Will the 2017 season be forever remembered as the "Minnesota Screw Job?"

[Franisdaman]

I have heard several people say that had Iowa won that game they would be in the NCAA Tournament regardless of how they did in the big 10 tournament.

I understand refs missing calls for both sides. HOWEVER, missing TWO calls in ONE SHORT SEQUENCE?

Will that ref who blew TWO CALLS in ONE SHORT SEQUENCE go down in history with Jim Bain and Teddy V?

 

[Underscore2]

No because a win at home against Illinois, beating Omaha, winning at Nebby, or beating Indiana in the B1G tournament first round, would have put Iowa in the last 4 in range.

Beating Minny at home, or winning more games in the B1G tournament, in addition to the above, could have made Iowa safely in.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

I don't think that game be the only memory.


Chris Beaver will never be able to live it down. Every time he refs in Iowa City I'm sure the fans won't let him forget it

 

[StormHawk42]

No. Had plenty of chances elsewhere. I'll probably remember getting blown out by IU with the NCAA on the line more.

 

[BeardedAxeWound]

No because a win at home against Illinois, beating Omaha, winning at Nebby, or beating Indiana in the B1G tournament first round, would have put Iowa in the last 4 in range.

Beating Minny at home, or winning more games in the B1G tournament, in addition to the above, could have made Iowa safely in.

Except Iowa fairly lost all those games except for one. Which very likely ended up costing them a trip to the NCAAs. See if you can spot the outlier.

 

[Underscore2]

Except Iowa fairly lost all those games except for one. Which very likely ended up costing them a trip to the NCAAs. See if you can spot the outlier.

So the refs didn't miss any calls for those games? Interesting.

 

[HeRKeYHoPeFuL]

I think it will be. People on here still remember Marble getting clobbered shooting a 3 in the BTT with a no call from Teddy Valentine 4 years ago...

 

[hawkeyeinmo]

Well, I think that blunder will lead to rule change allowing a review on player out of bounds. Only makes sense if you can review who the ball went out of bounds on or a toe on the 3 point line you surely should be able to review this call. If the intent of review is to do all they can to "get it right' they should change this rule and will forever be known as the "Gopher screw job" rule.

 

[Hawksfor3]

I have heard several people say that had Iowa won that game they would be in the NCAA Tournament regardless of how they did in the big 10 tournament.

I understand refs missing calls for both sides. HOWEVER, missing TWO calls in ONE SHORT SEQUENCE?

Will that ref who blew TWO CALLS in ONE SHORT SEQUENCE go down in history with Jim Bain and Teddy V?

I'm over the Minnesota game. What bothers the hell out of me is Indiana blowing us out in the first round of BTT. And then, they looked crappy against Wisky (a team we beat). Think the first round blues will end next year? Stay tuned........

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Nah.
It was fun to watch at times, a hot mess at others.
One game doesn't define this season.

 

[Suterman]

I certainly won't remember this season by the Minnesota game. Not even close.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

No. Had plenty of chances elsewhere. I'll probably remember getting blown out by IU with the NCAA on the line more.

Really? I've already forgotten about it. Who'd we play in the 1st round?.....

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

I certainly won't remember this season by the Minnesota game. Not even close.

But it's more fun to blame the Gophers.

 

[Goldteam]

Gopher fan here!

Cody Poock, gopher linebacker says, "HI"

There might be one person who gets this. Explain it to them.

 

[IamHawkeye]

No. Had plenty of chances elsewhere. I'll probably remember getting blown out by IU with the NCAA on the line more.

I think the conference tournaments are of no use. I think they started in the south which makes them even more useless in my book as at that time the south thought basketball was something going on until spring football started.. Sure it was fun when Iowa won it that first time and it was the only way Iowa could get into the NCAA's. But still why play them? The real conference season is good enough.

 

[markfromj]

No.

 

[Hawksfor3]

Hey, we got a spot in The Grand Old Tournament, The NIT. It is the original tournament. Lots of tradition!

 

[VodkaSam]

Gopher fan here!

Cody Poock, gopher linebacker says, "HI"

There might be one person who gets this. Explain it to them.

Gopher linebacker?? Sorry, Minnesota football is far to irrelevant for 99.9% of us to get your "inside joke". But I'm sure it's hilarious to you and the other 3 people that follow Minnesota football.

 

[Franisdaman]

I don't think that game be the only memory.


