So you want to excuse these crimes because they were committed by someone with status?
Judge upholds Trump’s felony conviction, schedules sentencing for Jan. 10
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Commoner wouldn't have a quarter of a million dollars to pay off the porno prostitutes to keep their mouth shut. After they opened them up to Trump in more ways than one.
Sort of like a commoner would not have been charged with the gun crime like hunter was? You mean like that?
It has been entertaining watching @NorthernHawkeye and @The Tradition trying to out stupid each other in this thread.
Such a crybaby. Always the victim:
Days before his second inauguration, President-elect Donald Trump faces the uncomfortable prospect of appearing — in person or virtually — before a New York state judge to be sentenced for his 34 felony convictions for falsifying business records to cover up a hush money payment to an adult-film actress.
The court appearance, scheduled for Friday, offers yet another reminder of the legal woes that dogged Trump as he mounted his third bid for the White House. It also cements a distinction that he shares with none of his predecessors: He will be the first serving president who is also a felon. No previous president has been convicted of a felony, let alone summoned before a judge just days before their inauguration.
While New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan said he will not sentence Trump to jail time, the appearance will be an opportunity for the judge to denounce what he has called the “premeditated and continuous deception by the leader of the free world.”
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“It’s a reminder that we live, politically speaking, in a split-screen America,” said Tim Naftali, senior research scholar at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs. “For some Americans, [Trump’s] legal difficulties were a reason to vote for him because it deepened their sense that they, like him, were victims.”
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“The fact that the procession to the inauguration will include yet another trip to court, it’s consistent with the peculiarities of Donald Trump’s return to power,” Naftali added.
In the hours after Merchan upheld Trump’s conviction and scheduled his sentencing, the president-elect railed against the judge, his political opponents, and the federal justice system that his appointees will soon oversee.
At 8:43 p.m. Friday, Trump complained on social media that he was “the only Political Opponent in American History not allowed to defend myself.” At 7:29 Saturday morning, he was back at it, describing Merchan as “corrupt” and “crooked” and calling for him to be “disbarred.”
The president-elect also lamented that his prized Florida home, Mar-a-Lago, was undervalued at $18 million in a separate New York civil fraud case (“it is worth 50 to 100 times that amount”) and repeated his claim that he had never met writer E. Jean Carroll, who alleged that he sexually assaulted her in a New York department store decades ago. In 2023, a civil jury in New York found Trump liable for sexually abusing and defaming Carroll. In December, a federal appeals court upheld the jury’s $5 million verdict against the president-elect.
At 8:03 a.m. Saturday, Trump posted again, complaining that “there has never been a President who was so evilly and illegally treated as I. Corrupt Democrat judges and prosecutors have gone against a political opponent of a President, ME, at levels of injustice never seen before.” He proceeded to complain about special counsel Jack Smith.
Trump also frequently talked about his legal cases on the campaign trail, describing them as a “witch hunt” and portraying himself as the victim of a weaponized federal justice system, even though local authorities brought two of the criminal cases against him, and Smith, acting independently of the White House, brought the two federal cases against him.
But Trump’s comments Friday and Saturday indicated that winning the election — and evidence that the cases against him may have aided him in the contest — hasn’t changed his message.
Some polls early last year had suggested that a criminal conviction would hurt Trump politically. In an AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research survey in April, half of U.S. adults polled said they would view Trump as unfit for president if he were convicted in the hush money case. Yet Trump also tried to capitalize politically on his seven-week trial, despite often appearing angry and frustrated in court. He addressed reporters frequently, reading printouts of news articles about legal scholars defending him and falsely claiming that “every legal scholar” had said there was no case against him.
After Trump’s May 30 conviction in the hush money case, donations to his campaign surged, essentially erasing President Joe Biden’s fundraising advantage at the time.
The New York criminal case is the only one still dogging Trump as he prepares to return to the White House. After Trump won the election, Smith asked a judge to drop his indictment in the federal election interference case because of the Justice Department’s policy against prosecuting a sitting president. Last year, Judge Aileen M. Cannon dismissed the classified-documents case against Trump, saying — in a decision that contradicted precedent — that Smith had not been properly appointed.
Trump’s case in Georgia, where he and allies are charged with conspiring to overturn the 2020 election, has been delayed by allegations of prosecutorial misconduct. Many experts say it cannot move forward against Trump while he is president.
But even as Trump’s election victory has given him at least a temporary reprieve from most of his legal woes, his expected return to the courtroom ahead of the Jan. 20 inauguration illustrates the unprecedented nature of his candidacy — and presidency.
On Jan. 10, 2009, for example, President-elect Barack Obama stopped by Ben’s Chili Bowl and visited the Lincoln Memorial with his wife and daughters. On Jan. 10, 2001, President-elect George W. Bush visited the Pentagon. But on Jan. 10, 2025, Donald Trump is expected to be in court.
