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Fran’s replacement

Frannies fanny is a little warm right now.

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Frans buyout 4.5 million.

DeVries buyout 3.0 million x 4 years x 0.37% =4.44 million +\-

Total = 8.94 million to replace Fran with DeVries.

This gets him to Iowa plus his new contract. This is the unknown factor.

Someone check my math and DeVries contract.

Does Beth have 9 million dollars laying around?
5,000 more tickets sold each home game would be over $2 million at least
 
If the AD doesn’t do something with making a change. Iowa will be the bottom feeder of the Big Ten! They need a younger coach who is hungry and someone that can work the NIL world! TJ O is 47 Fran is 66! Look at the energy of the two teams! Not even close!

something is very wrong with this team.

maybe Fran has already told Beth what his plans are after this season....who knows....

only thing is, Fran is still recruiting like crazy
 
something is very wrong with this team.

maybe Fran has already told Beth what his plans are after this season....who knows....

only thing is, Fran is still recruiting like crazy
Most of the Nebraska game they looked lost as well. They came back and won. But there was zero reason to get down at home that bad to a mediocre Nebraska team.
 
I'd say they need higher quality players based on what I've seen this year.

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It’s obvious for a message board expert such as me :) to say who should probably not be on a Big Ten roster or at least some players that need roles adjusted/weight room.
Mulvey , Delembee, Pryce, Kingsbury aren’t big ten players.
Payton would be a nice 3rd scoring option on a good team. Harding is a nice spark plug, but not a 30 minute a game guy. Freeman if he had added 25 some odd pounds of muscle would be near unstoppable. Cooper needed a red shirt year. To get conditioned and muscle mass. Traore’s been hurt a lot tough to say, but he’s at least shown flashes of making an impact. Same with Telwell. Dix is clearly the best player on the team. Unfortunately reminds me of Uthoff and gets passive. Differing to others.
 
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First call has to be to McCollum and I think it will be. But Iowa will have competition. He’s gonna get more than 1 high major offer.
The more I think about it, and what he's done so far, even if it's DII and half a season at Drake.. I'm warming to the idea. I didn't know much about BM before today.
 
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If he finishes the year the way he started it…..he will (or should) have a lot of schools after him. Assuming that’s the case I hope we don’t miss our chance.


Would love it for the former Storm Laker.
 
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First call has to be to McCollum and I think it will be. But Iowa will have competition. He’s gonna get more than 1 high major offer.
Maybe.

But I worry a bit that his success this year is built on the foundation (and players) that DeVries left behind. He did great at Northwest Missouri State for an extended period, but that was D-2. In a perfect world, I’d like to see him demonstrate the ability to sustain success at the D-1 level before elevating him to a bigger stage.

If he wasn’t an Iowa native coaching less than 2 hours away from Iowa City, would we be talking about him?

Convince me that my concerns are unfounded.
 
Maybe.

But I worry a bit that his success this year is built on the foundation (and players) that DeVries left behind. He did great at Northwest Missouri State for an extended period, but that was D-2. In a perfect world, I’d like to see him demonstrate the ability to sustain success at the D-1 level before elevating him to a bigger stage.

If he wasn’t an Iowa native coaching less than 2 hours away from Iowa City, would we be talking about him?

Convince me that my concerns are unfounded.
He is not using players DeVries left behind, for one thing.

He’s young and HIGHLY successful…over a long period of time. He obviously knows how to coach.

Would that translate to Iowa and the Big 10? Maybe, maybe not. We won’t know until he is given a chance. If he continues to do well at Drake, he WILL get better offers. I would rather he get that chance with the Hawks, first.
 
Maybe.

But I worry a bit that his success this year is built on the foundation (and players) that DeVries left behind. He did great at Northwest Missouri State for an extended period, but that was D-2. In a perfect world, I’d like to see him demonstrate the ability to sustain success at the D-1 level before elevating him to a bigger stage.

If he wasn’t an Iowa native coaching less than 2 hours away from Iowa City, would we be talking about him?

