Workplace enforcement raids are back

[IAFB2021Champs]

The Farm Bureau reports that over 42% of our food production workers are undocumented. It's time to hit them and the bosses that employ them. Cows won't get milked, meat won't get processed, crops won't get picked, but we can get these hard working brown people out of our country.

I know a bunch of you keep bitching about kicking out the cheap labor but I think it’s great.
Some of these companies will be forced to pay better wages and lower/middle class people can get some better paying jobs.
Prices will go up but they will also be making more money. Some might actually get ahead a little in life.

 

[Rifler]

The immigrants working on the dairies are better and more trustworthy employees than the 4th-5th gen locals who lacked the ambition or education to move on..

And those in this category should be given the opportunity to document their status...

 

[lucas80]

I know a bunch of you keep bitching about kicking out the cheap labor but I think it’s great.
Some of these companies will be forced to pay better wages and lower/middle class people can get some better paying jobs.
Prices will go up but they will also be making more money. Some might actually get ahead a little in life.

1. Do demographics support your assertion that these jobs can be filled by US workers? By US workers who live locally?
2. Won’t those ballooning wages and benefits create inflationary pressure?

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

Quite a few of the larger operations definitely were employing immigrants and there's always an undocumented family member or two..I loaned a lot of money to these dairies, so I was on these farms daily, especially in NE Iowa/SE Minnesota.

Haha that’s a good one.
A lib like you would never set foot in small town ne Iowa and se Minnesota. You’d quit your made up job before doing that.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

1. Do demographics support your assertion that these jobs can be filled by US workers? By US workers who live locally?

Has anyone ever moved for a job before?

2. Won’t those ballooning wages and benefits create inflationary pressure?

Are these places now producing less even if they have the same positions filled? Or are they now buying more because they can afford items they couldn’t afford before?

 

[Rifler]

1. Do demographics support your assertion that these jobs can be filled by US workers? By US workers who live locally?
2. Won’t those ballooning wages and benefits create inflationary pressure?

1. These jobs can be filled by US "approved" workers. Which could either be citizens or documented immigrants authorized to work in the US.
2. Uncontrolled wage increases can drive inflation, but what we have now is tantamount to indentured servitude. We need something in betweeen these two extremes.

 

[SalAunese]

Haha that’s a good one.
A lib like you would never set foot in small town ne Iowa and se Minnesota. You’d quit your made up job before doing that.

Lib? I grew up there. I'm well acquainted with the area and still have home on the MN side of the border. I Farmed 1200 acres of my grandmother's ground until she passed, now it's rented out. As for pizza, Mabes doesn't hold a candle to Saxon Hall up in Brownsville.

 

[BioHawk]

ICE nabs 7 illegal immigrants during Philadelphia car wash raid

Agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Philadelphia announced that an operation led to the arrest of seven illegal immigrants during a car wash raid.

www.foxnews.com

Weird that when trying to find these so called lazy criminals the first places ICE goes are places where people are working jobs.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Now do orange groves.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Who are going to pick the oranges for 11 bucks an hour?

Now do orange groves.

Now do titties.

 

[Aardvark86]

That's how you get serious on immigration. That's also why we'll never get serious about immigration. Instead articles like this will be written as red meat for the simple among us.

yep. while both parties are at fault and rightfully subject to enforcement, only one bears the brunt of it.

 

[ping72]

Thanks for the laugh.

One of hundreds of sources with the same information. Congrats on making yourself look ignorant… again.

https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/resources/ice_warrants_summary.pdf

 

[alaskanseminole]

Who are going to pick the oranges for 11 bucks an hour?

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Oooo, I like that. I guess that rig is pricier than illegals?

 

[4ohs]

Funny how the feds always find them at work, and not sitting on their ass at home.

How many executives were arrested for employing them?

Seriously. Every single person I talk about this with agrees we should punishing the employers.

Yet they have no answers as we haven’t. At all.

Illegals wouldn’t be coming here if they couldn’t find work. Why is that so hard for people to understand.

 

[4ohs]

Back in the late 90’s. There was an ICE raid on a Tyson plant in northern Iowa. Something like 500 people using the same SS number. Just ridiculous.

Tyson wasn’t punished at all for this.

 

[hawki4ever]

Haha that’s a good one.
A lib like you would never set foot in small town ne Iowa and se Minnesota. You’d quit your made up job before doing that.