Days before his second inauguration, President-elect Donald Trump faces the uncomfortable prospect of appearing — in person or virtually — before a New York state judge to be sentenced for his 34 felony convictions for falsifying business records to cover up a hush money payment to an adult-film actress.
The court appearance, scheduled for Friday, offers yet another reminder of the legal woes that dogged Trump as he mounted his third bid for the White House. It also cements a distinction that he shares with none of his predecessors: He will be the first serving president who is also a felon. No previous president has been convicted of a felony, let alone summoned before a judge just days before their inauguration.
While New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan said he will not sentence Trump to jail time, the appearance will be an opportunity for the judge to denounce what he has called the “premeditated and continuous deception by the leader of the free world.”
ADVERTISING
“It’s a reminder that we live, politically speaking, in a split-screen America,” said Tim Naftali, senior research scholar at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs. “For some Americans, [Trump’s] legal difficulties were a reason to vote for him because it deepened their sense that they, like him, were victims.”
Follow Transition to 47
“The fact that the procession to the inauguration will include yet another trip to court, it’s consistent with the peculiarities of Donald Trump’s return to power,” Naftali added.
In the hours after Merchan upheld Trump’s conviction and scheduled his sentencing, the president-elect railed against the judge, his political opponents, and the federal justice system that his appointees will soon oversee.
At 8:43 p.m. Friday, Trump complained on social media that he was “the only Political Opponent in American History not allowed to defend myself.” At 7:29 Saturday morning, he was back at it, describing Merchan as “corrupt” and “crooked” and calling for him to be “disbarred.”
The president-elect also lamented that his prized Florida home, Mar-a-Lago, was undervalued at $18 million in a separate New York civil fraud case (“it is worth 50 to 100 times that amount”) and repeated his claim that he had never met writer E. Jean Carroll, who alleged that he sexually assaulted her in a New York department store decades ago. In 2023, a civil jury in New York found Trump liable for sexually abusing and defaming Carroll. In December, a federal appeals court upheld the jury’s $5 million verdict against the president-elect.
At 8:03 a.m. Saturday, Trump posted again, complaining that “there has never been a President who was so evilly and illegally treated as I. Corrupt Democrat judges and prosecutors have gone against a political opponent of a President, ME, at levels of injustice never seen before.” He proceeded to complain about special counsel Jack Smith.
Trump also frequently talked about his legal cases on the campaign trail, describing them as a “witch hunt” and portraying himself as the victim of a weaponized federal justice system, even though local authorities brought two of the criminal cases against him, and Smith, acting independently of the White House, brought the two federal cases against him.
But Trump’s comments Friday and Saturday indicated that winning the election — and evidence that the cases against him may have aided him in the contest — hasn’t changed his message.
Some polls early last year had suggested that a criminal conviction would hurt Trump politically. In an AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research survey in April, half of U.S. adults polled said they would view Trump as unfit for president if he were convicted in the hush money case. Yet Trump also tried to capitalize politically on his seven-week trial, despite often appearing angry and frustrated in court. He addressed reporters frequently, reading printouts of news articles about legal scholars defending him and falsely claiming that “every legal scholar” had said there was no case against him.
After Trump’s May 30 conviction in the hush money case, donations to his campaign surged, essentially erasing President Joe Biden’s fundraising advantage at the time.
The New York criminal case is the only one still dogging Trump as he prepares to return to the White House. After Trump won the election, Smith asked a judge to drop his indictment in the federal election interference case because of the Justice Department’s policy against prosecuting a sitting president. Last year, Judge Aileen M. Cannon dismissed the classified-documents case against Trump, saying — in a decision that contradicted precedent — that Smith had not been properly appointed.
Trump’s case in Georgia, where he and allies are charged with conspiring to overturn the 2020 election, has been delayed by allegations of prosecutorial misconduct. Many experts say it cannot move forward against Trump while he is president.
But even as Trump’s election victory has given him at least a temporary reprieve from most of his legal woes, his expected return to the courtroom ahead of the Jan. 20 inauguration illustrates the unprecedented nature of his candidacy — and presidency.
On Jan. 10, 2009, for example, President-elect Barack Obama stopped by Ben’s Chili Bowl and visited the Lincoln Memorial with his wife and daughters. On Jan. 10, 2001, President-elect George W. Bush visited the Pentagon. But on Jan. 10, 2025, Donald Trump is expected to be in court.
The only reason Trump ran for president was to get out of jail. He derailed the federal cases against him, his lawyers destroyed Fani Willis in order to destroy the case in Georgia, but he failed in Manhattan. Being a convicted felon will always hang around Donald Trump's neck.