Convince me that my concerns are unfounded.
Well, Bo Ryan's only head coaching experience was at the DIII level (he won multiple national titles there) when Wisconsin hired him. Turned out pretty good. McCollum has several DII titles. Seems like a similar comp. There are no guarantees, obviously. Guy seems like he's a good coach, though.

I had the same concerns about following Devries, but someone pointed out to me that apparently McCollum brought a lot of his own players, and that Devries didn't leave a lot behind. I don't follow Drake's roster very closely, though. But if true, McCollum may not be benefitting as much from Devries leftovers as I initially had assumed.
 
OSU doesn't look good after hiring Diebler. I don't mind Gatens as head coach to finish year but there is no way to know how he
is with Marketing, managing NIL, putting together a system that is recruitable at Iowa, etc. ISU of course did take a couple chances...1st with Hoiberg...mostly successful and then hugely successful with TJ Otzelberger and Moneyball defensive team. ISU did have a couple big flameouts, though McDermott has some back breaks and has done well at Creighton.

I'm all for hiring a younger head coach and not paying top Dollar and instead put more money into NIL. Ticket surcharge for NIL, while lowering base price to keep ticket price the same. The lost revenue, you save by not Paying FRan and his staff $5 million or so they get.
I agree with most of your post, but getting fans to pay an extra $5.00 for an NIL surcharge when we can't get any people in the place now wouldnt be the answer.
 
Maybe.

But I worry a bit that his success this year is built on the foundation (and players) that DeVries left behind. He did great at Northwest Missouri State for an extended period, but that was D-2. In a perfect world, I’d like to see him demonstrate the ability to sustain success at the D-1 level before elevating him to a bigger stage.

If he wasn’t an Iowa native coaching less than 2 hours away from Iowa City, would we be talking about him?

Convince me that my concerns are unfounded.
McCollum brought in several of his own players correct? Your concerns aren’t unfounded. He didn’t step in with a loaded roster per say either.
 
I agree with most of your post, but getting fans to pay an extra $5.00 for an NIL surcharge when we can't get any people in the place now wouldnt be the answer.
OSU just beat #11 Purdue at Mackey! When was the last time Fran won at Purdue!
 
The more I think about it, and what he's done so far, even if it's DII and half a season at Drake.. I'm warming to the idea. I didn't know much about BM before today.
I have watched several Drake games and noticed the following: tough defense, rebound, spread the floor, great passing, and mentally tough, and not one "hero", just teamwork.
 
Maybe.

But I worry a bit that his success this year is built on the foundation (and players) that DeVries left behind. He did great at Northwest Missouri State for an extended period, but that was D-2. In a perfect world, I’d like to see him demonstrate the ability to sustain success at the D-1 level before elevating him to a bigger stage.

If he wasn’t an Iowa native coaching less than 2 hours away from Iowa City, would we be talking about him?

Convince me that my concerns are unfounded.
I think there is only one Drake player from last year getting any time on the court.
 
Maybe.

But I worry a bit that his success this year is built on the foundation (and players) that DeVries left behind. He did great at Northwest Missouri State for an extended period, but that was D-2. In a perfect world, I’d like to see him demonstrate the ability to sustain success at the D-1 level before elevating him to a bigger stage.

If he wasn’t an Iowa native coaching less than 2 hours away from Iowa City, would we be talking about him?

Convince me that my concerns are unfounded.
I follow a lot of college bball insiders and his name is already being connected to places like IU, Minnesota, Miami, VA…places where there is anticipation of coaching changes. He’s respected within coaching circles. Better get him now than in 3 years when the competition will be even stiffer.
 
Sorry posted this on another thread but added a few names. In no particular order Bryce Dew at Grand Canyon or Shaka Smart Marquette, Kevin Young BYU, Calipari Arkansas, Kyle Smith Washington St.
 
If Iowa can't get DeVries or it just isn't financially viable for them to do so, the next call has to go to McCullom.

