Women's Biggest Liability

[GunnerHawk]

Three point shooting. Lack of, allows teams to drop off and stack the box.

Yesterday, numerous open three point shots were missed. To exacerbate the problem there were other threes forced up.

Someone mentioned in the game thread that this team stands around too much. Agreed, they need to get better flow.

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

The freshmen need to play more. I love their energy and can tolerate the stupid mistakes they make because they’re freshmen.

 

[ICWestfan]

Their ability to drive. Amirite?

 

[amahawk]

Three point shooting. Lack of, allows teams to drop off and stack the box.

Yesterday, numerous open three point shots were missed. To exacerbate the problem there were other threes forced up.

Someone mentioned in the game thread that this team stands around too much. Agreed, they need to get better flow.

When watching the game I kept thinking, move your feet.

 

[HawkGem11]

I think it is the coach right now. She try to force things into the post and work from there first and foremost....that is not what this team has done for many seasons and it is taking time for them to figure it out. I think she will figure it out, but constant post passes trying to throw over the defense isn't going to work and yet that is what they keep running. It still early for Jan as a coach and I think she will change it but so far she trying to run through the post since she is a post guru and it just isn't working

 

[suburbanhawk]

Turnovers in the half court are killing this team. It’s one thing when you get full court pressed like Tennessee did to us, but lazy, careless passes in the half court offense are inexcusable.

 

[Scott559]

The low I.Q. turnovers are maddening, No one likes T.O’s but at least make your opponent force some vs just giving possessions away.

Watching Hannah standing outside the 3 pt line with no defender within 10 feet of her, It really shrinks the floor for the defense and clogs passing lanes. Jan wants her to be a stretch 4 but she isn’t, Mallegni is that player, Sure there are growing pains but I wish she could get more minutes in that role.

While I didn’t expect the Hawks to be a great perimeter shooting team I also didn’t think they would overall be a poor shooting team, So far leaning more towards poor.

 

[Franisdaman]

When looking at weaknesses, you only have to look at turnovers; clean that up, and Iowa might be undefeated. Missed layups are an issue, of course, too.

Yesterday, #8 ranked Maryland won in Iowa City, 74-66.

Turnovers & missed layups were the story of the game:

(1) Maryland had 27 points off 21 IOWA turnovers.

(2) Iowa turned the ball over on 27.6% of their possessions.

(3) Iowa missed 20 layups (14-34).

Unbelievable.

Unacceptable.

 

[Titanhawk2]

Their ability to drive. Amirite?

Yes, five players being stationary just won't work. Even the pass attempts inside were slow, too late.

 

[Beattheohiostate]

When looking at weaknesses, you only have to look at turnovers; clean that up, and Iowa might be undefeated. Missed layups are an issue, of course, too.

Yesterday, #8 ranked Maryland won in Iowa City, 74-66.

Turnovers & missed layups were the story of the game:

(1) Maryland had 27 points off 21 IOWA turnovers.

(2) Iowa turned the ball over on 27.6% of their possessions.

(3) Iowa missed 20 layups (14-34).

Unbelievable.

Unacceptable.

That's exactly what I thought I saw. I was screaming at the TV to stop trying to feed the post! Even on the rare occasions when the pass made it in there, Iowa missed the bunny. So there was virtually NO POINT in trying to feed the post because the result most of the time was a turnover or a missed layup. And that's been happening much of the season. How long does it take to figure out it's a problem?

Loved that Jan subbed early with the freshmen who stopped the bleeding. I was disappointed that group didn't start the second half. I was especially disappointed that, given the poor 3-point shooting, Guyton didn't take a 3-point shot in the first half and only three, I think, in the second. She has to play more and shoot when she's out there. She also is aggressive taking it to the hoop and, generally, finishes. That one change would be a big boost to this team.

Iowa made a tremendous comeback and, two or three times, they had the ball and a chance to move within 3 or 4 points, and every damn time they either missed a wild layup or committed a stupid turnover. It was SO frustrating to watch.

It'll be interesting to see what Jan does with the lineup and rotations moving forward, and what she does about post play and trying to get the ball inside. There are changes needed. That's obvious.

 

[ihawkscott]

When looking at weaknesses, you only have to look at turnovers; clean that up, and Iowa might be undefeated. Missed layups are an issue, of course, too.

Yesterday, #8 ranked Maryland won in Iowa City, 74-66.

Turnovers & missed layups were the story of the game:

(1) Maryland had 27 points off 21 IOWA turnovers.

(2) Iowa turned the ball over on 27.6% of their possessions.

(3) Iowa missed 20 layups (14-34).

Unbelievable.

Unacceptable.

There are some games Syd is a walking turnover. I get it from the freshmen....but not a senior.

 

[ronnh]

The low I.Q. turnovers are maddening, No one likes T.O’s but at least make your opponent force some vs just giving possessions away.

Watching Hannah standing outside the 3 pt line with no defender within 10 feet of her, It really shrinks the floor for the defense and clogs passing lanes. Jan wants her to be a stretch 4 but she isn’t, Mallegni is that player, Sure there are growing pains but I wish she could get more minutes in that role.

