensure work-related benefits and rights
  • Protect retirement and health care benefits
  • Help employers find workers
  • Strengthen free collective bargaining
  • Track changes in employment, prices, and other national economic measurements

Isn't trying to allow more workers to get paid for overtime part of their mission?
 
When “theories” come true they aren’t conspiracies. We have criminals running rampant in our federal agencies. They need to be held accountable and you should want that too.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign financed the Steele Dossier, that’s not a conspiracy, it’s a fact. The people who perpetrated this fraud on the American people and gaslighted us over it for years need to be held accountable to return confidence in our institutions.

Democrats aka Deep State folks crime sprees are eroding trust in our institutions.

Why do Democrats hate accountability for criminals?
Fact: Robert Mueller’s team indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies during their investigation.

The Clinton campaign purchased the Steele Dossier from little Marco Rubio. Our next secretary of state, and the person who coined the expression, "tiny hands don." lol
 
The long-term government employees that are 1) are not unbiased in their work and 2) not affected by any change in political leadership. Basically can do whatever they want without any repercussions. Or so it is said
Do you not realize that Frderal employees, particularly those associated with defense have to appear neutral? It’s a requirement.
 
I hear a lot of conservatives talk about this.

Conservatives, what exactly do you mean by ”deep state"?

Without pointing to anything specific, without providing examples that provide evidence of the deep state in action to some significant degree it just sounds like conspiratorial junk.

Please inform me.
The "deep state" is just bloated bureaucracy. With some grifting thrown in.
 
This whole "deep state" narrative of the rightists is fascinating. From my perspective, the patriot act was some seriously "deep state" #$## that rightists seemed to applaud and embrace. Later we had "whistle blowers" like Snowden breathlessly telling everyone "the government is spying on us!!". Yeah... no #$##. This all somehow gets pinned on the democrats as "the deep state".

The deep state is more than just "too much government" to people who regularly use the term. It's dark and sinister. It's qanon level stuff. A secret cabal directly pulling the strings of the government to achieve fiendish ends. The "deep state" extends beyond government.

I will give Trump credit on his ability to create and then control a narrative.
 
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