He obviously is a great coach- you don't win 4 national titles at any level and not know what you are doing. As a NWMS alum, I was starting to wonder if he was every going to make the jump or if he was just happy in Maryville. He could have left way sooner than he did and had plenty of suitors.

There are zero guarantees in CBB but I could see him doing a Bo Ryan type thing in Iowa City. His style of BB is a little bit of a 180 for Iowa fans if you have never watched his teams. They put a giant emphasis on valuing the ball and valuing possessions. They also play intense defense and rebound, but above all they are mentally tough as nails. He also isn't taking over a loaded roster as 3 of his Drake starters were NWMS players.

The real only worry is his recruiting connections at this level but some of that depends on how much weight Iowa wants to throw behind the program and him.

Drake is 17-2 and alone in second place of the MVC currently. Problem for them is they will more than likely have to win the conference tournament to get a bid.

My 2 cents having watched his teams for a long time.
 
If Iowa can't get DeVries or it just isn't financially viable for them to do so, the next call has to go to McCullom.

He obviously is a great coach- you don't win 4 national titles at any level and not know what you are doing. As a NWMS alum, I was starting to wonder if he was every going to make the jump or if he was just happy in Maryville. He could have left way sooner than he did and had plenty of suitors.

There are zero guarantees in CBB but I could see him doing a Bo Ryan type thing in Iowa City. His style of BB is a little bit of a 180 for Iowa fans if you have never watched his teams. They put a giant emphasis on valuing the ball and valuing possessions. They also play intense defense and rebound, but above all they are mentally tough as nails. He also isn't taking over a loaded roster as 3 of his Drake starters were NWMS players.

The real only worry is his recruiting connections at this level but some of that depends on how much weight Iowa wants to throw behind the program and him.

Drake is 17-2 and alone in second place of the MVC currently. Problem for them is they will more than likely have to win the conference tournament to get a bid.

My 2 cents having watched his teams for a long time.
Thanks for your input! Good information!
 
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Well, Bo Ryan's only head coaching experience was at the DIII level (he won multiple national titles there) when University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee hired him. Turned out pretty good. McCollum has several DII titles. Seems like a similar comp. There are no guarantees, obviously. Guy seems like he's a good coach, though.
 
If Iowa can't get DeVries or it just isn't financially viable for them to do so, the next call has to go to McCullom.

He obviously is a great coach- you don't win 4 national titles at any level and not know what you are doing. As a NWMS alum, I was starting to wonder if he was every going to make the jump or if he was just happy in Maryville. He could have left way sooner than he did and had plenty of suitors.

There are zero guarantees in CBB but I could see him doing a Bo Ryan type thing in Iowa City. His style of BB is a little bit of a 180 for Iowa fans if you have never watched his teams. They put a giant emphasis on valuing the ball and valuing possessions. They also play intense defense and rebound, but above all they are mentally tough as nails. He also isn't taking over a loaded roster as 3 of his Drake starters were NWMS players.

The real only worry is his recruiting connections at this level but some of that depends on how much weight Iowa wants to throw behind the program and him.

Drake is 17-2 and alone in second place of the MVC currently. Problem for them is they will more than likely have to win the conference tournament to get a bid.

My 2 cents having watched his teams for a long time.
The way Drake plays bball gives me Lick era nightmares.....slow boring style
 
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The way Drake plays bball gives me Lick era nightmares.....slow boring style

Except McCollum wins (and yes I know Lick did have one Sweet 16, as did Alford for that matter, before they joined IA). I've watched Drake and it's anything but boring in my opinion. It's a well crafted and executed efficient game of basketball. A thing of beauty IMO.

I'd rather have 15 points less a game (Drake vs IA avg ppg this year) and achieve in-season and tournament success than vice versa.
 
