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Workers at Charlotte airport, an American Airlines hub, go on strike during Thanksgiving travel week...

Not really. They all have to be licensed nurses and CNAs. "Loss of institutional knowledge" happens at the higher levels.
You sure don't have to pay them like licensed nurses and CNAs. Pay them what YOU think they deserve and if they don't like it they can look elsewhere for a job.
 
LOL...watching you rail at unions is always fun. God, I hope I never have anyone I know stuck in one of the facilities you manage staffed by people making less than they pay at McDonalds.

If we paid less than McDonald's then we wouldn't have any employees. See how the free market works? It works for the labor market, too.
 
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You sure don't have to pay them like licensed nurses and CNAs. Pay them what YOU think they deserve and if they don't like it they can look elsewhere for a job.

I don't even know what you're blabbering about at this point.

We pay competitive wages compared to our competitors in every market where we operate and those wages are adjusted frequently to keep up with market conditions.

If we didn't do that, we'd go out of business.

NO UNION REQUIRED.
 
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If we paid less than McDonald's then we wouldn't have any employees. See how the free market works? It works for the labor market, too.
Bullshit. Just hire new ones. The airport can do the same thing. You don't seem to have any problem with other businesses constantly cycling though employees. Why don't your "observations" apply to your own business?
 
Bullshit. Just hire new ones. The airport can do the same thing. You don't seem to have any problem with other businesses constantly cycling though employees. Why don't your "observations" apply to your own business?

Bullshit. There are only so many "new" licensed nurses, you moron.
 
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Here's the deal: Unions don't want the pay to be competitive with the market, they want to "re-set" the market at a higher rate.

That eventually leads to imbalances in the economy, and that means bad mojo for John and Jane Consumer.
 
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You're just being a troll now. Go to bed and be wrong in your wrongness.
Run back to your cubicle. You've once again been exposed. The workers you're blasting are asking for the same thing YOUR company is forced to do...pay a livable wage. Either stiff your own workers and walk your talk or STFU.
 
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Here's the deal: Unions don't want the pay to be competitive with the market, they want to "re-set" the market at a higher rate.

That eventually leads to imbalances in the economy, and that means bad mojo for John and Jane Consumer.
You're right. It has nothing to do with the labor markets. They want a livable wage for their employees. Curbing the excesses of capitalism is why unions exist.
 
Strange question that literally has nothing to do with what I posted. We're not union, I would be the first to sign up if we were. I would fully support the nurses and all the support staff is they wanted to unionize. I'm pretty low on the totem pole.

If you'd like to doxx me further, I assure you I'm a pretty open book and have been for far longer than you've been here.
Perhaps not directly, but those making less than you certainly "fight" over the available salary pool for their level. You could "trickle down" some of what you make. Only seems fair.

I haven't nor would I doxx anyone. You may want to check your avatar. You said yourself "I'm a pretty open book". Had you chosen anonymity I wouldn't have asked the question as I did.

I'm all for people getting a fair wage and good benefits. I grew up in a "working" family. I don't think it's cool to screw over someone else to get them.
 
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Define: "Deserve".

Should airport trash collectors make more than any other trash collectors in the community? Why? Who decides how much money a trash collector should make? The union?

And if someone else is paying more for trash collectors than the airport (like maybe at the shopping mall), then WHY DON'T THEY SIMPLY QUIT AND WORK AT THE MALL? The airport would then have to raise wages to lure them back.

No union required.
What if no one will work for your offering? **** off.
 
Perhaps not directly, but those making less than you certainly "fight" over the available salary pool for their level. You could "trickle down" some of what you make. Only seems fair.

I haven't nor would I doxx anyone. You said yourself "I'm a pretty open book". Had you chosen anonymity I wouldn't have asked the question as I did.

I'm all for people getting a fair wage and good benefits. I grew up in a "working" family. I don't think it's cool to screw over someone else to get them.
You have no idea how much or where I donate money. I've long advocated for higher wages for the nurses and support staff. It's pathetic how low Iowa ranks in nursing salaries. And using my name and asking those specific questions is a really sad and pathetic way to try to intimidate me.

You support the very people screwing them over. Hint-it's not the customers or the workers.
 
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You have no idea how much or where I donate money. I've long advocated for higher wages for the nurses and support staff. It's pathetic how low Iowa ranks in nursing salaries. And using my name and asking those specific questions is a really sad and pathetic way to try to intimidate me.

You support the very people screwing them over. Hint-it's not the customers or the workers.
I did not nor would I use your name anywhere in my comments. That would be unacceptable. We are in complete agreement on that. FFS man look at your avatar. I didn't put it there...you did.

I'm all for nurses being well-paid. I'm not a healthcare worker but my career has put me in enough facilities that I know how critical and oft underappreciated they are. Complete agreement with you on that. There are working nurses in my family

You have no idea who "I support" as I've stated nothing to that effect. I simply stated that (back to the airline example in the OP) screwing over a family of 4 trying to get to Grandma's house only hurts more people.
 
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I simply stated that screwing over a family of 4 trying to get to Grandma's house is not the best way to achieve the desired result. It only hurts more people.
Workers can't strike without collateral damage in the marketplace. It's the only leverage they have. And public perception has shifted in their favor. People see a CEO making $31 million and paying workers so poorly they can't afford to live and they wonder why the company can't just pay more. It's really Trad's worst fvcking nightmare. :D
 
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — Workers who clean airplanes, remove trash and help with wheelchairs at Charlotte’s airport, one of the nation’s busiest, went on strike Monday during a busy week of Thanksgiving travel to demand higher wages.

The Service Employees International Union announced the strike in a statement early Monday, saying the workers would demand “an end to poverty wages and respect on the job during the holiday travel season.” The strike was expected to last 24 hours, said union spokesperson Sean Keady.

