I've always wondered if idiots were self aware. Given how you post I'll go with they aren't.
Would Springfield OH Hospitals Be Getting Bo*mb Thre*ts If It Were Not for Trump?
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He wouldn't need to do all of this if elections weren't being stolen!!!!!
I am quoting both your post and my response. YOU MADE THAT CLAIM IN THE LINK YOU POSTED.You claim they came in 2018, but where is proof of that? Most of what I have seen talks about most of them coming in the past 2 years.
Trump also allowed refugees, so I'm not denying some might have come in 2018. Biden has allowed more Haitians to come and extended their protection.
Are you claiming there were 20k Haitians in Springfield in 2018?
U.S. broadens immigration program for Haitian migrants, citing humanitarian crisis
The Biden administration cited the deteriorating humanitarian crisis in the destitute Caribbean nation, which has been beset by an outbreak of violence.www.cbsnews.com
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So what is the residents are pissed that biden and Harris did this. **** off with the "it's legal bc we made it legal haha" argument.
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. I didn't know how many came in 2018 vs under biden. I believe you that some came under trump.
I also believe that more came under biden. Springfield could handle some refugees, but they can't handle 20k of them.
So what is your point?
So you think there is 0% chance a Haitian ate a goose or a cat? Americans eat geese and they are delicious, why wouldn't a Haitian eat one if they could catch it easily in a park?
I think it is possible they ate a goose or a cat, but im not positive it happened. But I don't care. This is like click bait for an article. It draws you in but it may or may not have substance to it.
The cat or dog issue is secondary to the actual immigrant problem imo.
So it’s ok when Drumpy lets em in but not Biden. Holee fook…You claim they came in 2018, but where is proof of that? Most of what I have seen talks about most of them coming in the past 2 years.
Trump also allowed refugees, so I'm not denying some might have come in 2018. Biden has allowed more Haitians to come and extended their protection.
Are you claiming there were 20k Haitians in Springfield in 2018?
U.S. broadens immigration program for Haitian migrants, citing humanitarian crisis
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Guess I’ll list it as non-zero chance it happened then also. But what exactly is the problem here? They’re arrived legally, as far as I know, no major crimes or anything have occurred, they’re gainfully employed/supporting their families that are there, etc?
Sounds like the problem, if there is one, is the same that every American community absorbing immigrants has encountered.
The implication from Trump and Vance couldn’t be more clear, that there’s something nefarious going on. Can you explain this better, or is it just the basic problem of a small city in Ohio having to handle a large number of immigrants into their community. Which is challenging, and not simple, but isn’t anything we’ve ever had to deal with before.
I don’t care when they came in…the key point is that they’re here LEGALLY.
Better add it to the Trump vs machine thread.
Nothing to see here Dems, your candidate is entirely legit.
Yet this is what your guy throws out there during a nationally televised debate. What an ultra moran.
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And he succeeded in forcing the left to finally talk about the issues from their illegal immigration crisis. 1000 IQ play
500 in Springfield by either is OK. 20k in Springfield by either guy is not OK. You guys are working really hard to spin this. Lol 😆
It's almost laughable watching so many posters here try and claim trump started this when it was a couple hundred people only that turns into 10s of thousands under biden/harris. As you say, it doesn't matter which side does it. Dumping 20k people into a town of 50k is going to fail massively
Republicans have had an issue with the open border for a long time now. We have claimed that biden opened the border and helped bring more refugees in than we should.
Springfield is just the most recent example of the immigrant issue, bit this is happening in cities all across the country.
It cost a ton of money from the government to take care of these people and it strains the resources in a community. It hurts the moral of citizens to see immigrants get free handouts while they are struggling to make ends meet.
People want to receive timely healthcare instead of having to wait behind immigrants. They want their kids to learn in a class where people speak English.
Biden did everything he could to bring more immigrants here and people are tired of it.
You keep spouting the same BS, and it never smells any different.
I guess this is the idea behind Pelosi and schumer wanting to grant amnesty to 11million illegals. They wany people like you just to embrace it as long as they're legal now.
As Vance said, there are police reports of it happening. His constituents were complaining to him about it. There are a bunch of Haitians overwhelming the city of Springfield. I think he made his point.
You started out by saying all of them were on the Biden administration. Then, as usual, you moved the goal posts. The truth is that you have no direct proof for any of your claims. None. Nada. Zilch.
But that has never stopped you.
Looks like once again, you should stick to what you know, Gumby >
So give me the exact number that came into Springfield under trump vs the number under biden.
I have been using estimates for my numbers, but you can't get past the idea that trump let some in. So how many did he let in? Maybe you could break down the exact number that came to Springfield per year.
