Patrick Mahomes would be an average quarterback in this offense.
Average quarterbacks like Petras and McNamara end up disasters.
Disasters like Deacon Hill end up at Utah Tech.
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Average quarterbacks like Petras and McNamara end up disasters.
Disasters like Deacon Hill end up at Utah Tech.
Iowa will always have more money because of Big Ten so they can surpass ISU in basketball by getting a new coach and outspend ISU in NIL.
Football will be very tough. The Big Ten West is gone. Iowa would need to beat some serious powerhouses to make playoff.
For Iowa State to make playoff they need to field a good team and get a little lucky.
A lot of schools sold their competitive chances for $$$$$. Just accept it.
Football will be very tough. The Big Ten West is gone. Iowa would need to beat some serious powerhouses to make playoff.
For Iowa State to make playoff they need to field a good team and get a little lucky.
A lot of schools sold their competitive chances for $$$$$. Just accept it.
I agree. There are ISU fans who are just as ridiculous. I call them out too. There are a lot of things wrong in our society, and a lack of civility (and foul language) is near the top of the list. We can disagree without being disrespectful.
This is exactly it. Iowa will make more money but I don’t expect many more 10 win seasons. The expansion of the league and doing away with divisions didn’t help any of the Big West teams.
Blah blah blah shut up. Maybe you should wait until this season ends. How many reap it’s do we need with you clowns? Seriously, you guys haven’t done crap. What are you, 2-8 against Iowa in the last 10 years and all of the sudden you are the premiere program.? Jfc get real. And in your next post you claim your women’s basketball program is on par with Iowa? Goodness, we wouldn’t even be discussing women’s basketball if it weren’t for Iowa.
I’ll grant you men’s bball, however. Like I said, I have considered Iowa state the premiere bball program for decades.
You cry about a crude comment. Wha you baby. Seriously, you are circle jerking nonsense all over our board. Gtfo.
Hell, you could argue Iowa surpassed Michigan for a brief period. That didn’t last long.
The Big 12 has nothing left in football. They will get one playoff spot when the sec and big flex on the playoffs.
SCHEDULE!!!
They play nobody!!
CFU took them to very the end, had to get a questionable pass interference call to beat a 4 loss in a row team!!!
C'mon people, way softer conference/schedule!
They play nobody!!
CFU took them to very the end, had to get a questionable pass interference call to beat a 4 loss in a row team!!!
C'mon people, way softer conference/schedule!
This year, sure. It that’s not what he’s talking about in his feeble troll attempt.
I don't think there is any question which athletic department has accomplished more with it's resources over the last decade or so. I'm afraid that the trend does not favor Iowa.
It's official. Face it. The facts are the facts. You can't wish it away or build some fantasy world or makeup some conspiracy theory. Wait, yes, you can do those things, but they won't change the facts. That's the thing with facts. They just are. And the facts are clear: Iowa State is better than Iowa at football and men's basketball. So you can cry about it, or you can do something about it.
Never said ISU was a premier program. I did say they have been getting better under Campbell, and have a "chance" in Big 12 every year.
As for women's bball, ISU has been pretty good over the years with Fennelly, perhaps even better than Iowa overall. The last few seasons with Clark, Iowa has certainly been better Now that CC is gone, I expect things to be more even. Hence my "call it a tie" comment.
As for the other stuff, call me (and others) names all you want. Im a big boy and can handle your insults. I just choose to not act like that and try to encourage others to act in a similar civil manner. Do what you want.
I find it funny, however, that this message board is the ONLY place I see the term "Clowns" used in reference to Iowa State. I just returned from running a few errands. I had an ISU sweatshirt on and no one called me a clown. Internet message boards tend to bring out the worst in people I guess.
As for women's bball, ISU has been pretty good over the years with Fennelly, perhaps even better than Iowa overall. The last few seasons with Clark, Iowa has certainly been better Now that CC is gone, I expect things to be more even. Hence my "call it a tie" comment.
