You’re twisted.Rape is horrible but abortion is worse.
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You’re twisted.Rape is horrible but abortion is worse.
Take it up with goldmom. She posted it ..LOLWUT?
The mother REPORTED it.
Rape is horrible but abortion is worse.
Watch the video again. What she said is there is no exception for the life or the health of the mother under the Ohio law. That is simply not true.The discussion was relating to the Ohio case.
That's the context and there were NO exceptions.
Plus, as the "exceptions" are written, they will result in the deaths of women who need an abortion, but must wait until "their life is in danger". If any abortion is delayed until sepsis sets in, things will end up badly for lots of women (and their partners)
Goldmom .... hahahahaThis is a very strange case. According to goldmom the mother is denying it and her daughter is doing fine. The person arrested admitted supposedly but who knows considering how easily police get confessions especially when there is a language barrier. The doctor in Indiana is required to report the rape even if it is legal to perform the abortion. Ohio appears to have handled the abuse allegations correctly but a doctor there apparently can't pick up the phone and call for clarification on performing an abortion.
Anyone claiming this is activism is a moron. The whole story is effed up. If it were activism this would be on a fast track to the supreme court if anyone got prosecuted in Ohio other than the alleged rapist and maybe the mother
By the way reports to child protection services are confidential. No way there is anything reliable that the mother reported it.
Your statement is a gross deception, blatant lie, and contemptible. No woman with an ectopic pregnancy or fetal demise will be denied appropriate care by the medical community. The SC decision hasn’t changed that. The well-being of the patient is paramount and drives the decision making by the care provider. Just propaganda from the abortion lobby, leftist media and their minions designed to create fear.So what?
There are 100,000 ectopic pregnancies, per year, in this country.
Thousands of miscarriages, which require abortion (or D&E) to properly resolve the problem.
YOUR PARTY wants to outlaw these procedures. In many cases UNTIL someone's life is in jeopardy, despite the MEDICAL FACT that they can be performed well in advance, BEFORE there are severe/serious complications.
Yes. They will.Your statement is a gross deception, blatant lie, and contemptible. No woman with an ectopic pregnancy or fetal demise will be denied appropriate care by the medical community.
And there you have it folks. Thanks for confirming how big of a POS you are.Rape is horrible but abortion is worse.
Who said God designed it?Then why would God design a system where thousands and thousands of fetuses "naturally abort"?
You’re way, way out over your skis here Joe. I don’t know what exactly a “pulsing cell” is, but the fetal heart is beating and the valves function. Yes fetal circulation is unique with blood transported differently because the fetus is receiving oxygen, nutrients,etc. from the birthing person through the umbilical cord. Fetal demise is diagnosed by the absence of heart tones and then ultrasound confirmation of no heart activity. Once fetal demise is confirmed, a discussion ensues between patient and provider to terminate the pregnancy. No state is going to interfere in this scenario.Yes. They will.
MAGA Legislatures are confirming this, everywhere.
Women MUST carry those ectopic pregnancies UNTIL they have a life-threatening condition.
Fetal heartbeat bills will PREVENT abortion even IF the fetus is "dead" and those cells are still pulsing. And FWIW, there IS NO HEARTBEAT until birth because there are NO heart valves functioning in a fetus. That's all man-made ultrasound enhancement.
You’re way, way out over your skis here Joe. I don’t know what exactly a “pulsing cell” is, but the fetal heart is beating and the valves function.
And yet, GOP legislatures are outlawing (or attempting to outlaw) abortions in those cases, too.Again, no law is going to prevent appropriate care here.
Did they not inform you in medical school that the sounds you hear on the ultrasound scans are "computer generated"............'Doc'........?You’re way, way out over your skis here Joe. I don’t know what exactly a “pulsing cell” is, but the fetal heart is beating and the valves function
You do realize the majority of abortions are not because of rape? You liberals like to solve for the 1%.
The same schtick as when there's a mass murder with guns, the "how dare you politicize this" crap. And from the same people and political party that "politicizes" made up and trivial nonsense as a main component of their message and strategies.It DID happen. A 10 year old was RAPED! And you guys used it to score political points! It's sick!
Just put him on ignore. Life is so much easierYou’re way, way out over your skis here Joe. I don’t know what exactly a “pulsing cell” is, but the fetal heart is beating and the valves function. Yes fetal circulation is unique with blood transported differently because the fetus is receiving oxygen, nutrients,etc. from the birthing person through the umbilical cord. Fetal demise is diagnosed by the absence of heart tones and then ultrasound confirmation of no heart activity. Once fetal demise is confirmed, a discussion ensues between patient and provider to terminate the pregnancy. No state is going to interfere in this scenario.
