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Sorry, I see no appearances that would lead me to conclude it was intentional.
He's done the exact thing before and said right after the game that he supposes that he'll need to find another way to fight thru screens. He did exactly what he intended to do.
 
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Sorry, I see no appearances that would lead me to conclude it was intentional.
You must either be blind, an idiot, or just purposely obtuse then. There is no other conclusion one could come to, especially seeing the way Davison purposely bent down to sweep Wieskamp's feet out from under himself. Seems like Davison is getting worse, too. Is this what Gard teaches? And Gard defended Davison after the game. What an ass.

Nice press clippings: https://www.google.com/amp/s/colleg...-defection-throw-wisconsin-into-disarray/amp/

At the end of the day, this WI team will be known more for dirty plays than for success on the court.
 
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Davison has intentionally used this maneuver as a way to pick up moving screen violations on defenders,.. The rap to the nuts might not be planned, but the odds of it happening are pretty high with a dirty move like this... Davison has a long history of playing in the margins of the rule book...
 
Davison has intentionally used this maneuver as a way to pick up moving screen violations on defenders,.. The rap to the nuts might not be planned, but the odds of it happening are pretty high with a dirty move like this... Davison has a long history of playing in the margins of the rule book...

Neither planned nor intended. As is apparent, Brad is not a tall, fast or athletic guard at this level and has a difficult time getting around screens. He plays aggressive defense, no doubt. He sometimes plays out of control and needs to avoid putting himself in those situations. He apologized immediately in the two instances I am aware of.
Gard is selective as to the kids he recruits and is familiar with his high school and the conference they play in. He watched Brad since 8th grade and would not have offered him if he carried the reputaion of a dirty player.
 
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Neither planned nor intended. As is apparent, Brad is not a tall, fast or athletic guard at this level and has a difficult time getting around screens. He plays aggressive defense, no doubt. He sometimes plays out of control and needs to avoid putting himself in those situations. He apologized immediately in the two instances I am aware of.
Gard is selective as to the kids he recruits and is familiar with his high school and the conference they play in. He watched Brad since 8th grade and would not have offered him if he carried the reputaion of a dirty player.

Bullshit,... Davison has used this maneuver, and others, way too often for it to be accidental,.. He pretends that's the case but at this point that story is no longer believable,.. If he has to be this "aggressive" and "out of control" in order to succeed on the floor, then perhaps he shouldn't be playing the game,... The recent action by the normally inattentive BIG10 confirms that Davison has been out of line and that Gard has been wearing blinders...
 
Neither planned nor intended. As is apparent, Brad is not a tall, fast or athletic guard at this level and has a difficult time getting around screens. He plays aggressive defense, no doubt. He sometimes plays out of control and needs to avoid putting himself in those situations. He apologized immediately in the two instances I am aware of.
Gard is selective as to the kids he recruits and is familiar with his high school and the conference they play in. He watched Brad since 8th grade and would not have offered him if he carried the reputaion of a dirty player.

Get the fu ck out of here with this. Brad DOES have a rep as a dirty player and it is one he has earned during his time wearing the Badger uniform. The fact that Gard nor anyone at WI has felt the need to address it and in fact has defended him says a lot about the quality of people in charge in Madison.
 
I don't know how this got to the point of you, that are normally Fran haters can come to a conclusion that he at the same level as Gard. He doesn't win as much, he certainly doesn't develop talent as well, He can't get his teams to play defense at a championship level. He is too volatile! If you lose 3 out of your next 4, I wonder how many will be calling for his head!
 
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I don't know how this got to the point of you, that are normally Fran haters can come to a conclusion that he at the same level as Gard. He doesn't win as much, he certainly doesn't develop talent as well, He can't get his teams to play defense at a championship level. He is too volatile! If you lose 3 out of your next 4, I wonder how many will be calling for his head!

There’s a simple test and that would be if you flipped Fran and Gard at these schools, Fran would be every bit as successful if not more given all the advantages Wisconsin has in this league and your b-ball would be highly entertaining instead of a snooze fest that it is. Gard at Iowa would be a notch above Lickliter but consistently in the bottom 1/3 and out of a job in 3-4 years.
 
There’s a simple test and that would be if you flipped Fran and Gard at these schools, Fran would be every bit as successful if not more given all the advantages Wisconsin has in this league and your b-ball would be highly entertaining instead of a snooze fest that it is. Gard at Iowa would be a notch above Lickliter but consistently in the bottom 1/3 and out of a job in 3-4 years.
What advantages does Wisconsin have in this league that Iowa does not? Genuine question
 
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I don't know how this got to the point of you, that are normally Fran haters can come to a conclusion that he at the same level as Gard. He doesn't win as much, he certainly doesn't develop talent as well, He can't get his teams to play defense at a championship level. He is too volatile! If you lose 3 out of your next 4, I wonder how many will be calling for his head!
Look at the coaches that each replaced and the state of each program when they came in. No comparison there - Iowa was a dumpster fire and WI was the conference champs and national runner-up, with 17 straight NCAA appearances.
 
