The freshmen are the future of the squad and need more playing time even at expense of "growing pains."
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So while they need playing time it's not clear the Freshman are "clearly better" than any of the starters. While they have all shown flashes and done good things they still also turn the ball over at a high rate and Heiden fouls every 30-60 seconds. They will all be good players, but at the moment none of them show they should be starting. Guyton looks to be the most ready, currently, but also wondering if she is still on a minutes thing based upon her knee injury.
My concern with guyton is dads tweets
This was my point at the beginning of the season and I'll continue to say it. Not sure why Jan thought she could just move Stuelke to the 4 unless we had been planning it the entire offseason and Hannah was shooting 300 12-15 foot jumpers plus a few 3's every single day. She basically played as an undersized 5 her entire career, and with CC it worked perfectly because she was a better athlete than most 5's and could beat them up and down the court and was good enough and quick enough to guard the 5 on the other end. And of course to everyone's point on here another game w/way more turnovers vs assists. 11 assists, 21 turnovers. That's an absolute killer.
What we've seen recently, Hawks will lose by 25+ points to UCLA/USC.
One person will patrol "the paint" and everyone else will guard the perimeter.
I'm afraid Iowa is an 8/9 seed in the post season.
Just a testament to the greatness of CC.
One person will patrol "the paint" and everyone else will guard the perimeter.
I'm afraid Iowa is an 8/9 seed in the post season.
Just a testament to the greatness of CC.
Agree Heiden still needs to figure out her issues with fouling. While I realize the starters get more minutes it is worth noting that they accounted for 17 of the 21 turnovers against Maryland. So not sure the Freshman are turning the ball over at a high rate.
In fairness to Hannah I believe she was healing up most of the offseason and really didn’t have the chance to work on expanding her game.
Correct on the TOs! Also worth noting is Stremlow had the most assists with 3 (6.67 per 40 mins).
| NAME | MIN | TO | Per/40 Mins |
| Hannah Stuelke | 20 | 5 | 10.00 |
| Kylie Feuerbach | 20 | 4 | 8.00 |
| Taylor Stremlow | 18 | 3 | 6.67 |
| Sydney Affolter | 30 | 4 | 5.33 |
| Teagan Mallegni | 10 | 1 | 4.00 |
| Lucy Olsen | 32 | 3 | 3.75 |
| Addison O'grady | 21 | 1 | 1.90 |
| Aj Ediger | 5 | 0 | 0.00 |
| Aaliyah Guyton | 16 | 0 | 0.00 |
| Ava Heiden | 6 | 0 | 0.00 |
| Taylor Mccabe | 18 | 0 | 0.00 |
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Runouts- that's hard to do when she is inbounding the ball... which begs the question - why is she doing that?
Wow. A really sad commentary that this chart is topped by all the returning players, mostly 4th and 5th year players. For Hannah and Syd thats really disappointing. I think that shows they're outside of their comfort zone. Kylie really doesn't surprise me. She's always made poor decisions with the ball both passing and driving into traffic in the lane. I just didn't buy it went people said she would take a big step up this year with more minutes. She plays hard especially on defense, but she's not a skilled offensive player, and you just don't make that kind of jump in your 5th year in college.Correct on the TOs! Also worth noting is Stremlow had the most assists with 3 (6.67 per 40 mins).
NAME MIN TO Per/40 Mins Hannah Stuelke Kylie Feuerbach Taylor Stremlow Sydney Affolter Teagan Mallegni Lucy Olsen Addison O'grady Aj Ediger Aaliyah Guyton Ava Heiden Taylor Mccabe Maryland vs Iowa Women's Basketball Game Summary - January 5th, 2025 | NCAA.com
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AOG can play the 4. She has a beautiful 10 - 12 foot shot. Also, she can pass. It's worth a try when we want to go big.
I'm referencing more after a defensive rebound where she took off once CC got a rebound or pass and HS sprinted.
I wonder what everybody thought of Iowa two years ago when they lost by around 30 points to Maryland, and last year when they lost by around 20 points to Indiana.
This is a very good point, and helps to keep some perspective.