Employees of ABM and Prospect Airport Services cast ballots Friday to authorize the work stoppage at Charlotte Douglas International Airport, a hub for American Airlines. The two companies contract with American, one of the world’s biggest carriers, to provide services such as cleaning airplane interiors, removing trash and escorting passengers in wheelchairs.

Workers say they previously complained that they can’t afford basic necessities, including food, housing or car repairs. They described living paycheck to paycheck while performing jobs that keep planes running on schedule. Most of them earn between $12.50 and $19 an hour, union officials said.

“We’re on strike today because this is our last resort. We can’t keep living like this,” ABM cabin cleaner Priscilla Hoyle said in a statement. “We’re taking action because our families can’t survive.”

Several hundred workers were participating in the work stoppage. About 800 workers were affected by the union’s push for higher wages, but an exact number who walked off work was unclear, said union spokesperson Ana Tinsly.

Charlotte airport officials have said this holiday travel season is expected to be the busiest on record, with an estimated 1.02 million passengers departing the airport between last Thursday and the Monday after Thanksgiving. Airport officials said in a statement Monday morning that they were “monitoring and actively engaged with all partners to ensure terminal operations are not impacted,” noting that the striking workers aren’t employed by the city’s aviation department.

In addition to walking off the job, striking workers plan to hold a late-morning rally and a “Strikesgiving” lunch “in place of the Thanksgiving meal that many of the workers won’t be able to afford later this week,” union officials said.

“Airport service workers make holiday travel possible by keeping airports safe, clean, and running,” the union said.

ABM said it would take steps to minimize disruptions from any demonstrations.

“At ABM, we appreciate the hard work our team members put in every day to support our clients and help keep spaces clean and people healthy,” the company said in a statement last week.

Prospect Airport Services said last week that the company recognizes the seriousness of the potential for a strike during the busy holiday travel season.

Is that a bad thing?
 
You suck. You are a generally disgusting person. You suck.
LoL. You mad bro? Whole lot of stupid and hate in this thread.

The onus is on the contractor union of the employees to ensure they are paid a livable wage and prevent a walk out. It should also be on Charlotte International Airport to ensure all contractors pay a livable wage since they receive federal funding.

No need to get personal because your views differ from others. And you can’t compare wages of licensed nurses to employees hired to clean, empty trash, and help people from gate to gate that need assistance via wheel chair or motor transport.
 
Bullshit. There are only so many "new" licensed nurses, you moron.
Not sure about your facilities but at least some nursing homes are now having to compete with hospitals to retain their LPNs.

When the Federal COVID teat dried up some hospitals were forced to find a way to move away from expensive travel RNs.

A number of hospitals decided when patient care wasn't compromised to replace some RNs with LPNs when possible.

Cost savings for hospitals.... cost increases for nursing homes.
 
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LoL. You mad bro? Whole lot of stupid and hate in this thread.

The onus is on the contractor union of the employees to ensure they are paid a livable wage and prevent a walk out. It should also be on Charlotte International Airport to ensure all contractors pay a livable wage since they receive federal funding.

No need to get personal because your views differ from others. And you can’t compare wages of licensed nurses to employees hired to clean, empty trash, and help people from gate to gate that need assistance via wheel chair or motor transport.
You got your opinion. If they decide to walk out, we will see what happens.
My folks have needed wheel chair assistance and have been happy with the service.
Of course I am mad at trad. He is a longtime asshole on these boards.
Do you have any insights into trad posts in similar threads?
Nah. OK.
 
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LoL. You mad bro? Whole lot of stupid and hate in this thread.

The onus is on the contractor union of the employees to ensure they are paid a livable wage and prevent a walk out. It should also be on Charlotte International Airport to ensure all contractors pay a livable wage since they receive federal funding.

No need to get personal because your views differ from others. And you can’t compare wages of licensed nurses to employees hired to clean, empty trash, and help people from gate to gate that need assistance via wheel chair or motor transport.
Are you saying those doing that work can not strike for higher pay?
 
Are you saying those doing that work can not strike for higher pay?
The onus is on their union to get them higher pay. There is no need to strike when you are making that kind of money to do menial tasks. They can strike but it will just hurt them in the end by only getting paid a portion of their hourly wage by the union as their representative as they sit on the sideline doing nothing.
 
Workers can't strike without collateral damage in the marketplace. It's the only leverage they have. And public perception has shifted in their favor. People see a CEO making $31 million and paying workers so poorly they can't afford to live and they wonder why the company can't just pay more. It's really Trad's worst fvcking nightmare. :D
I would like to believe a lot of this but somehow Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college vote, and his base is cheering on each new billionaire he selects for a leadership position.
 
Avoid a wheelchair, sport. My son-in-law law rolls right thru there in his chair. He is more active than you, obviously.
Are you really saying other terminals are cleaner? BS
Your whine about unions is old and pitiful.
Damn are you part owner or something? Taking this awfully personal.
 
I would like to believe a lot of this but somehow Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college vote, and his base is cheering on each new billionaire he selects for a leadership position.
But they also overwhelmingly support abortion services and a hike in the minimum wage. Those proposals passed in Arkansas! A large % of his base worships him but they don’t support his positions. Weird as fvck.
 
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Good or not good, we will see. The last 2 times flying in to/out of CLT, there were baggage issues. This time we are doing only carry on. If my flights are screwed up because of this, that is strike 3, and I will no longer fly through CLT.

I don't see why it would unless you need wheelchair assistance through CLT. I'm sure you'll still find an empty garbage can to throw something away and pickup after yourself on the plane. I don't think the pilots are striking, you should be fine.
 
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