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The way Drake plays bball gives me Lick era nightmares.....slow boring style
I have to disagree, not at all like Lickliter teams. TDrake plays tough defense, moves the ball on offense, fast break when opportunity, and tends to take what other team will give them on offense. Lickliter tended to play hide the ball on offense and they really never had any identity. Drake is enjoyable to watch if you like a well-coached "team" on both ends of the court. JMO
 
Posted this in the other thread about names to keep an eye on. Just keep in mind that Fran came from Siena, UNC Greensboro, and Lehigh.......we don't have to limit our search to someone who has had power conference coaching.


In all seriousness, it looks like Iowa missed the boat by at least a year if they were looking to make a real splash hire. Most of the big up-and-coming names have already taken the jump up to their next job. Guys like DeVries to West Virginia, Dusty May to Michigan and Mark Byington to Vanderbilt.


But here's a few other names Iowa should probably keep an eye on:

Donte Jackson (Grambling State)
Chris Gerlufson (San Francisco)
Kenny Blakeney (Howard)
Drew Valentine (Loyola, Chicago)
Robert Jones (Norfolk State)
 
Except McCollum wins (and yes I know Lick did have one Sweet 16, as did Alford for that matter, before they joined IA). I've watched Drake and it's anything but boring in my opinion. It's a well crafted and executed efficient game of basketball. A thing of beauty IMO.

I'd rather have 15 points less a game (Drake vs IA avg ppg this year) and achieve in-season and tournament success than vice versa.

I would add,

Fran's style has a lot of frustration. Racing back the other way to try to score after you have given up a made basket, extending the press so you give up uncontested layups but speed up the flow of the game. Putting out a lineup with 5 guys that can shoot/score but being totally outmatched on defense/boards. The idea that Fran is an offensive genius is overdone---he is consistently at the top of the B1G in scoring because he's traded off every thing to maximize scoring and is consistently at the bottom of the B1G in defensive stats.

No one seems to be playing Slow-Ball anymore. Even Butler which is the home of slowball has evolved and so has Wisconsin. The new slowball is Iowa States style where they put out a lineup of Elite Defenders/scorers and make it tough to score on them. I'll take winning
and holding opponents in the 60's vs what we've got going on right now.

McCollum sounds like a great fit for us. Power conference retread Coaches like Collins and McDermott are not going to be wanting to give up their own situations for a school that is in Flux like Iowa. They'll cost a lot more and will put the budget in a bind and both those guys lack the energy they had 10 years ago.
 
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I wold add,

Fran's style has a lot of frustration. Racing back the other way to try to score after you have given up a made basket, extending the press so you give up uncontested layups but speed up the flow of the game. Putting out a lineup with 5 guys that can shoot/score but being totally outmatched on defense/boards. The idea that Fran is an offensive genius is overdone---he is consistently at the top of the B1G in scoring because he's traded off every thing to maximize scoring and is consistently at the bottom of the B1G in defensive stats.

No one seems to be playing Slow-Ball anymore. Even Butler which is the home of slowball has evolved and so has Wisconsin. The new slowball is Iowa States style where they put out a lineup of Elite Defenders/scorers and make it tough to score on them. I'll take winning
and holding opponents in the 60's vs what we've got going on right now.

McCollum sounds like a great fit for us. Power conference retread Coaches like Collins and McDermott are not going to be wanting to give up their own situations for a school that is in Flux like Iowa. They'll cost a lot more and will put the budget in a bind and both those guys lack the energy they had 10 years ago.
Yeah, his system is just a trade off that doesn't really work any better than playing normal basketball where you try to play defense too.
 
I agree with most of your post, but getting fans to pay an extra $5.00 for an NIL surcharge when we can't get any people in the place now wouldnt be the answer.

You lower Ticket Prices by $5 and put a $5 surcharge for NIL, revenue neutral at start, but you get more for NIL and ultimately better talent, more wins, more fans., more revenue IF you get a better team.

I think there are a lot of things that can be done to improve attendance/improve the home court advantage. We gotta have smarter people in charge though. Our AD was smart enough to get rid of Brian Ferentz. Whether she can make good hires for B-ball and to eventually replace Kirk is the million dollar question.
 
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