Sal a lib? JFC

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Oooo, I like that. I guess that rig is pricier than illegals?

1. You have to pay extra to get an illegal to jiggle her goods like that...

2. John deere took Iowa from 40 acres and a white fence to 2000 acres and an operation that runs on satellites.

 

[ISUBryce]

I know a bunch of you keep bitching about kicking out the cheap labor but I think it’s great.
Some of these companies will be forced to pay better wages and lower/middle class people can get some better paying jobs.
Prices will go up but they will also be making more money. Some might actually get ahead a little in life.

Iowa has 3.2% unemployment. How much would you have to be paid to move to rural Iowa to work in a dairy operation?

 

[Hawki97]

Haha that’s a good one.
A lib like you would never set foot in small town ne Iowa and se Minnesota. You’d quit your made up job before doing that.

I asked you earlier, which shitty small trashy Iowa town are you from? Looks like we’ve narrowed it down to NE Iowa trash.

 

[SalAunese]

I know a bunch of you keep bitching about kicking out the cheap labor but I think it’s great.
Some of these companies will be forced to pay better wages and lower/middle class people can get some better paying jobs.
Prices will go up but they will also be making more money. Some might actually get ahead a little in life.

When my BIL asked us about locations to set up new plants, he installed one in Iowa for one reason. Access to cheap, unskilled labor.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

Iowa has 3.2% unemployment. How much would you have to be paid to move to rural Iowa to work in a dairy operation?

Well I grew up in NE Iowa working on my aunt and uncles farm. Unfortunately I wouldn’t have been able to do that today because of age restrictions.
Anyway, I’d love to live back around there but sadly not many jobs exist that pay decently.
Working on a farm is hard work but more of the time was much more enjoyable than sitting on my butt all day in an office setting.
The thing that sucks about farming is that it is 7 days a week. Unless you work for someone, but as we have discussed here, it doesn’t pay enough.
Idk what sort of pay/benefits it would take.
I guess a better question might be how much it would take for most on this site. Might be a better way to negotiate as most on here wouldn’t want to do physical activity.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

When my BIL asked us about locations to set up new plants, he installed one in Iowa for one reason. Access to cheap, unskilled labor.

So you want unskilled labor? Looks like he bought into DEI.

 

[praguehawk]

ICE nabs 7 illegal immigrants during Philadelphia car wash raid

Agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Philadelphia announced that an operation led to the arrest of seven illegal immigrants during a car wash raid.

www.foxnews.com

Were these guys violent criminals? My understanding is that is where they were going to focus and limit it. I wasn’t supposed to get worked up about any of this cause the plan was just to make us safer by getting rid of dangerous criminals.

 

[SalAunese]

So you want unskilled labor? Looks like he bought into DEI.

No, it's just eastern Iowa. Most manufacturing/production jobs are largely unskilled unless you're a tool/die guy, electrician or robotics expert.

 

[SalAunese]

The thing that sucks about farming is that it is 7 days a week. Unless you work for someone, but as we have discussed here, it doesn’t pay enough.

Grain farming isn't 7 days a week, dairy operations are, as with most livestock intensive businesses. I can remember the dairies losing their asses in 2016-2018.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

No, it's just eastern Iowa. Most manufacturing/production jobs are largely unskilled unless you're a tool/die guy, electrician or robotics expert.

And what other manufacturing/production jobs are in eastern Iowa that aren’t tool/die, electrician or robotics expert? Curious what unskilled manufacturing/production jobs are around there.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

The offending HR departments need to be raided as well...

They won't be otherwise Trump would have to raid his own HR department.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

Grain farming isn't 7 days a week, dairy operations are, as with most livestock intensive businesses. I can remember the dairies losing their asses in 2016-2018.

Here is your quote below from earlier where we were talking about dairy farms. Not sure why you’re now bringing up grain farming.
Dairy farmers did lose their asses. Forced my aunt and uncle to get out of the business. Century old farm that had transitioned to full on dairy where they were milking a few hundred head a day. Guess they weren’t in line for all the handouts the day they were giving them out.

The immigrants working on the dairies are better and more trustworthy employees than the 4th-5th gen locals who lacked the ambition or education to move on..