Chris Beaver will never be able to live it down. Every time he refs in Iowa City I'm sure the fans won't let him forget it

I mean, 2 missed calls in a matter of a couple seconds.

Can't get much worse than that.

 

[Suterman]

Gopher fan here!

Cody Poock, gopher linebacker says, "HI"

There might be one person who gets this. Explain it to them.

Oh I get it. Good luck to Cody.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

I have heard several people say that had Iowa won that game they would be in the NCAA Tournament regardless of how they did in the big 10 tournament.

I understand refs missing calls for both sides. HOWEVER, missing TWO calls in ONE SHORT SEQUENCE?

Will that ref who blew TWO CALLS in ONE SHORT SEQUENCE go down in history with Jim Bain and Teddy V?

Espn Chris Hasell had a good tweet while back on how much this loss stung. If we didn't get hosed would have finished 19-12 and 11-7 and would have secured 4 seed and bye for big 10 tourney. Tough to leave Iowa out with that conference record and 4th place finish even if lost first game in big 10 tourney. However we had our chances to get in still with Indiana game and blew it.

 

[ConvenientParking]

Who hates Iowa? Who cares? We performed poorly in the non-con with a young team. That's why we'll be hosting an NIT game. The team didn't quit and they improved and they played a lot of good basketball in conference. Only question for next year is if it's possible for 5+ freshman to all have a sophomore slump.

 

[bagdropper]

That's what people will remember...but to me, it's losing at home to Nebraska-Omaha and losing twice to a team whose coach got fired after the season.

Minnesota should have not played into it at all. Hell, even reversing UNO gets Iowa in IMHO. Iowa just cannot lose that game under almost any circumstance.

 

[HawkNole09]

I just hope the guys realize that the difference between in and out is razor thin.

Keep working on the FT %,
Move the ball a little faster around the perimeter
Establish post position 1 step closer

It's those little things that are going to get them a decent seed next year.

 

[IllQChawk]

I just hope the guys realize that the difference between in and out is razor thin.

Keep working on the FT %,
Move the ball a little faster around the perimeter
Establish post position 1 step closer

It's those little things that are going to get them a decent seed next year.

And most of all, learn to play defense.....

 

[War Hawkeye]

I'll probably forget about it by football season

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

At the end of the day, had Iowa won @ Minnesota they would be in. It was a screw job of epic proportions.

 

[hawkeyeinmo]

No because a win at home against Illinois, beating Omaha, winning at Nebby, or beating Indiana in the B1G tournament first round, would have put Iowa in the last 4 in range.

Beating Minny at home, or winning more games in the B1G tournament, in addition to the above, could have made Iowa safely in.[/QUOTE

Disagree, flip the result of that 1 game and Iowa would have stood at 11-7 and ALONE in 4th place. Would have had double bye and no wins needed in BTT. Alone 4th place would have put Iowa safely in.

 

[Rustys Dad]

A game is 40 minutes long ... Yes, bad calls made there way into this game ... but I hate to see anyone point at the officials as to why we lost a game ... We lost. Plain and simple. No looking in the rear-view mirror ... Iowa is exactly where it should be: the NIT (as a higher seed) ... Iowa made a nice run. It matured ... But I think the Hawks are right where they should be (#1 NIT seed) ... Nothing wrong with that ... Get a few quality games/wins in ... build for next season ... Next season ... we better be Dancing.

 

[anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba]

Well, since it cost Iowa an NCAA berth, it could be.

Of course Iowa had several other opportunities, but when something as blatant as what happened at Minnesota occurs, it's not just another bad call...it's not BAU, it's absolute incompetence. And that's not right.

And according to the players, the hangover from that "loss" lasted a few more games, which is entirely understandable.

Those of you who think what happened at Minnesota is just part of the game need to ask this question: How many other teams across the country suffered a loss to due blatantly incompetent officiating in the last 20 seconds? How many had a two-point lead while all three refs ignored a team yelling and signalling for timeout after the refs had just been told to watch for it, and how many had the ball given to the other team on a held ball because none of the three refs noticed the player who tied up the ball happened to be standing out of bounds?

Exactly.

 

[HoustonHawkeye]

Well, since it cost Iowa an NCAA berth, it could be.

Of course Iowa had several other opportunities, but when something as blatant as what happened at Minnesota occurs, it's not just another bad call...it's not BAU, it's absolute incompetence. And that's not right.