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Twice the in-state population with half the number of Division 1 programs...
IA: Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa, Drake
WI: Wisconsin, Marquette, UW-Milwaukee, UW-Green Bay

I believe that the states have the same number of Division 1 programs unless I am forgetting a team.

Wisconsin does have a larger in-state population, which could be an advantage in recruiting, but I would argue that it has a negligible impact at this point. Kids are leaving home more frequently than they ever have in basketball
 
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Neither planned nor intended. As is apparent, Brad is not a tall, fast or athletic guard at this level and has a difficult time getting around screens. He plays aggressive defense, no doubt. He sometimes plays out of control and needs to avoid putting himself in those situations. He apologized immediately in the two instances I am aware of.
Gard is selective as to the kids he recruits and is familiar with his high school and the conference they play in. He watched Brad since 8th grade and would not have offered him if he carried the reputaion of a dirty player.
Lulz......he got suspended for a reason.
 
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Davison is a dirty player, plain and simple. He should have been suspended for much longer as he could have potentially caused season or career ending injury—such as the Minnesota incident. I do not know if he played this way in high school or not, but is obviously dirty. This has been a pattern since his freshman year when he started flopping which has resulted in rule changes. This is not a scrappy, hard working player that he was described as by Wisconsin fans when he was a freshman. He is s dirty player that is poor representative of Wisconsin.
 
I really lost a lot of respect for Gard when he said he did not think what Davison did to Connor was intentional. He was flat out lying for a pattern of unsportsmanlike and dirty play by one of his players. There is the idea of having your player’s back and then there is enabling disgusting behavior. I prefer what Underwood did after he saw what Griffin did to the Purdue player- he said it was unacceptable and he supported his suspension.
 
IA: Iowa, Iowa State, Northern Iowa, Drake
WI: Wisconsin, Marquette, UW-Milwaukee, UW-Green Bay

I believe that the states have the same number of Division 1 programs unless I am forgetting a team.

Wisconsin does have a larger in-state population, which could be an advantage in recruiting, but I would argue that it has a negligible impact at this point. Kids are leaving home more frequently than they ever have in basketball

And I would argue that UW-Milwaukee and UW-Green Bay are nothing more than feeder programs for UW-Madison,... just cogs in the UW machine.
 
Look at the coaches that each replaced and the state of each program when they came in. No comparison there - Iowa was a dumpster fire and WI was the conference champs and national runner-up, with 17 straight NCAA appearances.

It's a helluva lot easier to replace Todd Lickliter than Bo Ryan. Anything Fran does, even the slightest success is overblown. GG will never live up to the hype (in idiot's perspectives)
 
And I would argue that UW-Milwaukee and UW-Green Bay are nothing more than feeder programs for UW-Madison,... just cogs in the machine.

Colleges are feeder programs to other colleges? That's a new one on me.
 
I don't know how this got to the point of you, that are normally Fran haters can come to a conclusion that he at the same level as Gard. He doesn't win as much, he certainly doesn't develop talent as well, He can't get his teams to play defense at a championship level. He is too volatile! If you lose 3 out of your next 4, I wonder how many will be calling for his head!

Iowa fans would rather lose pretty than win ugly. I prefer winning, no matter what it looks like.
 
Quoting Woody Harrellson’s character from White Men Can’t Jump. Real original. Iowa fans want to win just as much as cheeseheads but I am happy we play a style that isn’t a form of anesthesia.
 
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And I would argue that UW-Milwaukee and UW-Green Bay are nothing more than feeder programs for UW-Madison,... just cogs in the UW machine.
Outside of Trevor Anderson, I am not aware of any players that have transferred from those schools to UW. Anderson is not even a scholarship player. Are there other examples I am unaware of?
 
I wish the Commissioner was concerned about players undercutting other players, a much more dangerous foul and potentially career ending act than the "takedown" in question.
Undercutting?.....You mean like sticking your foot out underneath someone intentionally so they land on your leg awkwardly and possibly roll their ankle or worse?........

Is that what you mean? Because that's what it means to Brad Davison. :)

Nice try, Badger fan. Go be ashamed of your dirty player and stop tongue in cheek trying to play it straight like you can make an argument he isn't dirty.

