Wisky vs Mich Tonight

[IllQChawk]

I think Garza has a tough time with Dickinson. The kids 7-1 with 6 foot arms. Michigan is really quick and hands are always moving. Defense is really good. Rebound well. Either they’re playing out of their ass or they’re easily the best team in the B1G

You realize that the last time Luka had a game under 10 points was against San Diego St when basically Garza had been injured late in the game against Texas Tech the night before and he just didn't have his legs under him in the second half of the game against SDS.
I believe Iowa at the half against SDS, Iowa was up by 9 and really didn't need Luka to exert himself during the first half.
Now, OK, there's is always a chance that Dickinson will limit Garza to under 20 points, we'll see, but Garza has had his way with every big man that he has encountered in the last 2 years minus the SDS game.
It will be interesting to see if Michigan will again guard Luka 1 on 1 and try to keep the rest of Iowa's players from beating them from 3.....it worked the first time we'll see if can work again on the 4th of Mar.
The way the Big Ten is shaping up, Michigan may indeed be undefeated when Iowa comes to town, but as Illinois just found out nothing is a lock.

 

[RocknRollface]

Its aggravating that we have to wait until March to play Michigan for the first time.

 

[BBHawk]

Its aggravating that we have to wait until March to play Michigan for the first time.

Patience. Good things come to those who wait.
🙂

 

[RocknRollface]

You realize that the last time Luka had a game under 10 points was against San Diego St when basically Garza had been injured late in the game against Texas Tech the night before and he just didn't have his legs under him in the second half of the game against SDS.
I believe Iowa at the half against SDS, Iowa was up by 9 and really didn't need Luka to exert himself during the first half.
Now, OK, there's is always a chance that Dickinson will limit Garza to under 20 points, we'll see, but Garza has had his way with every big man that he has encountered in the last 2 years minus the SDS game.
It will be interesting to see if Michigan will again guard Luka 1 on 1 and try to keep the rest of Iowa's players from beating them from 3.....it worked the first time we'll see if can work again on the 4th of Mar.
The way the Big Ten is shaping up, Michigan may indeed be undefeated when Iowa comes to town, but as Illinois just found out nothing is a lock.

They won't be undeated. They have a tough lineup in February.

I agree Dickinson is not a problem for Garza. Luka has seen much tougher defenders in his time.

I would doubt they will try to play him straight up all game because Dickinson is likely to pick up to many fouls.

 

[24 so far]

They won't be undeated. They have a tough lineup in February.

I agree Dickinson is not a problem for Garza. Luka has seen much tougher defenders in his time.

I would doubt they will try to play him straight up all game because Dickinson is likely to pick up to many fouls.

They may try it for awhile, and longer if they can get and keep a lead. Probably be one of those score and time deals.

Iowa has to get out of the starting gate better than we have on several occasions. If we do that, we'll make it a contest, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if Iowa wins this game regardless. This isn't UCLA of yesteryear we're up against.

 

[chuck285]

They are playing fantastic basketball right now, no other way to put it. Wisconsin is good, and they just took them apart. They won't play that well every night. If they do, they won't lose, period.

My own opinion is that for Iowa to win/be close Garza will have to move around, run a lot of pick and pop and hit some outside shots. Have to make the big man move and defend in and out, try to get him in foul trouble. Michigan's defense is really good, I didn't realize they were leading the conference in blocked shots. After tonight I see why. Wagner is tall and active, and the rest of their team is active and long. It appears that Howard can recruit and coach, which is a lethal combination.

It's a long season, and the way teams look one game doesn't mean they will play that way the entire season. But Michigan is flat out good.

Look for Michigan to pull a Harbaugh when they are suppose to play us and the winner would win the B1G
We have one player and three coaches with coronavirus so we'll have to skip the Iowa game..

 

[kceasthawk]

Sometimes it's just one of those nights.
Don't forget Michigan scored 62 in it's 4 point win over Penn St.

This exactly. They have had some not so great games as well. Lets let this play out and see what happens when we play them.

 

[Rifler]

Its aggravating that we have to wait until March to play Michigan for the first time.

I think it's going to be an important match up...

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

When they're 'on' like that, I would think they'd be a nightmare for ANYONE in the nation; Gonzaga, us, Baylor....anyone.
That perimeter speed, length, and athleticism all over the court, coupled with the defensive intensity was fun to watch. Having it be against Wisky was just an added bonus. Can they play Duke just like that next?