As for ectopic pregnancies, they carry a high risk for the birthing person and the fetal mortality is 100%. None survive. Most are managed emergently because of the risk. The health concern is for the mother in the case of ectopic pregnancies, not the fetus as it cannot survive. Again, no law is going to prevent appropriate care here.
Scare tactics by people who know the truth, but are taking advantage of a misinformed populace.
So you have factual medical information refuting what Joe stated?Just put him on ignore. Life is so much easier
I am pretty sure that every state has a close in age exception to statutory rape, so there is no way that last line can be true. That said, I can’t imagine my 13 or 11 yr old daughter having to become a mother, whether it was because of rape or a childhood mistake, so it’s not a super relevant fact to me.
You really think posting this type of garbage has any relevance to anything?
You don't know what a "heartbeat" is, either.Just put him on ignore. Life is so much easier
It does have relevance solely because it’s a huge national story. I also don’t see how it is garbage. The news organization interviews the mom. The mom says some wild things. Some eye opening things. The person who posted the tweet has some thoughts on possible reasons why…that make sense actually.You really think posting this type of garbage has any relevance to anything?
The doubling and tripling down on being horrible, horrendous people. Just garbage people. A garbage political movement.
The doctor already didSo you have factual medical information refuting what Joe stated?
So if you can’t “hear” it the heart is not beating? Of course, a 6 week fetuses heart is not functioning as a normal heart. Does that mean it’s not alive? The pro-abortion group has encountered a dilemma as ultrasound technology has improved and demonstrates a viable heart and human form early in gestation. It’s why many pro-abortionists have given up on that battle and now admit the fetus is alive and that killing it is justified because it’s the mother’s human right. Yet, if it’s alive doesn’t the baby have rights? Who protects them? I don’t expect we’ll solve this here.Did they not inform you in medical school that the sounds you hear on the ultrasound scans are "computer generated"............'Doc'........?
So if you can’t “hear” it the heart is not beating? Of course, a 6 week fetuses heart is not functioning as a normal heart. Does that mean it’s not alive? The pro-abortion group has encountered a dilemma as ultrasound technology has improved and demonstrates a viable heart and human form early in gestation. It’s why many pro-abortionists have given up on that battle and now admit the fetus is alive and that killing it is justified because it’s the mother’s human right. Yet, if it’s alive doesn’t the baby have rights? Who protects them? I don’t expect we’ll solve this here.
If that’s the case, there are some misinformed legislators out there and they will be educated. Again, I’m confident that the management of fetal demise and ectopic pregnancies will not change even with a restrictive abortion ban. We do what’s best for the patient. Not sure how to provide more clarity here.And yet, GOP legislatures are outlawing (or attempting to outlaw) abortions in those cases, too.
That is FACT
So if you can’t “hear” it the heart is not beating? Of course, a 6 week fetuses heart is not functioning as a normal heart. Does that mean it’s not alive? The pro-abortion group has encountered a dilemma as ultrasound technology has improved and demonstrates a viable heart and human form early in gestation. It’s why many pro-abortionists have given up on that battle and now admit the fetus is alive and that killing it is justified because it’s the mother’s human right. Yet, if it’s alive doesn’t the baby have rights? Who protects them? I don’t expect we’ll solve this here.
This is a very strange case. According to goldmom the mother is denying it and her daughter is doing fine. The person arrested admitted supposedly but who knows considering how easily police get confessions especially when there is a language barrier. The doctor in Indiana is required to report the rape even if it is legal to perform the abortion. Ohio appears to have handled the abuse allegations correctly but a doctor there apparently can't pick up the phone and call for clarification on performing an abortion.
Anyone claiming this is activism is a moron. The whole story is effed up. If it were activism this would be on a fast track to the supreme court if anyone got prosecuted
Take it up with goldmom. She posted it ..
By the way reports to child protection services are confidential. No way there is anything reliable that the mother reported it. She could have but it couldn't be confirmed
It does have relevance solely because it’s a huge national story. I also don’t see how it is garbage. The news organization interviews the mom. The mom says some wild things. Some eye opening things. The person who posted the tweet has some thoughts on possible reasons why…that make sense actually.
the abortion carve out is important for these type of situations. It’s a horrible situation that may actually make some GOP politicians agree that the carve out needs to remain
That's what a "heartbeat" isSo if you can’t “hear” it the heart is not beating?
If that’s the case, there are some misinformed legislators out there and they will be educated.
So if you can’t “hear” it the heart is not beating? Of course, a 6 week fetuses heart is not functioning as a normal heart. Does that mean it’s not alive? The pro-abortion group has encountered a dilemma as ultrasound technology has improved and demonstrates a viable heart