While I didn’t expect the Hawks to be a great perimeter shooting team I also didn’t think they would overall be a poor shooting team, So far leaning more towards poor.

I am not a big fan of AOG and Stuelke out there at the same time. I don't think Stuelke can be a 4. The middle is too clogged when they are both there and there is no room for Stuelke to make any moves. AOG can't make any moves. If the pass is not on her fingertips she is not quick enough to adjust against good competition.

 

[Scott559]

I am not a big fan of AOG and Stuelke out there at the same time. I don't think Stuelke can be a 4. The middle is too clogged when they are both there and there is no room for Stuelke to make any moves. AOG can't make any moves. If the pass is not on her fingertips she is not quick enough to adjust against good competition.

Right now it appears Hannah is a player with no defined position, As you said Hannah doesn’t seem equipped to be a 4 currently, With Ava the future at the 5 it will be interesting to see if they can figure out how to fit Hannah in going forward.

 

[Franisdaman]

Guyton needs more minutes.

a couple of her highlights:

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[citizenHawk]

Tough to bench players that contributed heavily to two Final 4 teams, especially when the coach shared that journey with them. Different skills are required without Caitlin Clark on the floor.

It presents a conundrum few teams ever have to face after playing for a championship because there are typically stars returning on those teams. Clark made everyone better, but better playing through her boost.

Jensen does not have an easy job navigating that problem. Probably going to be a rollercoaster of a season.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

passing has been the #1 difference from this year to last. Shooting is worse, obviously, but the passing has been jr. high level bad. Like I expect things to be different and that will lead to some struggles but the passing has been horrific, it's where most of our turnovers come from (that and stuelke driving)

 

[amahawk]

Make layups, lessen turnovers, make free throws and grab rebounds instead of watching the other team, will go a long way of helping this team.

 

[djwoody]

The freshmen have to play more minutes. Their ceiling is so much higher. But as frustrating as yesterday was, especially in the first half, Iowa only has 3 losses to teams who are a combined 39-3.

 

[GunnerHawk]

The freshmen have to play more minutes. Their ceiling is so much higher. But as frustrating as yesterday was, especially in the first half, Iowa only has 3 losses to teams who are a combined 39-3.

They seem to play with more intensity. Guyton's speed with the ball and ability to drive reminds me of Caitlin. Stremlow has Gabby's defensive intensity. Heinen needs a year in the weight room room . Mallegni needs to be patient for her threes to come to here, she has great range when she gets set.

 

[hawkeye54545]

Every time the Hawkeyes turn it over on a lob entry pass one of Santa's elves die. Start explaining to your kids Christmas is canceled next year.

 

[BGHAWK]

I just would like to see the women to come out to start the game with some fire and aggressiveness like they did the second half on defense. Iowa did some things better than Maryland so there is hope. Shots don't always drop and other things bad happen, but there is no excuse to come out and play pretend on defense.

 

[texas twister]

Coach has some VERY OBVIOUS problems and much of it is in her hands to fix. This will determine whether she is head coach material or not. The horrible attempts to feed a well guarded post is so pitiful.

 

[kceasthawk]

There are some games Syd is a walking turnover. I get it from the freshmen....but not a senior.

As I said before I think Syd especially, but ALL the returning players except maybe Hannah, are complimentary role players. They played well in those roles last year supporting CC22 and Kate to a lesser extent. Now those same players are being asked to step outside those roles, (specifically Syd, Kylie, McCabe, and AOG) and they simply aren't capable of the bigger roles. All have something to bring to the team, but none of them are capable of assuming the mantle of being THE go to player when we need a big basket or to right the ship when things aren't going well against an opponent of equal or better talent. Who are the "Stars" on this team that are upperclass women? Look around at the other ranked B1G conference teams and show me another one of those teams that doesn't have a "go to star", probably one with several years of experience. I think we all thought Lucy would bring that, and maybe she will right the ship. It just seems so far that the level of play she was used to in the east wasn't quite up to what she's seen so far in the B1G, and the truly best teams are still on our future schedule.

 

[danny14]

They lost the leadership and players that carried the team the last couple years. The drop off of consistent play is not a surprise. Next year will be more important to see if they are going to become a team that can compete yearly as a top 15 squad. They need to establish which girls will carry them the next few years.

 

[Tenacious E]

Tough to bench players that contributed heavily to two Final 4 teams, especially when the coach shared that journey with them. Different skills are required without Caitlin Clark on the floor.

It presents a conundrum few teams ever have to face after playing for a championship because there are typically stars returning on those teams. Clark made everyone better, but better playing through her boost.

Jensen does not have an easy job navigating that problem. Probably going to be a rollercoaster of a season.

It is politically difficult but let's admit the reality that Clark did not just make everyone better, she made everyone a LOT better by getting an unbelievable number of players open looks at layups and 3s. She's gone and if you could stand there and make an open 3 she fed you, that's not good enough anymore. I love what Guyton is bringing to the table. I don't watch the games as close as many of you, but it seems to me that a lineup of Guyton, Olsen, Mallegni, Stuelke, and Heiden could do some damage.

