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Why won't the MAGA folks just admit that Russia started the war?

Could be. That's a different question though.
I think it can be safely assumed by this point that Trump’s default mode is being disrespectful.
They f***ed up in 2014. Obama never took Putin seriously as a threat.
Maybe quibble a little on the degree but I largely agree. Candidly I’ll admit I likewise underestimated Putin as well.

Main caveat I’ll give Obama is that in 2014 he put in some sanctions on Putin/russia, but idk what more he could have done at that point.
 
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What is it that stops them from admitting what everyone else in the world knows is true? What is the basis for their denial?
They are brainwashed daily.

What is that stopped so many Democrats from admitting that Biden was slipping cognitively during his term? What stopped them from admitting what everyone else in the world knew to be true? What was the basis for their denial?
 
They are brainwashed daily.

What is that stopped so many Democrats from admitting that Biden was slipping cognitively during his term? What stopped them from admitting what everyone else in the world knew to be true? What was the basis for their denial?
I can't defend Biden trying to run for a second term. Election fever is a real thing for both the nominee and the electorate. Biden did his job and lower the political tempeture in his first term, but Joe failed to stay in his lane.
 
I can't defend Biden trying to run for a second term. Election fever is a real thing for both the nominee and the electorate. Biden did his job and lower the political tempeture in his first term, but Joe failed to stay in his lane.
Easy to Monday morning QB that now. What about all the Dems on this board during that time? Something kept them from admitting the truth.
 
True, but the major disagreement now is about Ukraine's only option according to Trump is to give up land as well as rare earth mineral rights in exchange for a cease fire in a war they didn't start. Meanwhile Russia gets no consequences for being the agresor. Why wouldn't Zelensky be indignant?
Again, that's true but this thread is about why people don't admit Russia started it when clearly they do. It's a false premise.

Although, after the bullshit from Trump, if we had the same poll again it might turn out differently. Some of the whakos probably would change their vote now.
 
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What is wrong with world peace. We finally that have a president that wants it. Let's give it a try. All the hate on Russia is tv brain washing. Turn in off. Back in the 70's in public school we were taught to hate Russia every year. The liberals won't be happy until a billion lives are lost. Trump wants peace. The greatest president in my lifetime.

Neville Chamberlain wanted world peace, yet him constantly negotiating with an aggressive power seeking to expand it's borders ultimately led to the most destructive war in human history.
 
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Neville Chamberlain wanted world peace, yet him constantly negotiating with an aggressive power seeking to expand it's borders ultimately led to the most destructive war in human history.
Lmao at the Chamberlain references around here.

There has never been a bigger scapegoat in history than him, while the POS, racist war criminal Winston Churchill gets praised as a hero.

🙄
 
Again, that's true but this thread is about why people don't admit Russia started it when clearly they do. It's a false premise.

Although, after the bullshit from Trump, if we had the same poll again it might turn out differently. Some of the whakos probably would change their vote now.
It's about supporting Trump and republicans who won't admit it. The hypocrisy is thick.
 
What is wrong with world peace. We finally that have a president that wants it. Let's give it a try. All the hate on Russia is tv brain washing. Turn in off. Back in the 70's in public school we were taught to hate Russia every year. The liberals won't be happy until a billion lives are lost. Trump wants peace. The greatest president in my lifetime.
Does Trump want peace? Trump wants money. The idea that the Republicans are the party of peace is laughable. The lack of self-awareness from the right is stark.
 
Lmao at the Chamberlain references around here.

There has never been a bigger scapegoat in history than him, while the POS, racist war criminal Winston Churchill gets praised as a hero.

🙄

I'm not trying to lionize Churchill here. He was a war monger who happened to find an actual war that needed fighting. There is a reason he lost the election immediately after he won the war.

He made his name in history however by recognizing the one thing that Chamberlain failed to recognize. And that is that if a leader starts trying to take parts of other countries who have done nothing to his country, he isn't a person who can be negotiated with.
 
They are brainwashed daily.

What is that stopped so many Democrats from admitting that Biden was slipping cognitively during his term? What stopped them from admitting what everyone else in the world knew to be true? What was the basis for their denial?
They did admit it. They replaced him as a candidate. Then when they replaced him the MAGAs went nuts saying Kamala wasn't properly chosen. It's a giant sliding target of random rationalizations from the MAGAs.
 
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@soybean the political hate has clouded your heads, most don’t believe Ukraine started the war and do not support Russia.
If that's the case, why do they support how Trump handled his meeting with Zelensky? If Russia started the war you wouldn't attack the person who comes from the country that was attacked. That was a shit show on a national stage. We lost favor with long-time allies. No objectionable person could say that the meeting went well.
 
If that's the case, why do they support how Trump handled his meeting with Zelensky? If Russia started the war you wouldn't attack the person who comes from the country that was attacked. That was a shit show on a national stage. We lost favor with long-time allies. No objectionable person could say that the meeting went well.
Zelenskyy did it to himself, you can't piss off and continue to insult if you want to make a deal. I posted my views yesterday and today if you want to read. (Outside of the insults)
 
Zelenskyy did it to himself, you can't piss off and continue to insult if you want to make a deal. I posted my views yesterday and today if you want to read. (Outside of the insults)
Zelenskyy attacked his own country?

You just can't help yourself, can you?
 
Zelenskyy did it to himself, you can't piss off and continue to insult if you want to make a deal. I posted my views yesterday and today if you want to read. (Outside of the insults)
He didn't insult Trump!!! He was ****ing attacked from the get-go. If anything Zelensky exercised restraint something that failed Trump.

You're dishonest. No rational person would say Zelensky attacked Trump. Those are MAGA talking points.
 
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Easy to Monday morning QB that now. What about all the Dems on this board during that time? Something kept them from admitting the truth.
My argument was always that Joe was an old man but pushed back against the dementia bullshit because that’s what it was. Nothing from his administration or other world leaders hinted that Joe had lost it. I’m not going to believe Fox and rightwingers on this site.

Compare it, honestly, to the multiple quotes about Trump being a damn idiot during his first administration. My issue with Joe was his ego thinking he should get a second term. That and doing what Trump is doing…putting a political enemy, Trump, in freaking jail. Garland screwed up.
 
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He didn't insult Trump. He was ****ing attacked from the get-go. If anything Zelensky exercised restraint something that failed Trump.

You're dishonest. No rational person would say Zelensky attacked Trump. Those are MAGA talking points.
He mislead or changed his mind and decided to do it on TV along with shaming. What did you think was going to happen?
 
He didn't insult Trump. He was ****ing attacked from the get-go. If anything Zelensky exercised restraint something that failed Trump.

You're dishonest. No rational person would say Zelensky attacked Trump. Those are MAGA talking points.
what are you talking about?

trump is always the victim...everyone is always being mean or dishonest with him
 
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