I keep reminding myself that despite everything, and despite Maryland hitting 3s like it was their primary MO, Iowa still won the second half.
Encouraged to know Jensen doesn't want that entry pass from the wing. Still unsure what she's thinking about her rotations.
Let's see if they all learned something from that game. Despite all the frustration, I'm rooting for them to get some good wins.
Obviously adding 2 top 5 teams to the league and one of those being number 1 has also made it much tougher for all. Then you toss in a totally revamped Maryland team that’s top 7 plus the usual suspects and a daunting schedule and you’re looking for some easy games, of which there aren’t many. We’re a good team in a really really good league.
You build off that greatness. It’s shouldn’t be a reason to fall behind, it should be the reason you move forward. The recruiting is the problem. We had some big misses.
Did they turn the ball over on 28% of ALL their possessions?
Vs Maryland Iowa had 14 assists and 24 turnovers. Vs Indiana Iowa had 18 assists and 12 turnovers, but only shot 5/28 from the three.
For me, I thought well, that was a clunker, need to flush it and move on. And the team did and rarely lost. For this team, I don’t have that feeling that water will shed off the duck’s back.
Doodle has been saying it since the first game of the year....the biggest thing we're missing from CC isn't her scoring, crowd- and team-energizing logo 3's, assists (of both the circus and garden varieties), or even leadership, as important as all of those are.
It's her speed.
The absurd pace with which we were able to play with her on the court was a massive difference-maker. It put immense pressure on opposing teams and resulted in countless easy buckets in transition.
Now our top speed barely rivals what you might see in a typical elementary school crosswalk. Opposing players needn't worry about getting back at full gallop anymore and can comfortably pick up ball pressure much further up the court. Then, when our half-court game isn't operating efficiently, we don't have a transition game to fall back on. That is the one thing we lost with Caitlin's departure that we simply can't replicate. It's also, IDHO, why people seem eager to see Guyton get more minutes.
It's her speed.
The absurd pace with which we were able to play with her on the court was a massive difference-maker. It put immense pressure on opposing teams and resulted in countless easy buckets in transition.
Now our top speed barely rivals what you might see in a typical elementary school crosswalk. Opposing players needn't worry about getting back at full gallop anymore and can comfortably pick up ball pressure much further up the court. Then, when our half-court game isn't operating efficiently, we don't have a transition game to fall back on. That is the one thing we lost with Caitlin's departure that we simply can't replicate. It's also, IDHO, why people seem eager to see Guyton get more minutes.
IMHO, speed was just a single ingredient, along with size/length, court vision/awareness, dribbling skill, shooting skill, passing skill, and a clutch factor, all of which were of A+ caliber. On offense, she truly stretched and used every inch of the court and players on every inch of the court creating space, movement, and scoring opportunities. The crowds, scoring, logo 3's, and assists were the residue of all of that.
She had it all. Just look at the last game of the men and women. Depending on the narrative, great comebacks for Iowa or choked under pressure or nearly so for Nebraska and Maryland. The mental aspect of the game is important and CC had it too.
I think we are likely to see more of the freshman, but as is often the case, what we think we see, often isn’t accurate…Guyton, Stremlow & Mallegini are 1, 2 & 3 in TOs per 40 minutes. So they are certainly part of the problem…
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Agree, they have been sloppy with the ball as well. Guyton provides more on the positive side than the other two at least.I think we are likely to see more of the freshman, but as is often the case, what we think we see, often isn’t accurate…Guyton, Stremlow & Mallegini are 1, 2 & 3 in TOs per 40 minutes. So they are certainly part of the problem…
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I think we are likely to see more of the freshman, but as is often the case, what we think we see, often isn’t accurate…Guyton, Stremlow & Mallegini are 1, 2 & 3 in TOs per 40 minutes. So they are certainly part of the problem…
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Yes, that's true over the course of a season. However, this begs some questions at this point in the season.
Do you not expect your youngest players to be the less experienced and to make more errors than upperclassmen at the beginning of the season?
