Which of our liberal posters is NOT on the government dole?

[Metuo Accipiter]

Based on HROT history it is known that many of our resident liberals are either government workers or on government benefits. (not criticizing - just saying) Most people vote with their pocketbook as they say.

And thus, of those libs that aren't on state aid or a government worker - what do you do for a living? And for what type of organization? I'm curious to see if there is any trend.

 

[RockEyeState]

Crickets

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[joelbc1]

I am PROUD to say "I AM!"
Social Security and MediCare......I paid into them for over 45 years and Muteo, if you have a problem with it, I couldn't be happier! You just keep working and paying those TAXES! Just know, I am benefitting. THank-you Jeeeeebus!
Remember Muteo....keep voting for the Democrat and the gravy train will continue!

 

[moral_victory]

Crickets

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Dirpets

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[BioHawk]

I am paid for a service I provide to my community, just like anyone else with a job. Hardly the "government dole".

 

[theiacowtipper]

Based on HROT history it is known that many of our resident liberals are either government workers or on government benefits. (not criticizing - just saying) Most people vote with their pocketbook as they say.

And thus, of those libs that aren't on state aid or a government worker - what do you do for a living? And for what type of organization? I'm curious to see if there is any trend.

How is working for a government being, "on the dole"? Firefighters, police officers?

 

[lucas80]

I sell propane and propane accessories. Hardly on the dole.

 

[joelbc1]

Based on HROT history it is known that many of our resident liberals are either government workers or on government benefits. (not criticizing - just saying) Most people vote with their pocketbook as they say.

And thus, of those libs that aren't on state aid or a government worker - what do you do for a living? And for what type of organization? I'm curious to see if there is any trend.

Now Muteo, would you included businesses and corporation receiving federal/state dollars, tax incentives, forgiveable loans and free infrastructure deals in this question? If so.....I would bet 90+% of us "are on the dole" from the government.
I don't understand your angst here......or really, your point.

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

How is working for a government being, "on the dole"? Firefighters, police officers?

I'm with ya.Those folks are heroes.

Are you a police officer or fire fighter?

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

I am paid for a service I provide to my community, just like anyone else with a job. Hardly the "government dole".

If you work hard a provide a needed service. Thank you for what you do.

 

[moral_victory]

I'm with ya.Those folks are heroes.

Are you a police officer or fire fighter?

Some of them are. Some of them will be. Some of them won't ever get the opportunity. Or am I to understand they get instant hero status by career choice?

 

[dbq hawk 32]

Some of them are. Some of them will be. Some of them won't ever get the opportunity. Or am I to understand they get instant hero status by career choice?

People who issue seat belt citations: Heroes. People who teach our youth: lazy slobs who couldn't get a better job.

I think we all know how this works.

 

[Funky Bunch]

Why not include gov't workers like me who lean right?

 

[naturalmwa]

I work to help capitalists escape taxes by picking winners and losers.

 

[joelbc1]

I work to help capitalists escape taxes by picking winners and losers.

Are you REALLY Terry Branstad?

 

[BABiscuit]

Cemar clone works for the govt (u of I). Always get a chuckle from that.

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

Why not include gov't workers like me who lean right?

I do think it would be an interesting exercise to ask the same thing of our rightes - in another thread of course. I'm curious as to what difference we will see among the HROT partisans.

 

[joelbc1]

I do think it would be an interesting exercise to ask the same thing of our rightes - in another thread of course. I'm curious as to what difference we will see among the HROT partisans.

Oh, by the way Muteo...I just cashed my SS check last Wednesday....Thank-you very much! Keep paying those taxes buddy boy.

 

[moral_victory]

Oh, by the way Muteo...I just cashed my SS check last Wednesday....Thank-you very much! Keep paying those taxes buddy boy.

I hope it was large enough. To be safe I think we should raise your benefits and muteo's tax burden.

 

[naturalmwa]

Cemar clone works for the govt (u of I). Always get a chuckle from that.

So does his wife I believe.

 

[Hawk in SEC Country]

Oh, by the way Muteo...I just cashed my SS check last Wednesday....Thank-you very much! Keep paying those taxes buddy boy.

The faster the baby boomers leave this dimension...the better off we will all be. The most selfish and untrustworthy generation of our time.

 

[IMCC965]

Damn government workers sucking off the teat of the American tax payers. They're obnoxious.

 

[joelbc1]

The faster the baby boomers leave this dimension...the better off we will all be. The most selfish and untrustworthy generation of our time.

Absolutely....and damned proud of it! We have been on the gravy train our entire existence and plan to stay that way...'cause now we have folks in power! Plus SEC.....you have given me another reason to keep on livin' off others! "most selfish"......"untrustworthy".....words for me to live by! I think I'll use them in my eulogy. Of course, I will give you proper credit. BTW.....you can send $$ to Planned Parenthood for my memorial.
Most "selfish" and "untrustworthy".......ha!ha!ha!ha! WE got you!

 

[Gimmered]

I was on unemployment for a few weeks in the 80's during the Reagan recession but beyond that I'm just a regular taxpayer.

