Will Hillary be indicted? Should she?

[YellowSnow51]

No clue who PJ Media is...it was just the first of many links and looked to be the most detailed.

Opinions on Hillary Clinton's chances in 2016 come in two forms with not much in between: "It ain't happening" and "Hillary's got it locked in." We may soon find out which one of those prognostications is right.

Washington insiders are saying that the evidence in the FBI's investigation into Clinton's "unique email arrangement" has reached "critical mass." The American Spectator's R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. joins former prosecutor Joe DiGenova in predicting that a decision to indict is coming soon.

The charges will consist of some of the following:


1. Improper disclosure or retention of classified information.

2. Destruction of government records.

3. Lying to federal agents.

4. Lying under oath.

5. Obstruction of justice.

There are those who have told me that the FBI has been engaged in a ruse. And that the Bureau will report it has come across nothing criminal. Then the whole imbroglio is expected to blow over.

But such cynics are in the minority. Most sources have told me the investigation is genuine, serious, and all but completed. One told me that it was completed two months ago. The Bureau has put together a case that as one source put it “is locked up. It is solid.”

In the past, as FBI agent I.C. Smith wrote in his book Inside: A Top G-Man Exposes Spies, Lies, and Bureaucratic Bungling Inside the FBI, the Clintons have benefited from a few corrupt agents, usually in Arkansas. But that was years ago, and in Arkansas. This is the FBI in Washington, at the top where there are plenty of utterly professional law enforcement officials. They believe truth matters and so does the pursuit of justice. “They have been building a case that is unassailable,” one source told me. “It is beyond the case against Petraeus.… It is about the violation of federal statutes.”

An indicted Hillary may try to brazen her way to the finish line, but she could be too damaged by scandal to get elected (even by an unscrupulous Democratic electorate). But if she doesn't make it to the finish line, that leaves the race wide open for all sorts of Democrat chicanery.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/1...-indictment-obama-2016-surprise-in-the-works/

 

[THE_DEVIL]

. joins former prosecutor Joe DiGenova

Old Joey was knee deep in the first go 'round with the Clintons. I wouldn't put too much into his opinions. Not saying if HRC will or won't be indicted but this dude is not in any way an objective source in this instance.

 

[Lone Clone]

PJ media is basically a couple of lawyers in Minneapolis. It's a good site. They were the first to debunk the Rather hit piece on Dubya. Some CBS executive dismissed their work as being some guys sitting around in their pajamas in their parents basement. Hence the site name.

Should Hillary be indicted? Probably. She would have been indicted by Ken Starr if she hadn't been the First Lady. He realized he couldn't do it unless he had a 110% airtight case, and he didn't.

If Holder were still the AG, the chances of her being indicted this time would be very small. My guess is that the odds aren't much better with the new girl in town.

What's going to be interesting is the reaction of the DOJ professionals if she skates. Some observers are predicting a revolt. Some other observers think that's wishful thinking.

 

[JordanChase]

Oh looky, it's another con circle jerk thread.

Yep, I'm sure that this is the scandal that will FINALLY bring down the Clintons.

Uh huh. Yep. Sure thing.

 

[icu81222]

Should she? Absolutely. Many have been for much, much less.

Will she? No way. The left is all in on Hillary. She is the best they have. (LOL. What does that tell you?.)

The left/media (same thing) are more than willing to look the other way to protect a democrat. Particularly their only chance to win an election.

This just shows the morals that democrats lack. Sadly, the lack of morals trickles from the top, all the way down to the bottom in the streets.

 

[YellowSnow51]

Oh looky, it's another con circle jerk thread.

Yep, I'm sure that this is the scandal that will FINALLY bring down the Clintons.

Uh huh. Yep. Sure thing.

So far, only one jerk in the circle. I take it by your covering your ears and eyes and pouting at the top of your lungs, that you are in the "NO column". Noted.

 

[lucas80]

PJ media is basically a couple of lawyers in Minneapolis. It's a good site. They were the first to debunk the Rather hit piece on Dubya. Some CBS executive dismissed their work as being some guys sitting around in their pajamas in their parents basement. Hence the site name.

Should Hillary be indicted? Probably. She would have been indicted by Ken Starr if she hadn't been the First Lady. He realized he couldn't do it unless he had a 110% airtight case, and he didn't.

If Holder were still the AG, the chances of her being indicted this time would be very small. My guess is that the odds aren't much better with the new girl in town.

What's going to be interesting is the reaction of the DOJ professionals if she skates. Some observers are predicting a revolt. Some other observers think that's wishful thinking.