Who was in the WH when these Haitian immigrants were welcomed into Springfield OH starting in 2018?
Do you live in Ohio? If not maybe you should shut your f.ucking mouth about a subject you clearly know nothing about, Mr. Smoothbrain.
Ooo, someones angry.
Sounds like you don't know a whole lot either since springfield officials didn't even know they were going to get all these immigrants and now are opening an investigation.
Springfield mayor: Investigation into businesses, immigration continues
Springfield officials were in the dark about the possibility of a large immigrant relocation to the area, Mayor Rob Rue said at the recent Springfield City Commission meeting, but a “network of businesses knew what was coming.”Investigation by the city’s Immigrant Accountability Response Team formed in October of 2023 has revealed the possibility “there were companies that knew they were going to make an effort to bring in individuals who were crossing the border based on federal regulations that they could do that,” Rue said. “I’m upset at the fact we didn’t get a chance to have an infrastructure in place if there were going to be 20,000 more people from 2020 to 2025. We didn’t get to do that.”
“Springfield is now saturated,” Rue said during the meeting when talk turned to Haitian immigration.
Asked by a city resident how many more immigrants might be coming to the area and about city interactions “with the people who have planned this,” Rue responded, “We’re not interacting with them, we’re investigating.”
>> Springfield leaders talk growing Haitian population with federal government
Rue later added the city investigations are ongoing, but he indicated a report will be forthcoming once they are assured that they can do so without compromising any potential legal action.
“We want to make sure that the investigation is complete and we don’t ruin the investigation of anything before we’re able to speak to it,” he said, adding state and federal agencies also are involved in investigations.
The city formed the Immigrant Accountability Response Team in response to community outrage following a fatal accident involving a Northwestern school bus hit by a minivan driven by an unlicensed Haitian driver. The man crossed in front of the bus that then overturned, resulting in the death of an 11-year old boy and injuries to about two dozen children.
The driver is currently appealing involuntary manslaughter and fourth-degree felony vehicular homicide convictions.
Thousands of Haitians are in Springfield on Temporary Protected Status.
>> How could Temporary Protected Status extension for Haitians affect Springfield?
Rue said the Immigrant Accountability Response Team is comprised of a group of city staff members and has focused its investigations into three areas: immigrant employment, housing and driver instruction. The group is also consulting with state and federal investigative agencies in conjunction with those issues.
If they had known what to expect, he said, the city would have taken steps to “hire 25 more police officers and 25 firefighters … along with making sure individuals already living here and faithfully paying rent would not be displaced because of the greed of landlords. We would have been ahead of that or tried to combat it … we did not get to do that.”
Strides have been made by the Response Team, which has worked with the Ohio Department of Public Safety and Bureau of Motor Vehicles to develop drivers training programs tailored to address the language needs of Haitian immigrants and driver’s training needed to improve public safety. Advances have also led to expanded opportunities for Haitians to participate in English language classes locally.
>> Haitian-led community center identifies challenges, pressing needs for immigrant population
Rue again clarified Springfield is not a sanctuary city in response to another inquiry.
While city officials adopted a resolution 10 years ago declaring Springfield a “welcoming city,” Rue said, “That doesn’t mean we are actively bringing immigrants into our community that can’t handle the influx of folks.”
Concerns about public safety have also been the focus of city efforts, as they have tried to get the attention of state and federal governments who have no programs or funding in place to help.
>>Haitian immigrants in Springfield face complex immigration system and long delays
Rue criticized the federal government for permitting expanded immigration while providing no support to the communities absorbing thousands of new residents.
“We have taken this to our congressman … we should have the right amount of safety forces to take care of everyone who is here. If we have 12 to 15 thousand more people than we have budgeted to care for, we’re in trouble,” the mayor said.
Another conversation at the commission session centered on housing affordability and the housing shortfall that has been driving up rents, often resulting in the eviction of long-time tenants who can no longer afford to stay in their homes.
City officials shared the frustration expressed by residents about the increasing ownership of housing by Limited Liability Corporations (LLCs) from outside the community. Rue said the city is looking into what options might be available to address the problems created by LLC ownership of properties in the city.
>> Clark County officials talk in DC about needs with growing Haitian population
Commissioner Bridget Houston indicated her recent exploration of the issue revealed one of five property purchases in the country is now by an LLC for investment purposes.
According to Rue, the Clark County Combined Health District will provide information and statistics from a new report about the influx of immigrants to the community at a work session preceding the next Springfield City Commission meeting on July 16.
Springfield mayor: Investigation into businesses, immigration continues
Springfield's mayor addressed resident questions and concerns about the increased Haitian immigrant population in the city and said a group looking into key issues would prepare a public report.
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