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Who looks worse after this loss? The team, or its fans?

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Which way does it fall? Some will say both. Some will say neither. But that is not true. I suspect that because the team performed so badly the emotions of the fans were magnified....I know mine were.
 
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Do you think that is what bothered them the most?
Ohhh the fans? Yeah great question.. I was pretty up and down on the team during the game.. up 24-17 I was thinking good things, when they scored 3 straight TDs I was looking at the schedule wondering how we get to 6 wins
 
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It doesn't look good today, but if we beat Minnesota (somehow) things will look much better.
 
Coaches, officials, fans and team, in that order. Coaches get paid a considerable amount to make sure the team is playing 100% to their ability. Officials are also professionals and should be able to spot when CJ almost gets his head ripped by his facemask.
 
Fans--Team--Coaches Throwing things on the field and not selling out our homecoming after a 12 win season gets the fans 1st place. Don't tell me it's a long drive to the game and we lost to NDS earlier. I'm 76 and had season tickets through the 60s and 70s when we didn't have a winning season. I drove in from Indiana for the games which shows if your a fan you come.
 
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Fans--Team--Coaches Throwing things on the field and not selling out our homecoming after a 12 win season gets the fans 1st place. Don't tell me it's a long drive to the game and we lost to NDS earlier. I'm 76 and had season tickets through the 60s and 70s when we didn't have a winning season. I drove in from Indiana for the games which shows if your a fan you come.
Congratulations.
 
Which way does it fall? Some will say both. Some will say neither. But that is not true. I suspect that because the team performed so badly the emotions of the fans were magnified....I know mine were.
Fans throwing things on the field looked the worst.
Coaches, players, officials are next.
Fans appropriately voicing their displeasure about coaches, players, and officials I have no problem with.
 
Fans weren't throwing stuff because of the team.. it was because of the refs! The team was very well supported by the fans yesterday
 
Fans weren't throwing stuff because of the team.. it was because of the refs! The team was very well supported by the fans yesterday
Actually agree with this. The team looks bad because they lost to a crappy opponent. The fans were just responding to some terrible calls/no calls that even the announcers were questioning. No one is saying Jewels wasn't a face mask, they were just upset that the one two plays (or so) before and just as obvious wasn't called. I have no idea what Jaleel said to the ref, but I'd assume it was something like "call it both ways".
 
Actually agree with this. The team looks bad because they lost to a crappy opponent. The fans were just responding to some terrible calls/no calls that even the announcers were questioning. No one is saying Jewels wasn't a face mask, they were just upset that the one two plays (or so) before and just as obvious wasn't called. I have no idea what Jaleel said to the ref, but I'd assume it was something like "call it both ways".
I think it shows the lack of mental maturity of the refs who were so offended by whatever comments and/or gestures made by Johnson.

I've asked this before and continue to wonder why refs are so lacking in mental fortitude that they can't take some complaints from a player whose team has been the recipient of several bad calls.

I think most officials have a narcissistic personality and love being the center of attention... as long as that attention is positive. You never see a ref admit they called a game poorly. Just once I'd like to see a ref say something like: "yea, we missed several calls. We had as bad a game as Iowa did."
 
I have not yet watched the debacle on tv, but what got me upset is that I felt that the officials were not fair. After identical pass interference plays - not called when done by a NU db but called on us - then two grabs of the face mask on nearly consecutive plays - not called when NU grabbed CJ's face mask but called when Jewell grabbed a face mask, it was clear to me that the officials were deliberately slanting the game. I do not complain that the officials cost us the game - our play has been lack-luster all season - but that the officials did not allow us an equal playing field. Having said all of that, I am ashamed of those fans who threw water bottles. That has no place in athletic contests and cannot be tolerated. But those officials have to be made to answer for what they did on Saturday in Kinnick. That kind of officiating just kills interest in college athletics and has to be corrected.
 
The team. Northwestern isn't a very good football team and that was a team shellacked in Evanston last year by four TDs.

Fans have been patient and reasonable to an almost excruciating degree.

Iowa fans? Best in the world.
 
The head official should have to answer questions after the game. Of course, that will never happen so they have zero accountability to the players, coaches and fans for a truly terrible performance.

The fans are frustrated at the poor officiating and they have few ways to show it. The rotten tomatos analogy applies here, but all they had were water bottles. Be happy it wasn't "Energizer D Cell Battery Day at Kinnick"
 
The head official should have to answer questions after the game. Of course, that will never happen so they have zero accountability to the players, coaches and fans for a truly terrible performance.

The fans are frustrated at the poor officiating and they have few ways to show it. The rotten tomatos analogy applies here, but all they had were water bottles. Be happy it wasn't "Energizer D Cell Battery Day at Kinnick"
Speaking of the atrocious officiating, I certainly hope this crew gets reprimanded. The Big Ten presumably reviews every game and clearly should give this crew their equivalent of an "F". So many blatant non-calls against NW that were crippling to Iowa's chances. It had to be either phenomenal incompetence or corruption. Not a big conspiracy theorist, so I'll go with the former. But this was incompetence that clearly hurt one team's chances to win the game. There must be some kind of consequences for this crew. If it's just business as usual, something is seriously wrong with Big Ten officiating.
 
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Fans--Team--Coaches Throwing things on the field and not selling out our homecoming after a 12 win season gets the fans 1st place. Don't tell me it's a long drive to the game and we lost to NDS earlier. I'm 76 and had season tickets through the 60s and 70s when we didn't have a winning season. I drove in from Indiana for the games which shows if your a fan you come.

dvv, I know how you feel, I drive in from Michigan, 7+ hours for very game. Hate seeing things thrown on the field but I must admit, I was at a frenzy state at that point also.

We got hosed, no doubt about it. It was interesting watching the Refs through my binoculars when we had the I-O-W-A cheer going for over 5 minutes. During the time out they were looking around the stadium and had to be thinking, holy crap these are great fans and are really fired up.
 
I'm telling 'ya, Saturday was payback to Iowa for Kirk's chop block comments last week. Fans booing and throwing things on the field just insured another screwing over by the officials next week. Just watch.
 
Speaking of the atrocious officiating, I certainly hope this crew gets reprimanded. The Big Ten presumably reviews every game and clearly should give this crew their equivalent of an "F". So many blatant non-calls against NW that were crippling to Iowa's chances. It had to be either phenomenal incompetence or corruption. Not a big conspiracy theorist, so I'll go with the former. But this was incompetence that clearly hurt one team's chances to win the game. There must be some kind of consequences for this crew. If it's just business as usual, something is seriously wrong with Big Ten officiating.

Nothing will be done. If it was Michigan or OSU their would be a senate hearing but they could care less if Iowa gets screwed. It is obvious they don't want Iowa getting to the BIG championship game again this year.

With that said, when you give up close to 200 yards rushing and can't break 100 yards, you deserve to lose. Hard to believe Jewel had 16 tackles, where was everybody else. I think we could use Mends' speed at LBer.
 
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Duh..why would the fans look bad..?? The team is losing in the trenches, may only win a few more games at best if that doesnt change soon....
 
Which way does it fall? Some will say both. Some will say neither. But that is not true. I suspect that because the team performed so badly the emotions of the fans were magnified....I know mine were.
Were you on the field?Did not think so question answered.
 
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