 

[HawkLogic]

You realize that the last time Luka had a game under 10 points was against San Diego St when basically Garza had been injured late in the game against Texas Tech the night before and he just didn't have his legs under him in the second half of the game against SDS.
I believe Iowa at the half against SDS, Iowa was up by 9 and really didn't need Luka to exert himself during the first half.
Now, OK, there's is always a chance that Dickinson will limit Garza to under 20 points, we'll see, but Garza has had his way with every big man that he has encountered in the last 2 years minus the SDS game.
It will be interesting to see if Michigan will again guard Luka 1 on 1 and try to keep the rest of Iowa's players from beating them from 3.....it worked the first time we'll see if can work again on the 4th of Mar.
The way the Big Ten is shaping up, Michigan may indeed be undefeated when Iowa comes to town, but as Illinois just found out nothing is a lock.

It's not whether Garza gets 20+ pts, it is whether he's efficient. He was 11/27 vs 7'0 Robbins the 1st game at Minnesota and that was a loss. He also was inefficient shooting wise vs UNC which doubled him with two athletic bigs, but it didn't matter because the guards went off from 3pt line.

Garza is always highly valuable, rebounding, drawing double teams. However if he has a below 50% shooting night, that means the rest of Iowa's players need to have above average shooting nights and that is not a given.

Wisconsin lost vs Michigan. They had 8 shots blocked and they shot low 30 percentage and gave up 50% from the field to Michigan and 9/16 from 3pt line. Michigan will be tough to beat if they shoot like that vs Iowa and if they have 8 blocked shots vs Iowa.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

I also remember Iowa taking down Michigan in Carver 94-66 with Horner and Brunner. First place in the big ten standings were on the line. Games like this happen

 

[Rifler]

Michigan looked really good last night,.. Some nights Iowa looks really good,.. This is the Big Ten and it's a long season,.. Michigan will stumble.

 

[Rifler]

I also remember Iowa taking down Michigan in Carver 94-66 with Horner and Brunner. First place in the big ten standings were on the line. Games like this happen

In the past we have typically matched up well with Michigan,.. Not sure if that translates with Howard as coach,.. I guess we'll see...

 

[Greenway4Prez]

Michigan plays in the barn on Saturday think that will be first tough road game for Michigan, let’s see how well they play away from home, before we declare them best in the B1G

Revenge game for Minnesota.
Gophers coming off a loss.
Michigan coming off a HUGE win.

Sets up perfectly for the Minnesota upset!

 

[anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba]

Just for the record, maybe someone else has mentioned it, but I will for sure: The last time Iowa played in Ann Arbor, Garza scored 44 points. Again, just for the record.

BTW: I also should mention that a Republican Hawkeye fan tells me Iowa won that game in Ann Arbor by "about 30 points." Michigan claimed they won, but Iowa stopped the steal. Just so ya know.

 

[sbhawk64]

The biggest worry will be their guards defense. They will be suffocating with our slower guards. If the double team garza and cause issues on our guards, could be a blow out. Michigan is one of the top 2 teams in the country. Michigan and gonzaga would be game of the year

 

[RocknRollface]

When they're 'on' like that, I would think they'd be a nightmare for ANYONE in the nation; Gonzaga, us, Baylor....anyone.
That perimeter speed, length, and athleticism all over the court, coupled with the defensive intensity was fun to watch. Having it be against Wisky was just an added bonus. Can they play Duke just like that next?

Wisconsin is very unathletic which, in my opinion, made the contrast allot more striking.

Michigan is not any more athletic than Illinois or Rutgers but they do play better defense.

 

[Ronman]

 

[RocknRollface]

I also remember Iowa taking down Michigan in Carver 94-66 with Horner and Brunner. First place in the big ten standings were on the line. Games like this happen

I remember during Dev Marbles senior year Michigan blowing Iowa out shooting a bunch of 3s, and everyone talking about how they were way to athletic for Iowa.

Then in the rematch Iowa blew them out by hitting a bunch of 3s.

When one team makes a bunch of 3s and the other misses a bunch of 3s you get blowouts.

Thats essentially what happened.

Wisconsin missed a bunch of open 3s and Michigan made a bunch. Wisconsin got shell shocked and folded.