So you are a plant to make liberals look stupid. Congrats. You’ve found something for which you possess minimal competence.
LOL - it's hilarious how often some of you morons self own.
Even funnier thagt you're too dumb to figure out why.
Exactly my point. The first step is realizing you have an issue. Good that you're finally getting it.
Just another "first" for Trump! Here's a brief summary of Trump's "firsts": (1) First president to be impeached twice; (2) First president to incite a riot at the US Capitol; (3) First president guilty of dereliction of duty of this magnitude for refusing to stop the Capitol insurrection for over three hours; (4) First president to attempt altering the electoral college certification process by implementing a phony fake electors' scheme and in the process disenfranchising millions of voters; (5) First president to be indicted for felony charges in four separate jurisdictions; (6) First convicted felon in American history to serve as president.
And yet millions of Americans voted for this POS. Our nation is truly doomed.
Resist and stay enraged.
It makes you live longer
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No I'm a plant to make you look stupid. It's really easy to do as you have seen. Every day... all day. Like lemmings marching off the cliff. 🙂
☝️Still hasn't told us why he can support a characterless 34 X convicted felon; identified, admitted, tried, confirmed by a jury and fined sexual abuser; multiple time porno prostitute user, wife cheater (while mama was PG no less) 16 X bancrupt "businessman" and Jeffrey Epstein island mate and cohort ( ok... maybe we roll this one in with being tried and found to have committed sexual abuse.) That's all gotta hurt your Bonespurs love affair... ouch! You do know what people are looked down on in our society more than any others? It's those people found guilty of sexual abuse and pedophile. I'm sure you'd agree they are the scum of society. (or, maybe you don't) So in other words, Trump. And the only people that support sexual abusers and pedophiles are either members of their family or other sexual abusers. Since I highly doubt you're a member of Bonespurs' family, what's that leave? Hmmm... ?? Be proud boomer!!
Actually told you many times. Better Supreme Court justices. Lower taxes. Fewer ridiculous environmental regs. Less cultural rot from the LGBTMAP movement, no tax on unrealized gains, actual enforcement of immigration and border laws, etc.
Well I guess you can hang your hat on the fact that you have some reasons to support a man with absolutely zero character, multiple felonies, is a confirmed sexual abuser, visits porno prostitutes for sex, lies every other word, is a wife cheater, has bankrupted dozens of companies, ran a scam charity/foundation, tried to lead the overthrow of a fair election, and owes three quarters of billion $$ in fines for his crimes... making him a golden blackmail threat. I wouldn't trust someone with that rap sheet to sit with my dog, let alone daughter or granddaughter that's for sure. But hey, you be you. It's probably worth it to you in exchange for those "no tax on unrealized gains". Wow.
Like the American electorate, I reject the veracity of those claims, and at the end of the day, nobody f.ucking cares. But you do you, Nicholas.
Another manufactured case that will be overturned. The judge should face consequences for this travesty.
Who cares if you reject the veracity of those claims. You're just some internet enabler. They are already well documented and have run through the legal system, so whine and conjure up excuses for the deplorable behavior all you want. I get it, the truth hurts and all you are left with at this point are some feeble, enabling excuses and support for people who are the scum of the earth. And WOW! posting pictures of little boys on the internet?? I knew I was right thinking 'birds of a feather' with you, Bonespurs, Epstein, the scummy sexual abusers and pedophile cult. Thanks for proving that. Good job!
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Yeah... always the judges fault, never the convicted criminal. Let me repeat that... convicted criminal. Accountability sucks dude. Bonespurs is finding that out now.
Funny how you dupes rationalize overturning this case only because you think someone else, less notable, wouldn't have been prosecuted. It's not that he didn't pay off a porn star and try to cover it up to prevent damage to his campaign. It's "he's our guy so it should be ok this time".
SMFH
The New York appeals court absolutely destroyed the civil fraud case in their hearing on the matter this fall. Almost zero chance it stands.
This will also be overturned on appeal if it even gets that far. This felony case was manufactured nonsense with a biased judge whose daughter raised money opposing Trump. The entire thing is banana republic type bullshit. That you don't see it is on you. The vast majority of the country can see what some corrupt New York prosecutors and judges have done and it will not stand
News flash! The vast majority of Americans (3 in 5) think Trump was guilty. But here's a kernel of truth you will like. Only 19% of Republicans have a problem with a criminal (felon) being president. As for the felony case, the judge didn't render the guilty verdict, the jury did - a jury approved by both the defense and the prosecution. Sadly, American jurisprudence and the rule of law is obviously very hard for you to accept.
He obviously doesn't understand jury vs judge. The NY legal team, Stormy and E Jean sure do!
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