Let me sum up:
1. It's a good site because it validates my preconceived notions.
2. Just say he didn't have a case. It's easier without the useless words.
3. I hate Dems, and the new AG has a vagina so no way she indicts another woman.
4. One thing might happen, or another thing might happen.

 

[Lone Clone]

Let me sum up:
1. It's a good site because it validates my preconceived notions.
2. Just say he didn't have a case. It's easier without the useless words.
3. I hate Dems, and the new AG has a vagina so no way she indicts another woman.
4. One thing might happen, or another thing might happen.

1. Have you spent time there? I didn't think so. Ergo, your comment is purely based on your preconceived notions.
2. If one is not a moron, one realizes that "he didn't have a case" is not the same thing as "he didn't have a strong enough case."
3. I don't know about your vagina, and I don't want to know about it. But the gender of the AG has nothing to do with it -- unless you think Eric Holder also has a vagina.
4. This is the only accurate part of your post.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Of course she should be indicted, but she's part of the ruling elite and is therefore above the law.

If you don't think this bitch should be indicted, then you are an idiot party-line homer that is a big reason why this country is so f***ed up.

 

[timinatoria]

Oh looky, it's another con circle jerk thread.

Yep, I'm sure that this is the scandal that will FINALLY bring down the Clintons.

Uh huh. Yep. Sure thing.

You sound very knowledgeable on the subject. Please, tell us more.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

 

[Huey Grey]

No clue who PJ Media is...it was just the first of many links and looked to be the most detailed.

Opinions on Hillary Clinton's chances in 2016 come in two forms with not much in between: "It ain't happening" and "Hillary's got it locked in." We may soon find out which one of those prognostications is right.

Washington insiders are saying that the evidence in the FBI's investigation into Clinton's "unique email arrangement" has reached "critical mass." The American Spectator's R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. joins former prosecutor Joe DiGenova in predicting that a decision to indict is coming soon.

The charges will consist of some of the following:


1. Improper disclosure or retention of classified information.

2. Destruction of government records.

3. Lying to federal agents.

4. Lying under oath.

5. Obstruction of justice.

There are those who have told me that the FBI has been engaged in a ruse. And that the Bureau will report it has come across nothing criminal. Then the whole imbroglio is expected to blow over.

But such cynics are in the minority. Most sources have told me the investigation is genuine, serious, and all but completed. One told me that it was completed two months ago. The Bureau has put together a case that as one source put it “is locked up. It is solid.”

In the past, as FBI agent I.C. Smith wrote in his book Inside: A Top G-Man Exposes Spies, Lies, and Bureaucratic Bungling Inside the FBI, the Clintons have benefited from a few corrupt agents, usually in Arkansas. But that was years ago, and in Arkansas. This is the FBI in Washington, at the top where there are plenty of utterly professional law enforcement officials. They believe truth matters and so does the pursuit of justice. “They have been building a case that is unassailable,” one source told me. “It is beyond the case against Petraeus.… It is about the violation of federal statutes.”

An indicted Hillary may try to brazen her way to the finish line, but she could be too damaged by scandal to get elected (even by an unscrupulous Democratic electorate). But if she doesn't make it to the finish line, that leaves the race wide open for all sorts of Democrat chicanery.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/1...-indictment-obama-2016-surprise-in-the-works/

It's impossible to say what will happen at this point. The FBI won't release any of its findings until it finalizes its investigation. Because of this, it's all speculation right now. We'll just have to wait and see. Not much of an answer, but that's where we stand.

 

[Huey Grey]

Of course she should be indicted, but she's part of the ruling elite and is therefore above the law.

If you don't think this bitch should be indicted, then you are an idiot party-line homer that is a big reason why this country is so f***ed up.

So far there is no conclusive evidence she did anything wrong. We won't know anything until the FBI releases its findings. Yet, you're already calling for her head. It's you who the idiot party liner.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

So far there is no conclusive evidence she did anything wrong. We won't know anything until the FBI releases its findings. Yet, you're already calling for her head. It's you who the idiot party liner.

there are hundreds of classified e-mails if not thousands, she has released, and it is wrong to have those on a personal server, illegal. so there is tons of evidence she did something wrong. just nobody has the nads to indict

 

[aflachawk]

So far there is no conclusive evidence she did anything wrong. We won't know anything until the FBI releases its findings. Yet, you're already calling for her head. It's you who the idiot party liner.