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

I was on unemployment for a few weeks in the 80's during the Reagan recession but beyond that I'm just a regular taxpayer.

Do you call yourself a liberal and what do you do for a living?

 

[Gimmered]

Do you call yourself a liberal and what do you do for a living?

I work in manufacturing, and you've called me a liberal so there is that.

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

I work in manufacturing, and you've called me a liberal so there is that.

I called you a liberal? When was this?

 

[Gimmered]

I called you a liberal? When was this?

You and others many times over the last 8 or 9 years. So yes I'm a liberal.

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

You and others many times over the last 8 or 9 years. So yes I'm a liberal.

Fair enough. What do you do in manufacturing?

 

[Gimmered]

Fair enough. What do you do in manufacturing?

I've been a skilled machine operator for 36 years.

 

[swagsurfer02]

Absolutely....and damned proud of it! We have been on the gravy train our entire existence and plan to stay that way...'cause now we have folks in power! Plus SEC.....you have given me another reason to keep on livin' off others! "most selfish"......"untrustworthy".....words for me to live by! I think I'll use them in my eulogy. Of course, I will give you proper credit. BTW.....you can send $$ to Planned Parenthood for my memorial.
Most "selfish" and "untrustworthy".......ha!ha!ha!ha! WE got you!

Times like this I wish your mamma would've swallowed!

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

I've been a skilled machine operator for 36 years.

Awesome. Thanks for the info - we have our first poster stepping forward. By the way - are you a union member?

 

[Herkmeister]

How is working for a government being, "on the dole"? Firefighters, police officers?

DEFINED BENEFIT RETIREMENT PLANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Herkmeister]

The faster the baby boomers leave this dimension...the better off we will all be. The most selfish and untrustworthy generation of our time.

Send me some cigarettes SEC!!!! I'll smoke 'em if I got 'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gimmered]

Awesome. Thanks for the info - we have our first poster stepping forward. By the way - are you a union member?

No, the URW launched a final campaign in 79 and 80. They spent a lot to try to get us to unionize and was beaten by about a 3 to 1 margin. It was their last effort. It is really hard to get support to unionize in a place like Nebraska. It also is very well known that the reason that the plant was moved to Nebraska in the first place was to break the Union plant in Delaware. Our plant would have been closed down years ago had we unionized and we'd be having a whole different conversation today.

 

[swagsurfer02]

No, the URW launched a final campaign in 79 and 80. They spent a lot to try to get us to unionize and was beaten by about a 3 to 1 margin. It was their last effort. It is really hard to get support to unionize in a place like Nebraska. It also is very well known that the reason that the plant was moved to Nebraska in the first place was to break the Union plant in Delaware. Our plant would have been closed down years ago had we unionized and we'd be having a whole different conversation today.

Since you are non union, how do you feel you are treated?

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

No, the URW launched a final campaign in 79 and 80. They spent a lot to try to get us to unionize and was beaten by about a 3 to 1 margin. It was their last effort. It is really hard to get support to unionize in a place like Nebraska. It also is very well known that the reason that the plant was moved to Nebraska in the first place was to break the Union plant in Delaware. Our plant would have been closed down years ago had we unionized and we'd be having a whole different conversation today.

Interesting. The only reason I asked is to see if there was a specific characteristic about your job/career/situation that leads you to vote democrat. Seems to me you can guess a person's political leaning purely by career choice/situation a great majority of the time. But of course there are a certain percentage of people who are truly just social issue voters.

 

[mstp1992]

Based on HROT history it is known that many of our resident liberals are either government workers or on government benefits. (not criticizing - just saying) Most people vote with their pocketbook as they say.

And thus, of those libs that aren't on state aid or a government worker - what do you do for a living? And for what type of organization? I'm curious to see if there is any trend.

My salary comes through a combination of funds: U of Iowa (hospital, college of medicine), NIH grants, philanthropic organizations (FOE, Kiwanis, McDonnell).

 

[Gimmered]

Since you are non union, how do you feel you are treated?

Pretty well actually. IMHO the biggest need for Unions in the first place was for safe working conditions. OSHA made great strides in eliminating the need for Unions in the roll. Now the extreme cost of medical care for workman's comp cases has taken safety concerns for Employers to a level beyond what unions or the government ever could have.
We all wish we had better pay. Who doesn't? But the fact remains, I've raised 6 kids in a safe community on what I've earned there. I got some retirement saved up and will do OK. I've got more say in my own process then most management does. We actually self manage our cells. I really can't complain much.

 

[swagsurfer02]

Pretty well actually. IMHO the biggest need for Unions in the first place was for safe working conditions. OSHA made great strides in eliminating the need for Unions in the roll. Now the extreme cost of medical care for workman's comp cases has taken safety concerns for Employers to a level beyond what unions or the government ever could have.
We all wish we had better pay. Who doesn't? But the fact remains, I've raised 6 kids in a safe community on what I've earned there. I got some retirement saved up and will do OK. I've got more say in my own process then most management does. We actually self manage our cells. I really can't complain much.

Do you mind me asking what type of manufacturing specifically?