It didn't hurt Kanen Storr. Some guys are going to win no matter what. Every program has some of them, but I do think it's fair to say that Penn State has more than anyone else.I can agree to a point. Those 8 guys are wired to win. However, the partners from the RTC wouldn't be the same, nor would the coaches in the room nor the emphasis on S&C that Cael may put into his program. I get what you are saying, but the raw material still needs a catalyst most of the time.
Oh, and the fun wouldn't be the same.
What is more important? Recruiting or Development?
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Probably not as good as being with Cael and Penn State. However, maybe not by much?.....as long as they have each other to roll around with?....and as long as JR is not around either?.....these fine wrestlers also seem to operate at a high level outside of wrestling.
Hall started to regress already last year. He wasn't strong enough for 133. Spoon and Hall get a pass from me for this year. That KJ let Downey and the old man influence the room was the beginning of the end. If KJ wasn't so desperate... Downey wouldn't even have been on campus.
And I don't want this to come across wrong, but Jackson got many of the kids to campus because of his race, imo. And I don't blame the parents/guardians one bit for that. There are not very many black HCs in D-1 wrestling. I think the parents may have felt the social adaptation to college might be easier with KJ as the program leader. Unfortunately, he just never developed any consistent results. His choice of asst coaches early on was very suspect.
Disclaimer first I never wrestled in my life.
I am a Penn State grad who saw his first wrestling match as a freshman in 1955.
Fell in love with the sport.
To develop them you have to be able to recruit them. Watching your coaches at a meet and watching Carl at a meet if you were an up and coming wrestler who would you choose to develop your talent?
I am a Penn State grad who saw his first wrestling match as a freshman in 1955.
Fell in love with the sport.
To develop them you have to be able to recruit them. Watching your coaches at a meet and watching Carl at a meet if you were an up and coming wrestler who would you choose to develop your talent?
Another Penn State fan that literally knows nothing about Iowa. Tell the rest of your board to come over and act like pricks
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Sorry if I offended you first and last visit to your board. As for being a prick your mirror is brighter than you are.
Plus your name must be historical or hysterical.
Sorry if I offended you first and last visit to your board. As for being a prick your mirror is brighter than you are.
Plus your name must be historical or hysterical.
Don't worry about it PennState1985. I know you're a class act, and so are several other Penn State fans. Every fan base has some of these fine folks
Penn St does both better than anybody else. They are getting the right guys in the door and the development really separates them. The hardest thing to do is get guys into that 'elite' class. Right now they are doing it better than anyone else.
I think the regional & national tournament circuits, plus all the elite clubs, have really changed the answer to this question in the last 10-20 years.
This...Kolat said it today on Twitter in advocating getting rid of the shirt. These kids are coming ready to wrestle.
Hey Chief - I copied the good parts. I'm coaching a 13 PONY team in baseball and everything there applies especially to kids that think they want to play High School baseball - It is all mandatory to be a level 3 or 4 if college is in the thought process. Thanks - man - I'm sending this to the parents right now
You really can't use that analogy when you are not talking about getting along and excelling in society in a general sense. Here it is about athletic ability. I can't be, coundn't be...lol..., a division one basketball player based on my height and lack of quickness. No amount of nuture was going to alter that fact. Was all about nature. Could I improve, make the most of my skills??? Of course. Be an NCAA champion? No way.
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Exactly.
Suppose my grandmother got hired as a d1 coach, and got Aaron Pico to join the team. They wrestle PSU, and Pico throttles Retherford (as he has in the past).... does that make her a great coach? Or does it mean she benefitted from pulling in a great recruit?
Cael has recruited like no one in d1 wrestling history. Cael's success at development is hard to measure, since most every PSU recruit is the best in their weight class, coming out of HS.
spot on - not sure what is in the water jugs at PSU or under the table for the parents
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