Yeah but our guy looks like the dumbshit this time
Zelenskyy/Trump press conference...
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Elections have consequences.
Hard to see how Ukraine can even remotely expect help from the US.
Putin is smiling, tho.
Hard to see how Ukraine can even remotely expect help from the US.
Putin is smiling, tho.
Vance and Trump lie, Make shit up and Vance then accused Zelenskyy of being disrespectful of the Oval Office. Self awareness not his strong point.
Nice work voting these embarrassing dipshits in.
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That'd be ideal, Ukraine go out and win it without us. Leave the Trump and Russia fuming
This shit is just absolutely embarrassing.
Typically world leaders have tact and understand they need to project calm and confidence. That's why the more heated discussions typically occur in private. This just continues to erode credibility except to those supporters who are unable to objectively criticize/those who misunderstand this to be "alpha" behavior.
Not an ounce of humility. He's been emboldened by the prior administration and globalist parasites that have been benefiting from his "war".
End it today, Trump.
End it today, Trump.
Yep, FUC YOU THUMP and VANCE,STFU.
This is the difference between people cosplaying as tough guys and actual tough men.
Talk about a couple of punks, Trump and Vance engaging in a pathetic put down of Zelinsky - totally uncalled for! Zelinsky should demand that the US be excluded from any peace negotiations with Russia. Trump is definitely in Putin's corner.
Ukraine and EU need to go at it alone. **** the USA and what a shit show we’ve become. Show the world the US is an awful ally and not needed anymore. I hope nothing but NK 2.0 for us.
'If republicans had even an ounce of dignity, the should be embarrassed as hell. But they don't.'
You must not have lived through Afghanistan and that Biden debate performance. Link to your disgust then please.
This is my position----> We should never have been involved in this from the beginning. I am not willing to spend American money and lives for Ukraine. The Democrats used to be the ones against getting tangled up in wars to stop opponents distant aggression. Did we not learn anything from Vietnam? Why wasn't Ukraine part of Nato? Real question. Think about that. Why doesnt Europe fix this themselves? Why do Americans always have to pay to 'save' Europe when Europe sure as hell can defend itself if they are interested in stopping Russia?
If Russia attacks a NATO member or something in our hemisphere, fine. They go after Greenland, I am there with you. I just don't get all the Ukraine love. I really don't.
You must not have lived through Afghanistan and that Biden debate performance. Link to your disgust then please.
This is my position----> We should never have been involved in this from the beginning. I am not willing to spend American money and lives for Ukraine. The Democrats used to be the ones against getting tangled up in wars to stop opponents distant aggression. Did we not learn anything from Vietnam? Why wasn't Ukraine part of Nato? Real question. Think about that. Why doesnt Europe fix this themselves? Why do Americans always have to pay to 'save' Europe when Europe sure as hell can defend itself if they are interested in stopping Russia?
If Russia attacks a NATO member or something in our hemisphere, fine. They go after Greenland, I am there with you. I just don't get all the Ukraine love. I really don't.
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And what is with the talk about conscripts being sent to the front?
Did the U.S. not rely on the draft in Vietnam, Korea, both world wars and the Civil War?
Ukraine is in an existential fight for its sovereignty and the draft dodger and fake hillbilly want to cry about conscription? F----ing cowards and morons.
Did the U.S. not rely on the draft in Vietnam, Korea, both world wars and the Civil War?
Ukraine is in an existential fight for its sovereignty and the draft dodger and fake hillbilly want to cry about conscription? F----ing cowards and morons.
Biden would've fallen asleep in the chair while reading the prepared note cards.
If we have elections again, if, I don't believe JD will be making a splash at all. If we have elections again Democrats will absolutely demolish Republicans which of course plays into that if I keep using.
This is correct. We can sell them arms and ammo. Im totally fine with that. We can advise them. Fine. But to give away American dollars with no chance of getting it back, supposedly, I am against that.
Russia, IMO, doesnt have eyes on further aggression. Just my guess.
The only good that has come of this is that Russia has been depleted of their own arms and material.
Our country is going broke, so is Europe. If Europe cant find the money, maybe Ukraine isn't worth defending.
Why didn't Ukraine have defense in place to prevent this? With Russia on their border and having just taken Crimea. Every country in the world needs to act like they are on their own. We cannot be the worlds police force for minor stuff like this. I do consider this minor. To be fair, Ukraine did an amazing job with their situation on their own with the help they had, but its time for this WW1 style stalemate to end. And no, that doesn't include Ukraine getting all of Ukraine back. Sorry it doesn't. I leave in realville. The rest of you live in a place where you want to throw American money to a guy leading a countries defense that has shown he is in a weak position.
Quite simply, if you all are not willing to risk real American lives and real American money on this and actually winning this, with our boots on the ground, we need this to be over and that involves telling Zalenskyy what's up. And Putin too.
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That would be ideal. Trump got pissed though so Trump sending weapons to Russia may not be off the table.
Who cares? They can give us our money and military aid back then.
Oh grow up…people raise their voices all the time. No BS is needed, put your cards on the table…at least it’s transparent.
Yep, HAVE THE BIG ONE THUMP, Your BP is sky high.
J.D. Vance is going to make a freaking fantastic President of the United States.
It won't be bothsides'ed. Instead it will actually be cheered on by the Fox supporters as "tough talk" and strong/alpha behavior from someone who "tells it like it is." The people saying this/supporting this are the type of people who have John Wayne pictures on their walls but are very soft/beta in reality. It's just science at this point.
Zenlenskyy would have beat the shit out of those two twerps, and I wish he had.
I don't know how Zelensky had the restraint to not knock those two fvckers out?
I really expect the NATO countries to drastically increase military support after what we saw today.
I really expect the NATO countries to drastically increase military support after what we saw today.
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I mean, it's a draft dodger and a pretend hillbilly cosplaying.
America is a global laughingstock.
I’m replying to my own post. Don’t give a F.
This is exactly right. The chief narcissist can take his need for 24/7 gratitude and praise and stick it up his orange ass
Tell the President and VP to grow up. This isn't a kid being scolded. This is diplomacy, i.e. "the profession, activity, or skill of managing international relations, typically by a country's representatives" and "the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and effective way." None of this was effective. Sad.
F*ck JD Vance. F*ck Donal Trump. F*ck anyone who ever bought their bullshit for even a second. Despicable.
trump locked the US into the withdrawal. And naive thinking like yours is what gets us into world wars.
