My point was never about what room a wrestler came from. Check the title of the thread... “Recruiting vs PSU.” My point is if you’re a kid that has been told all his life he could be a champion, he wants to go where the champions are. That’s current PSU, regardless of weight.
You're probably right but you forgot to mention that all their athletes can work at the NLWC for one summer and make enough to pay off all their student loans. Just one way to beat the system. Will someday make great politicians...
I have to be honest. PA makes no sense to me. How/why their HS Wrestling is so great is a bit of a mystery. 1st off, you do not seem to have the right kind of people in the state. 2nd, their knowledge and understanding of the sport just seems to be very low as a whole.Huh.... I could have sworn that the Hawkeyes were the current champions.
Listen buddy, you're going down in flames, the psu dude said they commit to PSU for less money to become National and world champs.
Lol, PSU people always are off by a year (when saying Beard graduated in 2019) or short T&T saying they won 4 NCAA titles between them. Tom 3, Terry 2. 3+2 =4. Lol, it ruins your credibility when you all err to your benefit. If they're honest mistakes we would see examples both benefitting and hurting your point. That isn't the case.
Listen buddy, recruits probably do go there for less (just like they do for Iowa) with the idea that it's their best shot to become a world champ.
I'm going on number of champs, not championships. How many guys could you take to that level? tOSU and PSU both have 2. If we're going on number of titles, it's actually Nebraska, but they're all from one guy. I give the tie break to PSU because Stieber's was in the weird non-olympic championships in 2016 and was never able to medal again. Either way, they still have the most champs at 2.
Lots of words for a post that doesn't have a coherent point anywhere in it
What on earth does this mean?
It means that 5 of Iowa’s starters were PA high school wrestlers.
Look at all the things that make up great wrestlers. Things like Sportsmanship, honor, courage, discipline, which all goes hand in hand with morals and values. Then look at the turds you have posting here!!!! As I have said, it is a very tiny sample, but these are suppose to be Wrestling fans, wrestlers, ex-wrestlers, etc......
Look... I stated in a previous post... my original point was NOT who gets credit for what medals. You got me there. All you said is 100% accurate. This is is a thread about recruiting “Recruiting vs PSU.” My point, again, is that when PSU is recruiting, be it a HS kid or a freestyle world champ, all they need to do is open the doors at the Lorenzo Wrestling Complex and let them take a peek inside at a practice. There are medals filling the room everywhere you look. My point, again, is that’s what Iowa and others are recruiting against. The HWC currently has memories filling their room. The Ohio RTC currently has one world medalist, who is on their roster in name only.
I'm thrilled you believe PSU has the best room in the country. I don't doubt it's a draw for recruits. They typically recruit 20 top 10 recruits a year but again you either didn't read the entire thread or assumed it was a pissing match about who had more world champs in which case I'd agree with your take. The point is psuman brought it on himself by misquoted stats. That is the crux of the argument and why you caught my ire. Harsh maybe but I was pissed.
I concur, but your colleague was leading the reader to in inaccurate conclusion and I'll jump on that correction all day.. This should have been the argument in the first place.
If this is the standard then Paul Jenn is the highest end wrestler in the history of the sport.
He certainly wasn't a scrub, but he also wasn't a legit title contender while at Drexel.
To be honest, he has progressed about as much as someone might have predicted, given his pedigree. It’s not like coming to Iowa has suddenly made him elite. He was the 6 seed heading into nationals last year. The 4 seed this year. Not much better than what he did at Drexel, all things considered.
You're telling me while he was at Drexel you thought he'd be a legit finals contender and would be ranked #1 at some point in his career?
Well he’s a PSU fan so being ranked #1 after Gulibon was.....................nevermind it’s not worth explaining how Gray’s mind works.
Of course he progressed. You're brain dead if you don't recognize he was a high end transfer.
Classic case of you all are right. Except gray, he’s all the way wrong, all the time. Haha. Desanto should’ve AA’d at drexel but as it is, he didn’t. He has improved his placement every year. He was a highly sought after transfer and he has shown why. He wasn’t the number one or two p4p type of transfer...or 3rd at NCAA’s or a finalist for that matter...but in all seriousness, the guy downplaying it will say desanto was a 1x state champ and rd of 12 before Iowa and the guy overstating it will say he beat Spencer Lee to win that state title and was a hiccup away from AA’ing as a true frosh and should’ve received a full ride for his transfer. In reality, he was somewhere in between. His upside was huge and his gas tank even bigger. He has exceeded my expectations since coming to Iowa. He has beaten at least 3 ncaa champs and just took 3rd. That’s pretty good considering...
That's a realistic interpretation. F#$ it pains me to compliment someone who's named iowabandwagon.
That high seed was due to him beating an injured micic his freshman year. Micic smoked him when he was healthy, but anyone who's trying to imply he hasn't developed at Iowa is either a moron or a psu homer who can't cope with the simple truth that Iowa has been good for him. In your defense though I think you're just a moron.
Like I told your esteemed colleague (still can't believe you guys get off getting into pissing matches on HR but some people have a pathetic gene I hear) his #7 seed was due to beating an injured micic.
Although I don't really believe this, you do realize this dumbass observation could also apply to nearly ever Penn State wrestler.