It wouldn't surprise me if wisconsin wins the rematch because they are actually the better shooting team.

 

[RocknRollface]

The biggest worry will be their guards defense. They will be suffocating with our slower guards. If the double team garza and cause issues on our guards, could be a blow out. Michigan is one of the top 2 teams in the country. Michigan and gonzaga would be game of the year

Suggs, Nembhard and Ayayi are all better than any of Michigans guards.

I don't think that game would be as good as people think. I think UMs defense gets diced up.

Gonzagas guards are on a different level from everyone else.

 

[blockm2]

I remember during Dev Marbles senior year Michigan blowing Iowa out shooting a bunch of 3s, and everyone talking about how they were way to athletic for Iowa.

Then in the rematch Iowa blew them out by hitting a bunch of 3s.

When one team makes a bunch of 3s and the other misses a bunch of 3s you get blowouts.

Thats essentially what happened.

Wisconsin missed a bunch of open 3s and Michigan made a bunch. Wisconsin got shell shocked and folded.

It wouldn't surprise me if wisconsin wins the rematch because they are actually the better shooting team.

Michigan shot below their season average eFG% against Wisconsin.

They did not blow Wisconsin out because they got lucky and made a bunch of 3s and Wisconsin got unlucky and missed a bunch of open 3s. They blew them out because Michigan obliterated their ability to get anything at the rim and forced them into a bunch of contested late shot clock heaves while on the other end Michigan had a parade of dunks, layups, and open jumpers.

Michigan did let guys like Reuvers have a few uncontested 3s which he bricked. They did a good job of locking down on the bigger threats.

 

[RocknRollface]

Michigan shot below their season average eFG% against Wisconsin.

They did not blow Wisconsin out because they got lucky and made a bunch of 3s and Wisconsin got unlucky and missed a bunch of open 3s. They blew them out because Michigan obliterated their ability to get anything at the rim and forced them into a bunch of contested late shot clock heaves while on the other end Michigan had a parade of dunks, layups, and open jumpers.

Michigan did let guys like Reuvers have a few uncontested 3s which he bricked. They did a good job of locking down on the bigger threats.

First, I didn't say anyone got lucky.

Yes. UM shut down their ability to get to the basket but Wisconsin had quite a few open looks from 3 not go down in that long scoring drought.

If they had been able to make a decent amount of those I don't think they melt down and start throwing the ball away like they did.

Michigan is the better team no question and Wisconsin was way overrated but to go on a 34-3 scoring run the other team has to fvck up allot.

I doubt the next time you play Wisconsin, win or lose, it will look anything like that.

 

[blockm2]

First, I didn't say anyone got lucky.

Yes. UM shut down their ability to get to the basket but Wisconsin had quite a few open looks from 3 not go down in that long scoring drought.

If they had been able to make a decent amount of those I don't think they melt down and start throwing the ball away like they did.

Michigan is the better team no question and Wisconsin was way overrated but to go on a 34-3 scoring run the other team has to fvck up allot.

I doubt the next time you play Wisconsin, win or lose, it will look anything like that.

you said Michigan blew them out because they made a bunch of 3s and Wisconsin missed a bunch of 3s (both teams made 9). I merely pointed out Michigan had a slightly below average shooting performance overall missing way too many layups which balanced out a few made 3s. Wisconsin missed a few open 3s by some of their lesser shooters but overall they shot 32% behind the arc which is not terrible and far from their worst performance of the season. If they would have made 2 more 3s they would have been right at their normal season average on a high volume and still gotten thrashed.

The reason the game was a blowout was because Wisconsin was 11-37 on 2 pt shots. That was their worst performance on 2 point shots since November of 2015 vs Oklahoma. Michigan blocked 9 shots and altered a bunch others and they just couldn't do anything about it. Their entire offense devolved into contested jump shots.


The next time Michigan and Wisconsin play it won't look anything like the largest deficit Wisconsin has faced in decades? Way to go out on a limb there. But unless Wisconsin makes some fundamental changes, no amount of 3 point shooting will bail them out. They need to figure out a way to score inside the arc on a Michigan defense that was geared up to stop it.

 

[Hawksfinal4]

Revenge game for Minnesota.
Gophers coming off a loss.
Michigan coming off a HUGE win.

Sets up perfectly for the Minnesota upset!

Time we bring this thread back maybe

 

[HawkRugged17]