 

[pablow]

It is politically difficult but let's admit the reality that Clark did not just make everyone better, she made everyone a LOT better by getting an unbelievable number of players open looks at layups and 3s. She's gone and if you could stand there and make an open 3 she fed you, that's not good enough anymore. I love what Guyton is bringing to the table. I don't watch the games as close as many of you, but it seems to me that a lineup of Guyton, Olsen, Mallegni, Stuelke, and Heiden could do some damage.

She got Hannah 47 points last year. More and more, that seems like a miracle.

 

[herkhatescy2]

Jan needs to have different starting lineup. The 1st quarter just kills us and we can’t claw all the way back from being 20 to 25 points down to win a game.

 

[Tenacious E]

She got Hannah 47 points last year. More and more, that seems like a miracle.

I have used this analogy before but Caitlin was like Maximus leading a ragtag group of gladiators to victory in the Colosseum in making it to the championship game the past two seasons. Just stunning ability and leadership.

 

[fish1hawk]

We lack senior leadership and coach on the floor. As said by others it wasn’t Syd, Kylie or Hannah handling the hot potato with pressure on. Those moments of panic or rush affect confidence in passes and shooting. Clark and Martin were so good at performing. We don’t have the confident leader on the floor

 

[GunnerHawk]

With everything said hear I do want to complement these young ladies for hustling their asses off to claw back in the game and make it close. I admire their grit which is a reflection of their coach. This team will keep fighting and will only get better.

 

[Hawksbyamillion]

I’m not big on moral victories, but I hope after coming back against a top 10 team after being down 25 the girls will turn the corner and realize how good they can be if they clean up the dumb turnovers and play a complete game.

 

[BGHAWK]

Just start the game getting aggressive and physical on defense, every game from now on. Shots may not drop, but there is no excuse for passive D.

 

[intrepodor]

I am not a big fan of AOG and Stuelke out there at the same time. I don't think Stuelke can be a 4. The middle is too clogged when they are both there and there is no room for Stuelke to make any moves. AOG can't make any moves. If the pass is not on her fingertips she is not quick enough to adjust against good competition.

Regarding AOG. Last night on an Iowa possession when a shot went up AOG turned her back to the basket to help a Maryland player up from the floor. The rebound bounced to the floor right next to her. I couldn't believe what I wss seeing.

 

[elipse]

Right now it appears Hannah is a player with no defined position, As you said Hannah doesn’t seem equipped to be a 4 currently, With Ava the future at the 5 it will be interesting to see if they can figure out how to fit Hannah in going forward.

Hannah is now playing her normal position - but she looks like a duck out of water. Maybe it’s just because cc always found her in 2 seconds under the basket for a layup….

 

[intrepodor]

Hannah is now playing her normal position - but she looks like a duck out of water. Maybe it’s just because cc always found her in 2 seconds under the basket for a layup….

Exactly

 

[northernboarderhawk]

I personally fell that Hannah needs to be put at the basket with the guys on the staff bodying her and shot between 100 to 200 layups every day to learn how to have some touch and use the glass. Right now. it seems she just cutches the ball and just throws it towards the rim and hopes it will go in. she needs some touch and learn how to use the angles. also, a strong pump fake wouldn't hurt once in a while. Addison also needs to learn how to use the glass. I see way too many shots from underneath that are just thrown up hoping they will go in, no fell at all for shots under the basket. I really think this alone would improve Hannah's game immensely.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

I didn’t know what to expect when guyton finally got in but it certainly wasn’t this. That girl is a major talent. She needs 20-25 minutes possibly more.

 

[littlez]

As I said before I think Syd especially, but ALL the returning players except maybe Hannah, are complimentary role players. They played well in those roles last year supporting CC22 and Kate to a lesser extent. Now those same players are being asked to step outside those roles, (specifically Syd, Kylie, McCabe, and AOG) and they simply aren't capable of the bigger roles. All have something to bring to the team, but none of them are capable of assuming the mantle of being THE go to player when we need a big basket or to right the ship when things aren't going well against an opponent of equal or better talent. Who are the "Stars" on this team that are upperclass women? Look around at the other ranked B1G conference teams and show me another one of those teams that doesn't have a "go to star", probably one with several years of experience. I think we all thought Lucy would bring that, and maybe she will right the ship. It just seems so far that the level of play she was used to in the east wasn't quite up to what she's seen so far in the B1G, and the truly best teams are still on our future schedule.

Pretty much sums it up perfectly. We probably don’t have a girl on this team that will play in the W. Lots of good players but we’ll be lucky to get a 3rd team all conference player. That will probably be Lucy. I had hoped she could be a poor man’s version of CC and somehow carry this team while Stuelke built on last years season. Lucy has been solid but I don’t think she’s capable of being the Alpha that this team desperately needs. Not really her fault, especially trying to follow in CC’s steps. If we knew Hannah was going to be playing the 4 all offseason we certainly should have planned better.

 

[acuhawk]

Watching Hannah standing outside the 3 pt line with no defender within 10 feet of her, It really shrinks the floor for the defense and clogs passing lanes.

Same thing happened with Cmac, but he had Weezy, Garza, and the Murrays to bail us out.