Now let's compare that to the latest game.
| NAME | MIN | TO | Per/40 Mins |
| Hannah Stuelke | 20 | 5 | 10.00 |
| Kylie Feuerbach | 20 | 4 | 8.00 |
| Taylor Stremlow | 18 | 3 | 6.67 |
| Sydney Affolter | 30 | 4 | 5.33 |
| Teagan Mallegni | 10 | 1 | 4.00 |
| Lucy Olsen | 32 | 3 | 3.75 |
| Addison O'grady | 21 | 1 | 1.90 |
| Aj Ediger | 5 | 0 | 0.00 |
| Aaliyah Guyton | 16 | 0 | 0.00 |
| Ava Heiden | 6 | 0 | 0.00 |
| Taylor Mccabe | 18 | 0 | 0.00 |
Do you expect your upperclassmen halfway through the season to be leading the way in TOs in big games?
I realize this is just one game, however that's not good leadership for the youngsters to learn from.
Mind you, Aaliyah Guyton got a very late start on gelling with the team because of her injury. We see she played 16 mins and had ZERO TOs in the last game. I would say she is making progress while the vets don't seem to be showing the same.
Just think more context is needed to better understand the numbers and possible trends that might be going on here. Thus, it might also be the catalyst for a starting lineup change that seems to be suggested by Ava Heiden in the presser.
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@pablow brought this up in another thread:
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Sure enough they're 100% correct on that TO to minutes trendline for Guyton in her last 3 games. She deserves more playing time and possibility a starting role with these recent stats. Seems she recently solves 2 problems: 1) more 3 ptrs and 2) less TOs.
| Date | Team | Opp | Result | GS | MP | FG | FGA | FG% | 2P | 2PA | 2P% | 3P | 3PA | 3P% | FT | FTA | FT% | ORB | DRB | TRB | AST | STL | BLK | TOV | PF | PTS | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025-01-05 | Iowa | Maryland | L 66-74 | 16 | 3 | 4 | .750 | 2 | 2 | 1.000 | 1 | 2 | .500 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | |||
| 2025-01-01 | Iowa | @ | Penn State | W 80-68 | 11 | 1 | 1 | 1.000 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1.000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | |||
| 2024-12-29 | Iowa | Purdue | W 84-63 | 20 | 4 | 11 | .364 | 3 | 5 | .600 | 1 | 6 | .167 | 0 | 2 | .000 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 9 |
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Meh…not at the expense of winning. See that’s the thing, all of us “fans“ think we have just as much invested in this as the players and coaches so we can make snap judgments from our couches and pretend like playing player XYZ more will automatically make us better and that’s not necessarily true. There is a cause and affect for everything
In my view the conundrum is balancing what you are vs what you can potentially be. I agree you want/need to win games. I also believe that getting some of the younger players more experience may be the key to the team being all they can be later in the season, Tough balancing act for Jan to navigate.
Agreed and why I/We don’t really have enough information to come close to knowing what is best for the program. I don’t have any problem saying I love the energy of the freshman, and wish they played more all while knowing. I really don’t have enough info to really know how that might truly affect the dichotomy of the team.
People are so demonstrative and finite in the way they complain about the players & coaches. There are 12 personalities, 12 egos and chemistry. There isn’t a person in this board who could coach this team better than Jan, but you wouldn’t know it by the game threads 🤷♂️
It’s obvious that they’re better if you watch the games. The freshmen get the lead and when the upperclassmen come back in they lose that lead.
No it's not at all. Potential is one they all certainly have some, but nobody jumps off the screen and as someone that should definitely be out there starting over the current starters.
Absolutely NOT…. and if you were truly qualified to make that decision, you wouldn’t be on this damn message board you’d be on the sidelines making $1 million a year coaching.
Holy shit guys like you spent all last season wanting Gabby Marshall benched
Congratulations fish1hawk on your 20 year anniversary on this forum!
Guess you were right! I was thinking our upperclassmen at some point would figure this out but it’s not happening. Kudos to you!
It's amazing how fickell 3 pt shooting can be.
Statistically, this team, right now anyways, is the worst 3 pt shooting Iowa team since the 16-17 season, which is also the last time they missed the NCAA Tournament.
They're at 32.1% right now. They shot 31.1% as a team in 2016-17.
Turrible.