Good luck! :)
 
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I won't argue any Iowa fan that would rather have Fran than Gard. I won't agree, but I do acknowledge that there are pieces there to be successful in the coming years.

It is a bit perplexing about how style of play is used in the argument though, especially from a fanbase that really seems to have no problem enjoying the style of play their football team employs.

As long as your team is winning, you're going to enjoy watching them play. In my opinion, it's just as frustrating watching your team score 55 as it is watching them give up 85. It's just as fun watching your team give up 50 as it is watching your team score 90.
 
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Outside of Trevor Anderson, I am not aware of any players that have transferred from those schools to UW. Anderson is not even a scholarship player. Are there other examples I am unaware of?

Not about transfers, it's about a lack of recruiting competition,... When's the last time UW-Madison lost out on a desirable recruit to UW-Milwaukee or UW-Green Bay?,... doesn't happen, because UW funnels any serious in-state talent directly to Madison.
 
Not about transfers, it's about a lack of recruiting competition,... When's the last time UW-Madison lost out on a desirable recruit to UW-Milwaukee or UW-Green Bay?,... doesn't happen, because UW funnels any serious in-state talent directly to Madison.
When is the last time Iowa lost a desirable recruit to Drake or Northern Iowa? Outside of AJ Green (whose dad is on staff and really shouldn't count), Iowa isn't losing anyone they want to those schools.
 
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I won't argue any Iowa fan that would rather have Fran than Gard. I won't agree, but I do acknowledge that there are pieces there to be successful in the coming years.

It is a bit perplexing about how style of play is used in the argument though, especially from a fanbase that really seems to have no problem enjoying the style of play their football team employs.

As long as your team is winning, you're going to enjoy watching them play. In my opinion, it's just as frustrating watching your team score 55 as it is watching them give up 85. It's just as fun watching your team give up 50 as it is watching your team score 90.
I don't particularly think Iowa fans have liked the conservative playcalling from our football team. Good thing is, that is in the past. Iowa plans to score 45+ moving forward. :)
 
Not about transfers, it's about a lack of recruiting competition,... When's the last time UW-Madison lost out on a desirable recruit to UW-Milwaukee or UW-Green Bay?,... doesn't happen, because UW funnels any serious in-state talent directly to Madison.

The serious talent leaves the state.
 
My biggest issue on the Davison situation was after he was suspended, Gard was interviewed and said we get "Captain America" back tonight.
I think I'd have just said, it will be good to have Brad back in the line up and leave it at that. By stroking him as CA, he essentially excused his actions and that was apparent by his disdain of the suspension. If you think Iowa people don't like Brad, you should have heard the Gopher faithful I was talking to at the Iowa game last weekend. I am sure it has to do with him leaving MSP for Madison but man they were a bitter bunch!

Lastly, I'll say, he's a good player and one you either love or hate based on the uniform. When he shuts up and plays, he can be effective, but he needs to stop with his antics that have spanned from being a professional flopper to nut puncher. He also looks like a guy that could be 260 lbs by age 30!
 
Rivalries make sports interesting and fun to me. As elaberate and intense as they can get, I don't despise anyone. The B1G has a large number of outstanding universities with excellent academics, clean athletic departments and good student athletes. Iowa and Wisconsin are two of these schools. Can't we have civil conversations?

Nope. And I said despise cause I really didn’t want to admit jealousy. :rolleyes:
 
I won't argue any Iowa fan that would rather have Fran than Gard. I won't agree, but I do acknowledge that there are pieces there to be successful in the coming years.

It is a bit perplexing about how style of play is used in the argument though, especially from a fanbase that really seems to have no problem enjoying the style of play their football team employs.

As long as your team is winning, you're going to enjoy watching them play. In my opinion, it's just as frustrating watching your team score 55 as it is watching them give up 85. It's just as fun watching your team give up 50 as it is watching your team score 90.

This is fair. And I do agree a win is a win. You take them happily and move on. However, Iowa fans have, at times, been incredibly frustrated with conservative play calling in football.
 
I wish the Commissioner was concerned about players undercutting other players, a much more dangerous foul and potentially career ending act than the "takedown" in question.
The “‘takedown’ in question” was the last straw in a culmination of dirty play, and the Big Ten decided it was finally time to do something about it.

From the commissioner, during the announcement of Davison’s one game suspension: “We will not tolerate behavior that compromises the health and safety of our student-athletes or crosses the line of aggressive, competitive play, especially when a pattern of similar behavior has been previously established.”

Thank you for making that point so I could take this opportunity to remind everybody that literally everybody in the Big Ten (including the Big 10 league office) outside of Wisconsin thinks that Davison is a dirty ass player
 
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