Why are people saying Trumps convictions for fraud might/should be thrown out?
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Only scared little morons are worried about him not leaving office.
He might now follow every rule in the book, but I'll place a bet with anyone right now that thinks this will happen.
I'll add to that, that the DOJ will be getting a new AG and that AG may investigate the actions of the Judge in question. 🤷♀️
Mulaney pt it perfectly when he said Trump is like what a poor man envisions in a rich man.
Or people who,paid attention to his behavior four years ago and feel he is even more emboldened and aggrieved now. As are his supporters. It would be foolish to put anything past him.
The Hunter trial happened because Trump wanted it to happen. What he was convicted of, never even gets to trial, let alone conviction.
He is not presently a convicted felon. He hasn’t been sentenced, and appeals have not been exhausted. If Trump dies today, he dies as a non-convict.
The good old Roman outlaw Senator Titus Adironicus or whatever his site handle is just cant get over the fact that his butt buddy trump is a felon.
The technical answer here is that there are fair questions whether very general consumer fraud statutes were intended to be used for this sort of thing, particularly where the underlying transaction involved sophisticated and ultimately satisfied parties.
The practical one is that by upholding the conviction you walk into a constitutional crisis given his current and near term status. Often courts find procedural excuses to avoid those sorts of things.
The hard one for the court is, if they do want to say this is outside the scope of the law, how do you do it without setting a precedent that ties the hands of the ag in the future. Often these laws are sort of “last resort” tools for new types of misconduct.
Trump already tried indicting those people in his first term or at least wanting to and even his yes man Justice Dept people said "NO THERE IS NO EVIDENCE" and the one guy was special prosecutor on Biden and everyone else and he couldnt find anything even with the precious Hunter laptop.
And where did the whole Repub impeachment thing go the last two years, no where, because Biden and the Dems didnt do anything wrong. Trump is heard trying to strong arm Zelensky which is why he got impeached.
You Dumpster lovers just totally forget all of Dumpsters shit doings and try to invent crimes by Dems. That is sickening how you drink the koolaid
Personally, though I think he’s a scumbag, I’d be fine with a hunter pardon. There are plenty of actual political actors to inflict collateral damage on without going after family members.
Funny thing about this, in 2014 he was one of the most revered people in the world. He put a R in his political column and he's hated by the same people that once loved him. I wonder what this would be like if he had put a D in the political column?
Johnny Carson was making jokes about Trump in the 80s/90s. Had nothing to do with politics then.
And sadly, Trump will be the first felon in the history of this country to become president. What on earth has happened to this country?
Actually, it is very likely that the 15M Biden voters in 2020 never existed in the first place. If you look at Commies vote count it falls in line with 2012, 2016, and 2024. The 2020 vote for Biden does not fit the trend. The GOP vote over 2012, 2016, 2020, and 2024 all fit the trend. It is the 2020 vote for Biden that looks really "strange"/(fraudulent). Maybe it was to hard to throw in millions of non-existing votes when Trump had 200K poll watchers this time? Maybe those 15-20M voters for Biden in 2020 never existed?
Seriously?
15 million fraudulent votes and yet not a single successful court case? The amount of elected officials and election bureaucrats that would need to be involved in such a conspiracy across dozens of states, yet nobody talked? Nobody leaked?
I can’t believe how far down the conspiracy hole our nation has gone.
Oh yeah, I forget, we rewrote history about that. All the movies, songs, talk shows, news interviews and celebrity parties were all fake news and AI generated.
What? I have seen that charge, working for the government, all the time. It's charged and then gets dropped because they take all those lesser charges and drop them to prosecute the federal charges that carry 25 year mandatories.
Hunter had those charges brought because the DOJ didn't want the more serious charges brought that could not be pardoned by Joe without serious outcry. When Dad wipes the slate, who cares,?
And what a loser Commie must be to get trounced by a convicted felon.
I am laughing all the way to the bank on this, my retirement funds increased 40K in just 2 days of the DJIA reacting to the Trump victory. Under Biden a really good day was around 3K. If a convicted felon makes me wealthier, who cares about you and your issues.
Johnny made jokes about everyone, including himself. Bad example.Johnny Carson was making jokes about Trump in the 80s/90s. Had nothing to do with politics then.
I hate it, but the reality is that the voters knew about Trump's crimes and voted for him anyway.
In my view, that is a de facto pardon by popular acclamation. You can't jail a guy who just won an election, including the popular vote.
In my view, that is a de facto pardon by popular acclamation. You can't jail a guy who just won an election, including the popular vote.
Didn't hunter try to plead guilty to a lesser crime that would then give him immunity for the major crimes? The judge found this and would not sign off on it.
Hunter tried to manipulate the system and he got caught.
I would be fine if Joe or Trump pardon Hunter.
Washington, Jefferson and all the rest of the founding fathers were felons and wanted dead or alive by the British Government. So he's not the first felon. Thomas Jefferson was President of the southern states and was a felon and spent 2 years in prison.
It would go a long ways in the healing if Trump pardoned him like he said he would.
That is not now this works you dumbass. No one apparently tooks civics in high school.
Ok. So let me guess what you believe to be true and you can let me know.
So youre suggesting that his written ledger entries were created to mask hush money payments to a porn start so as to not inform the public as to their true nature. This was all done to protect his election chances and therefor election fraud? Do I have that correct? And that these crimes deserve conviction and punishment?
Serious question. Do I have that about correct? I disagree, but putting that aside for the moment, do I have my synopsis about correct and do I understand the assertions and theory of the case?
One of the candidates for it already stated he was considering 'conspiracy against rights' charges.
I couldn't remember the exact details, but that seems to prove how political the doj was. They threw everything at Trump but tried to let hunter off easy.
That’s exactly how it works, you ****ing twat. Take it from someone who knows an assistant prosecutor quite intimately.
Think you’re confusing Thomas Jefferson with Jefferson Davis.
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Not one mention of what Trump did to get him convicted of felonies? He is above any criticism? But those that hold him to account are disgraceful?
MAGA supporters like you aren’t about law and order, y’all just like to pretend you are.
Like me? That is a first but I will bite. I am about law and order for property crime and for violent crime only. When it comes to white collar, paper work, or process crime, l think you crazy libs are going way way overboard. I would let a lot of this stuff slide... Particularly when it involves breaking bureaucrat created rules.