 

[SalAunese]

They all got margin coverage program checks but when your expenses such as feed get too high or you're taking money out of the operation for personal living expenses, you're going to find it hard to succeed. 2016 was pretty bad in particular. I'm guessing they incurred some major costs during that transition. I've seen people lose their asses because they spent too much on genetics too.

 

[SalAunese]

And what other manufacturing/production jobs are in eastern Iowa that aren’t tool/die, electrician or robotics expert? Curious what unskilled manufacturing/production jobs are around there.

Almost any simple machine operating/assembly and Agri processing jobs are considered unskilled labor.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

Almost any simple machine operating/assembly and Agri processing jobs are considered unskilled labor.

So no many unskilled jobs in ne or eastern Iowa then.

 

[SalAunese]

So no many unskilled jobs in ne or eastern Iowa then.

There are a ton. Ever been to Cedar Rapids? Clinton? Burlington? Waterloo?

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

There are a ton. Ever been to Cedar Rapids? Clinton? Burlington? Waterloo?

I guess I was more on the page on ne iowa as we started off discussing ne Iowa and se Minnesota. I’m guessing parts of Minnesota have some cheap unskilled labor as well.
Heck I’d bet most parts of Iowa have cheap unskilled labor. Not just eastern Iowa.

 

[Rifler]

They won't be otherwise Trump would have to raid his own HR department.

Perhaps not,.. but Trump won't be the primary driver of that decision.

 

[50kWidowmaker]

One of hundreds of sources with the same information. Congrats on making yourself look ignorant… again.

https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/resources/ice_warrants_summary.pdf

You are the one who is ignorant on this subject. Your link is regarding administrative ICE warrants, not federal warrants. A huge distinction.

This is what you said earlier. What you said below is laughably incorrect.

Most of the time it actually is. You can deny them access from entering if they only have a federal warrant. A local judge has to also sign one; and in most places they won’t do that just to go check if there might be illegals inside.

 

[ISUBryce]

Well I grew up in NE Iowa working on my aunt and uncles farm. Unfortunately I wouldn’t have been able to do that today because of age restrictions.
Anyway, I’d love to live back around there but sadly not many jobs exist that pay decently.
Working on a farm is hard work but more of the time was much more enjoyable than sitting on my butt all day in an office setting.
The thing that sucks about farming is that it is 7 days a week. Unless you work for someone, but as we have discussed here, it doesn’t pay enough.
Idk what sort of pay/benefits it would take.
I guess a better question might be how much it would take for most on this site. Might be a better way to negotiate as most on here wouldn’t want to do physical activity.

I did Ag construction for years building steel grain bins. Actually kind of like hard work outside. Look back on it fondly.

I don’t think you could pay me enough to go work on a dairy farm. Quite frankly god bless anybody working with livestock, sounds truly awful to me. Probably would take 150-200k a year for me to even consider it.

 

[IAFB2021Champs]

I did Ag construction for years building steel grain bins. Actually kind of like hard work outside. Look back on it fondly.

I don’t think you could pay me enough to go work on a dairy farm. Quite frankly god bless anybody working with livestock, sounds truly awful to me. Probably would take 150-200k a year for me to even consider it.

Fvck I about jumped out of my chair running back there to work for that type of pay.
Yet people being paid a quarter of that to do it and wonder why no one but illegals will do that type of work. People would love to do it if they were paid accordingly.

 

[ISUBryce]

Fvck I about jumped out of my chair running back there to work for that type of pay.
Yet people being paid a quarter of that to do it and wonder why no one but illegals will do that type of work. People would love to do it if they were paid accordingly.

That’s my whole point with all of this. We have a state with 3.2% unemployment and rural areas have been shrinking for decades. It’s going to take some serious coin to get people back out there.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

ICE nabs 7 illegal immigrants during Philadelphia car wash raid

Agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Philadelphia announced that an operation led to the arrest of seven illegal immigrants during a car wash raid.

www.foxnews.com

Seven (7)???

 

[SalAunese]

That’s my whole point with all of this. We have a state with 3.2% unemployment and rural areas have been shrinking for decades. It’s going to take some serious coin to get people back out there.

It's going to take more than serious coin to get people to move back to the rural areas. It's not just jobs, but amenities, recreational activities and like-minded people. There are some really boring, simple-minded people in these areas as well.