Who thinks fran should return as coach next year?
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Is it merely a coincidence all three sons are at Butler and Connors friend plays for dah Fever? Is there a plan behind the scenes? He could come back but I'm suspicious.
There were even people defending Lickliter in his third year ("Patience!", "Cody Larson will decommit", etc.)
Fran hasn't been the train wreck Lickliter has been, so there still has to be some Fran guys left out there.
For a while, I thought Fran had it back to about the Dr. Tom 1990s days, more or less, but lately it feels like it's getting closer to Alford territory. (More like Lick in road games).
Even the Franatic fans are putting down their knitting needles and removing their black and gold blinders to notice the true shit show that is now Iowa basketball.
Remember when we were supposed to be mad again? Now I'm mad he's still here.
Trying to figure out why an Iowa fan would want Fran back. Give him credit for getting Thelwell, but, the lack of defense and rebounding just puts a limit on the team.
Most Iowa fans have caught on and are checking out
Most Iowa fans have caught on and are checking out
Fran's lack of emotion seems very troubling, for the program and for him as a person. It seems odd that we've had so many commitments lately. It's sad that it may end like this. I just wonder if the plan is already in place by all parties involved and everyone is basically waiting for the end of the season.
I really think he's been told to tone it down from above. Probably both he and Marge. And I think he's pissed he wasn't offered an extension. And based on this season's results, he shouldn't expect one this year either. Not without strings attached. Such as NCAA tournament or you're gone.
Piqued my interest as well. Too many second chances. Time to move on and raise the bar.
The man just won’t recruit to have any interior defense nor rebounding. Fundamentals around weak side rebounds are lacking along with help defense that is typically late with no other rotations for help.
If we don’t can 3’s at a ridiculous rate in a game it’s over hence the on the road terrible performances.
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If we don’t can 3’s at a ridiculous rate in a game it’s over hence the on the road terrible performances.
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I suspect you are right about Fran being unhappy his contract wasn't extended previous to this season. I'm sure he feels his body
of work warranted more guaranteed money. The last extension of 7 years with 60% guaranteed was dumb move by Barta.
With Jack heading to Butler and CMAC already there, I doubt the family wants to hang around Iowa City. Jack incident killing a jogger can't be a good memory.
The only question is the buyout, which would have been even bigger if he'd been given an extension. Iowa is under no obligation to buy him out--they could make him coach out his contract. If Fran is a class act, he'd accept a reduced buyout, take the retirement ceremony at last game of season, and move on. Alford is bashed a lot, but he made the move on his own.
I don't think there is anyone left that wants him back.
Did he? I have no sources, but he more or less wore out his welcome. He may have been given an ultimatum and given there was less media/internet coverage, who knows.... But the Pierre Pierce situation probably would have gotten him fired more quickly in these times.
This season was the last straw for me. Same stuff over and over and over - all O, no D. Had teams with All Americans and NBA players and still couldn't make a single Sweet 16. Why would some 4 star recruit be any better? Plus this year's roster construction was bad - somehow only 3 guards in total but only one guy 6-10 or over who is worth a damn? Why did he insist on starting Dembele for so long? Why does he still play him over Tadjo - if Tadjo is that raw, why is he here? How come every other team in college basketball has found the weight room and we haven't? Why is recruiting focusing on wings and ignoring guards yet again?
OK yeah... I wasn't planning to rant that much, but I clearly have made up my mind more than I had realized.
OK yeah... I wasn't planning to rant that much, but I clearly have made up my mind more than I had realized.
Fran saved us from the depths of hell after Licklighter, but the Sun has set on his career here. Bringing him back another year takes the fan base to a new low. Beth has to be looking forward to hiring out of house for her first major sport.
Great turnaround coach with an early visible ceiling if you watched his teams.
All good questions! The outlook does not bode well for our program now that the BT has added much more West Coast athletic teams. We really need to follow the Wisconsin template for winning sans the dirty play….Akin to how Barry stole Fry’s formula for winning in football. 😎
Fran doesn't even want Fran to come back. That's the good news. Whether Fran will accept a deal, demand to be fired and paid every penny Barta put Iowa on the hook for seems to be the only question.
In fact, if Fran WERE to be retained, I would ask why Beth was brought to Iowa City and would suggest she be shown the door. This is what ADs get paid to do . . . make the important decisions and clean up the messes, not hand out long-term contracts like candy. In the next few weeks and months, we'll see who Beth really is.
In fact, if Fran WERE to be retained, I would ask why Beth was brought to Iowa City and would suggest she be shown the door. This is what ADs get paid to do . . . make the important decisions and clean up the messes, not hand out long-term contracts like candy. In the next few weeks and months, we'll see who Beth really is.
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