As for the other stuff, call me (and others) names all you want. Im a big boy and can handle your insults. I just choose to not act like that and try to encourage others to act in a similar civil manner. Do what you want.
I find it funny, however, that this message board is the ONLY place I see the term "Clowns" used in reference to Iowa State. I just returned from running a few errands. I had an ISU sweatshirt on and no one called me a clown. Internet message boards tend to bring out the worst in people I guess.
Your women’s program is not on par with ours. And your whole intention of posting in this thread is to comment on the worm turning on who the premiere program in the state is. And seriously, coming over here to lecture us? Get bent clown.
you aren't actually making this point are you? Absolutely, Iowa is a more relevant program, and a single season doesn't change that. Now if ISU gains substantial NIL money that may, but make no mistake, Iowa is more relevant year in and year out to CFB than ISU.
Again, what really matters is right now. ISU women have a preseason ranking of #8. Iowa is unranked.
Iowa had nice run with Clark, but shes gone.
Iowa fans seem to live of history to validate their supposed superiority over Iowa State. I prefer to look at what is happening right now.
Iowa had nice run with Clark, but shes gone.
Iowa fans seem to live of history to validate their supposed superiority over Iowa State. I prefer to look at what is happening right now.
Last year was their best chance to end the huge streak (2004 was the last ISU win over Iowa, I believe). I don't see it happening this year but as we all know, schitt happens.
In my initial post, I said this year their football team is better. Overall, I think their athletic department is better. Program wise, no Iowa is still ahead of Iowa St.
I was saying, it didn’t enter my mind when you brought up head to head recruiting battles.
I don’t think the two athletic departments are close when it comes to execution. If ISU had the same resource dollars as Iowa, I don’t think it would be close.
Matt Campbell this time around will pull the trigger and take the bigger job when offered. He won’t make the same mistake twice.
Maybe but the true football powers are going to cycle through coaches quickly now. Playoff or fired after 4-5 years.
Depends on what he is looking for.
They survived a meltdown against UCF due to a fluke dropped ball at the 1 yard line. They'll get annihilated in the playoffs. Sure, they'll brag every year until the end of time that they made the playoffs, but teams like Texas, Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia, and Alabama will steal their lunch and shove them in a locker.
I wasn’t watching when he dropped the ball at the one yard line, but I thought they just called it down at the one or did they call it a touchback?
Also, so what if ISU gets smoked by One of the powers in the playoff. The same thing has been happening to Iowa in the conference championship game or bowl game.
Nah. He’s got it made at ISU. Weak conference where he will always have ISU in the playoff hunt (and make it at times). Making millions of dollars. He will be able to coach there until he retires.
If he went to one of the big boys and played a big boy schedule, it will be more difficult to get the same results. He knows that and won’t leave unless he is fired.
UCF is on par with Michigan St. Yes, ISU had to come back but they did. Meanwhile, you got pasted by a very average MSU. It's comical hearing the strength of schedule argument. Iowa missed 7 of the top 8 BIG teams this year! If you couldn't make the playoff this year, you never will. Looks like another exciting Outback bowl is coming your way!
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I actually think the Iowa men’s hoops team will give the clowns all they want in Carver this season.
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Hilarious, if his desired transition would be to the B1G or SEC in the current landscape. More so, if there was an opening just down the road, at that time.
However, why does their football team often wear black and white unis, when their colors are Cardinal red and yellow?
Ah, that's my bad then. I listened to Hassel explain it on the reaction podcast after the Iowa game. He had mentioned they gave the ball back to Iowa State, which didn't make sense to me.
However, Iowa football would have a much better chance of going undefeated if they were in the B12 (yuck) vs in the Big 10. The loss to Iowa State was flukey…if Iowa simply continues ball control offense in 2nd half, without Cade forcing a dumb 3d qtr interception. Iowa wins that game.
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Yep…any Hawkeye fan on cyclonefanatic (or whatever it’s called) would be treated worse than you are here.
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Obviously because casual fans are confused and buying Iowa State tickets because they think it’s Iowa. Is that what is going on?