There was no conclusive evidence when Karl Rove was in the WH either but I believe you were calling for his head then. And that was much less serious to national security

 

[icu81222]

Imagine if this were Cruz or Rubio being investigated. Imagine the national narrative going on. The outrage from every angle by every newspaper and news show each and every day.

"Should Cruz be disqualified for consideration? "

"What does this say about the desperation of the Republican party?"

I am sure the usual HROT suspects would be "we don't know the facts and there's nothing conclusive, so let's let it all play out before judging"

 

[icu81222]

So far there is no conclusive evidence she did anything wrong. We won't know anything until the FBI releases its findings. Yet, you're already calling for her head. It's you who the idiot party liner.

Yes there is. You just choose to ignore it because it's "your side". You are horrible

 

[NoleSoup4U]

So far there is no conclusive evidence she did anything wrong. We won't know anything until the FBI releases its findings. Yet, you're already calling for her head. It's you who the idiot party liner.

There's no conclusive evidence because they refuse to turn it over. You sound like the republicans who were trying to defend "W" and Cheney. Stop being a party line hypocrite and get on the side of the common man for once.

 

[Huey Grey]

There was no conclusive evidence when Karl Rove was in the WH either but I believe you were calling for his head then. And that was much less serious to national security

You're aware that the investigators of Rove chose not to charge him with anything, right? If this was the GOP, they would have kept charging and charging and charging and charging, even after he was found innocent. Look no further than how the Republicans have bungled the Benghazi investigations.

 

[Huey Grey]

Yes there is. You just choose to ignore it because it's "your side". You are horrible

I find it interesting that you have the same information as the FBI that they rest of the world doesn't. You must be pretty high up on the food chain.

 

[Huey Grey]

There's no conclusive evidence because they refuse to turn it over. You sound like the republicans who were trying to defend "W" and Cheney. Stop being a party line hypocrite and get on the side of the common man for once.

Interesting. So you freely admit that there is no conclusive evidence yet are ready to get the rope.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Look no further than how the Republicans have bungled the Benghazi investigations.

agreed, if Hillary was not jailed for getting an American ambassador killed, then covering it up and lying talking about a youtube vid, slam dunk there, if they can bungle that they can bungle anything

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Interesting. So you freely admit that their is not conclusive evidence yet are ready to get the rope.

No, I want them to have to comply with the courts, which they refuse to do.

 

[Huey Grey]

agreed, if Hillary was not jailed for getting an American ambassador killed, then covering it up and lying talking about a youtube vid, slam dunk there, if they can bungle that they can bungle anything

Actually I meant bungle their response to the news that she did nothing wrong. Instead of being grownups and moving on, they did another investigation. Then another. Then another. Then another. Then another. With each one finding the same exact thing. Hillary didn't do anything wrong...It's getting embarrassing that the GOP keeps failing at these attempts, just like their 62 failed attempts to repeal Obamacare, yet keep pushing their chips back in.

 

[Huey Grey]

No, I want them to have to comply with the courts, which they refuse to do.

You have this confused. It's the FBI refusing to cooperate with the courts.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-emails-fbi-refuses-cooperate-serve/?page=all

 

[Lone Clone]

Interesting. So you freely admit that there is no conclusive evidence yet are ready to get the rope.

Red, the woman has acknolwedged doing things that are against the law. She's claiming her intent was good and denying she violated the law, but she had admitted the actions in question.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

You have this confused. It's the FBI refusing to cooperate with the courts.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-emails-fbi-refuses-cooperate-serve/?page=all

They aren't the only ones. Nobody at the federal level ever cooperates, and they're allowed to do whatever they want. If this were one of us, we would have been thrown in jail for obstruction already.

 

[Lone Clone]

Actually I meant bungle their response to the news that she did nothing wrong. Instead of being grownups and moving on, they did another investigation. Then another. Then another. Then another. Then another. With each one finding the same exact thing. Hillary didn't do anything wrong...It's getting embarrassing that the GOP keeps failing at these attempts, just like their 62 failed attempts to repeal Obamacare, yet keep pushing their chips back in.

The Benghazi investigation is not yet completed. I think you're getting an entire team of horses ahead of the cart here.

 

[Huey Grey]

The Benghazi investigation is not yet completed. I think you're getting an entire team of horses ahead of the cart here.

