In case you can't tell, this German display honors Snowden, Assange and Manning.
You Won't See This Statue In America
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Good opportunity for someone with photoshopping skills to add nooses around their necks to show how the display would look in the US.
Wow! Cool deal. Why are they posed standing on chairs?
I guess that's another example of Symbolism and how it can vary from person to person. I look at those people as heroes. Others see them as traitors.
Some people see this as a flag of treason, others see it as a flag of liberty:
I guess that's another example of Symbolism and how it can vary from person to person. I look at those people as heroes. Others see them as traitors.
Some people see this as a flag of treason, others see it as a flag of liberty:
Just incase anyone wonders who these people are:
http://www.euronews.com/2015/05/01/snowden-assange-and-manning-statues-unveiled-in-berlin/
I encourage some research on the WikiLeaks founder and ask yourself if you WANT a statue honoring him.
http://www.euronews.com/2015/05/01/snowden-assange-and-manning-statues-unveiled-in-berlin/
I encourage some research on the WikiLeaks founder and ask yourself if you WANT a statue honoring him.
If anything this is a good display of the worlds hate towards our government. Only our own people are oblivious to who and what our government really is.In case you can't tell, this German display honors Snowden, Assange and Manning.
If people would be less tribal and more unified with each other, and focus more on how the governing powers are responsible for most (if not all) of the misery ever cast upon the masses, then I think we'd be much better off.
Exactly, and the fact that we sit there arguing with each other on facebook all day long about this and that, doesn't help. I'm primed to get involved again this election process, if not just for the simple fact of seeing how it all goes down once more. Get a feel for the process, and shenanigans behind the scenes.
Well, I can tell you that I poured my heart, soul, sweat, money, time, enthusiasm and a lot more in the 2007-08 Ron Paul campaign. I went almost 24-7 for almost 2 years. It was one of the most rewarding, growing, and learning experiences of my life. I did it pretty strong in 2011/12, but the first one was special. That was when he was never even mentioned and it ballooned in a matter of months. That's a once-in-a-lifetime thing. I realized, later, how much success and influence that whole movement created. I learned actually a lot more about the corruption and rigged aspects than I cared to know. It can be very demoralizing. The delegate process and how the people who are in power break and make rules to stay in power, was the most frustrating. We had really made a presence by 2011/12 and the heads of most of the delegate processes in the GOP simply changed the rules rather than allow Ron Paul to be recognized fairly, because he would have won and had delegates going to conventions to vote FOR HIM. That is the essence and effectiveness of a Republic form of election and governance. He even told me to my face "Don't measure this by conventional means. The political process is slow and ineffective." It was hard to do that at first. but, now... I see the impact everywhere. He also alluded to "An idea or message who's time has come will make sense regardless of parties, politics and people in power."(paraphrased)
I'm a fan of Ron Paul and had he come home I would have voted for him. I think the best thing for him and his ideals would have been to give up his dreams of turning the republicans into libertarians and rejoined the LP. He would have been on the ballot in all 50 states and would have made quite a statement. He was never going to win regardless, but he could have moved many republicans with Libertarian hearts to their proper party. He had quite the following and he could have energized the movement to a third party. Unlike the issue parties and single shot parties like Perot or Nader, the libertarian party has a history and a presence. It's small, but consistant. I'm sad that Paul did not take his clout and bring it back to the party that actually shares his views. He would have instantly doubled our membership. I fear his insistence of trying to change the GOP from the inside out has instead made him a footnote of history and has resulted in no, or minimal gains for those of us who desire true freedom.
He figured the stage was bigger by playing the party game. It's sad that this country has devolved into that.
I wondered about that, too. My guess is that they are being depicted as standing on chairs to speak to people. We would say "soapbox."
At first I wondered what the person on the left was doing. Initially I thought they were just unveiling the monument. But then it occurred to me that the 4th chair was there for other people to climb up on to speak out - like Snowden, Assange and Manning did. If true, that's just cool.
Why don't you move there? You would raise the intelligence level in both countries.
The statue on the left looks very life like.In case you can't tell, this German display honors Snowden, Assange and Manning.
Think I will run this past our mayor...we can take down our Gen Hatton statue and put these 3 clowns up in its place.In case you can't tell, this German display honors Snowden, Assange and Manning.
I'm sure you meant "heroes" not "clowns."
OTOH, if you are one of those who thinks people who expose government wrongdoing are traitors, I cansee how you might think replacing a statue of one traitor with a display of 3 traitors is an upgrade.
Most of us don't expect our heroes to be without blemish - and can easily tell the good they have done and the values they have fought for from the occasional wart.
I agree - as long as your "governing powers" includes all concentrations of power - public, private and religious.
Well, it's mostly the economic powers. Government would be great if it weren't comprised of politicians.
The Germans were on the losing end of both world wars so they really don't have any statues of their own they can use.
these three are indeed heroes and probably are lucky to still be alive, usually the cia takes these types out with drones or whatever
It's a goal.
What's more, it's a VERY GOOD goal.
It's like "do no harm." Even if you fail to fully live up to that laudatory aim, it's better to be striving in that direction than striving in the opposite direction.
As I said, it's a tender notion. There is wisdom in it. It dates back to ancient Mesopotamia, 1700 BC. Maybe they move the goalposts a lot. You'd think in 4,000 years of civilization it would be subconscious and a default mechanism. It's not. Or, maybe it worked well... then.
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