And according to the players, the hangover from that "loss" lasted a few more games, which is entirely understandable.

Those of you who think what happened at Minnesota is just part of the game need to ask this question: How many other teams across the country suffered a loss to due blatantly incompetent officiating in the last 20 seconds? How many had a two-point lead while all three refs ignored a team yelling and signalling for timeout after the refs had just been told to watch for it, and how many had the ball given to the other team on a held ball because none of the three refs noticed the player who tied up the ball happened to be standing out of bounds?

Exactly.

I agree 1000%. There is no way the refs did not hear the TO call. I think a coach should be able to request 1 review in last minute of the game. It is BS that the refs swallow their whistle in the last minute, especially on the last play of the game. If the defensive guy fouls the player, call the foul. Grow a pair of balls. Last minute plays favor the defensive guy 80% of the time(my guess).

 

[ichawk24]

Iowa could have won that game even after the missed call, and didn't.

Who knows if the Hawks win at Wisky and Maryland if they win at Minnesota. They rest of the season is different.

Only whiners will hold onto the Minnesota game. Losing to UNO bugs me more.

But its all NIT baby! IN it to WIN IT.

 

[hawkeyeinmo]

A game is 40 minutes long ... Yes, bad calls made there way into this game ... but I hate to see anyone point at the officials as to why we lost a game ... We lost. Plain and simple. No looking in the rear-view mirror ... Iowa is exactly where it should be: the NIT (as a higher seed) ... Iowa made a nice run. It matured ... But I think the Hawks are right where they should be (#1 NIT seed) ... Nothing wrong with that ... Get a few quality games/wins in ... build for next season ... Next season ... we better be Dancing.

The problem to me really is replay was put in so that they would do everything possible to "get it right" in the last 2 minutes. This was not some "judgment" call like traveling or a foul, or even a foot out of bounds with 10 minutes left in the game. I don't even have a problem that they missed the timeout. They look at a toe on the 3 point line the ENTIRE game to "get it right". They review who's finger the ball went off the last 2 min. No "judgment" on this call, it was blown and SHOULD be reviewable last 2 min. CHANGE the rule!

 

[yippitiyiyo]

No. It will go down as the year that Fran's underestimated recruiting class paid off big time. I expected flashes, but not consistency out of these Freshman. And we we received was consistency out of the Freshman and flashes out of Jok. Hard to tell if we will be let down next year, but the pasture appears to be green.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Na. It was bullshit, but they had opportunities at home against Illinois and again in the BTT

 

[HawksRMe]

I'll remember this year as the year a mostly Freshman team beat ISU, Maryland, Whisky, Michigan and Purdue. In the end, they got what they deserved. Beat Indy and they were probably in. Oh well.

 

[HoustonHawkeye]

[QUOTE="Only whiners will hold onto the Minnesota game. Losing to UNO bugs me more.

But its all NIT baby! IN it to WIN IT.[/QUOTE]

Soooooo, everyone else are whiners, but you sit on your throne above everyone else with moral superiority. I get it know. How foolish of us whiners!

 

[ichawk24]

If you are blaming the outcome of the entire season on one call during one game, you are indeed a whiner.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

I have heard several people say that had Iowa won that game they would be in the NCAA Tournament regardless of how they did in the big 10 tournament.

I understand refs missing calls for both sides. HOWEVER, missing TWO calls in ONE SHORT SEQUENCE?

Will that ref who blew TWO CALLS in ONE SHORT SEQUENCE go down in history with Jim Bain and Teddy V?

Let it go. If you saw the series of games officiated by Jim Bain in Lute's last few seasons, you would know there is a big difference here.

 

[Rustys Dad]

Well, since it cost Iowa an NCAA berth, it could be.

Of course Iowa had several other opportunities, but when something as blatant as what happened at Minnesota occurs, it's not just another bad call...it's not BAU, it's absolute incompetence. And that's not right.

And according to the players, the hangover from that "loss" lasted a few more games, which is entirely understandable.

Those of you who think what happened at Minnesota is just part of the game need to ask this question: How many other teams across the country suffered a loss to due blatantly incompetent officiating in the last 20 seconds? How many had a two-point lead while all three refs ignored a team yelling and signalling for timeout after the refs had just been told to watch for it, and how many had the ball given to the other team on a held ball because none of the three refs noticed the player who tied up the ball happened to be standing out of bounds?

Exactly.

Let it go man ... Let it go ...