We've had 6 concluded investigations, 13 concluded hearings, and have spent as much time on Benghazi as we did with all of 9/11 and yet Benghazi still somehow not completed? You can't seriously buy into that.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

The Benghazi investigation is not yet completed. I think you're getting an entire team of horses ahead of the cart here.

yes, see , we are all supposed to bow down and kiss her feet and rejoice at the "news" that she did nothing wrong. see, we bungled the news from the three kings that came across the desert and said there is a Hillary in the manger and light in the sky and she is innocent and immaculate. we bungled that badly.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

We've had 6 concluded investigations, 13 concluded hearings, and have spent as much time on Benghazi as we did with all of 9/11 and yet Benghazi still somehow not completed? You can't seriously buy into that.

why have they not figured out 9-11 yet by now? how did bldg. 7 come down with no plane hitting it? how did bin laden do this from death bed? why did bush go after Iraq when everyone said it was Saudi? why is there a missle sized hole in the pentagon where a big 747 hit?

 

[Huey Grey]

Surely even the most partisan of conservatives has to agree that the GOP has a bad track record of refusing to accept findings.

62 failed Obamacare repeals
6 failed Benghazi investigations
Dozens of failed Planned Parenthood investigations.

It's quite clear that the Republicans have a problem accepting facts. Hold a few repeal votes. Hold a few investigations. But if the outcome doesn't go your way, move on. It's just idiotic to keep wasting time and money on this stuff when you already know the results.

 

[Huey Grey]

yes, see , we are all supposed to bow down and kiss her feet and rejoice at the "news" that she did nothing wrong. see, we bungled the news from the three kings that came across the desert and said there is a Hillary in the manger and light in the sky and she is innocent and immaculate. we bungled that badly.

For chrissake, Hillary just underwent a 13 hours of intense interviews a few months ago over Benghazi and what was the result? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Even Gowdy admitted that they didn't find anything new. What's up with the GOP and beating dead horses? Can't you guys come up with any new ideas besides going after old and fruitless issues?

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Surely even the most partisan of conservatives has to agree that the GOP has a bad track record of refusing to accept findings.

62 failed Obamacare repeals
6 failed Benghazi investigations
Dozens of failed Planned Parenthood investigations.

It's quite clear that the Republicans have a problem accepting facts. Hold a few repeal votes. Hold a few investigations. But if the outcome doesn't go your way, move on. It's just idiotic to keep wasting time and money on this stuff when you already know the results.

yes, we are all mad at them for not yet getting rid of that horrible aca, but when we have a repubber in the wh along with repubber congress, I am sure we can take care of that monster. as far as Hillary goes: we are in the beginning stages of this. why rush it? gotta crawl before ye can walk.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

For chrissake, Hillary just underwent a 13 hours of intense interviews a few months ago over Benghazi and what was the result? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Even Gowdy admitted that they didn't find anything new. What's up with the GOP and beating dead horses? Can't you guys come up with any new ideas besides going after old and fruitless issues?

more to come. hope she goes to the bathroom in advance this time.

 

[soybean]

No. And no.

Joe DiGenova is simply trying to relight his fizled caeer as a FOX talking head with this snipe hunt. It will certainly energize the usual suspects in the right wing conspriracy world, but its going nowhere.

 

[Huey Grey]

yes, we are all mad at them for not yet getting rid of that horrible aca, but when we have a repubber in the wh along with repubber congress, I am sure we can take care of that monster. as far as Hillary goes: we are in the beginning stages of this. why rush it? gotta crawl before ye can walk.

JFC. No, you won't. Even if you get a Republican President, Republican House, and Republican Senate, the ACA isn't going anywhere. And do you know why? Because the GOP can't come up with an alternative. They've have 6 years now to craft one. Where is it? Admit it. The GOP is good at bitching about stuff, but are lousy in finding solutions.

 

[Huey Grey]

more to come. hope she goes to the bathroom in advance this time.

Sorry. There will be no more Benghazi investigations. GOP came away with egg on their face the last time. I don't envision them being in a hurry to look like a bunch of crybabies again.

 

[soybean]

The Benghazi investigation is not yet completed. I think you're getting an entire team of horses ahead of the cart here.

And in your mind it will never be completed.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

JFC. No, you won't. Even if you get a Republican President, Republican House, and Republican Senate, the ACA isn't going anywhere. And do you know why? Because the GOP can't come up with an alternative. They've have 6 years now to craft one. Where is it? Admit it. The GOP is good at bitching about stuff, but are lousy in finding solutions.

don't need an alternative to a criminal horrible plan. that's like saying instead of robbing banks we shall now rob liquor stores, from now on. go back to the fine system we had prior to the ruination of the insurance, by Obama.