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[Sharky1203]

you specifically called out a CBS news article, and now that's the one I strategically "chose" because it had a lower rate...

also, please read the article. the higher the rate, the better for taxpayers, most of us at least. they are increasing the standard deduction. they are increasing the thresholds of each tax bracket. that means more income is either exempted from income tax, or it will take more income to move through each progressive tax bracket

it is in no way shape or form an increase in the income tax rate

You are 100% right, they moved the poverty level up, I can't fully remember, but I want to say $26.000 or there abouts. That means anyone under that gets no increase. The rest will go up. How much depends on the income level. You're missing the point THEY NEED TO STOP SPENDING SO DAMN MUCH, that way no one has to pay more taxes.

And a side note, if you like taxes so much, get your employer to give you a new W-4 form and claim Single and 0. Then when you file your taxes at the end of the year, where it says how much of this refund do you want, put $0. That way you can do your part for the Democracy.

 

[jneffer]

You are 100% right, they moved the poverty level up, I can't fully remember, but I want to say $26.000 or there abouts. That means anyone under that gets no increase. The rest will go up. How much depends on the income level. You're missing the point THEY NEED TO STOP SPENDING SO DAMN MUCH, that way no one has to pay more taxes.

And a side note, if you like taxes so much, get your employer to give you a new W-4 form and claim Single and 0. Then when you file your taxes at the end of the year, where it says how much of this refund do you want, put $0. That way you can do your part for the Democracy.

understanding what the standard deduction is (it is not the poverty level) and how a progressive tax system functions doesn't mean i want to pay more in taxes.

 

[IRONBIRD]

Anyone who @MAGAman or @IRONBIRD endorses is a a horrible politician.

Everything you say is complete garbage! There is no possible way you were in the military unless you joined because of special interest. My guess would be a girl trying to become a man!!!

 

[Sharky1203]

understanding what the standard deduction is (it is not the poverty level) and how a progressive tax system functions doesn't mean i want to pay more in taxes.

Well if that's the case, then stop sending people who continue to up your taxes. Democrat or Republican. We over spend on stupid stuff that has zero benefit of the US. Pet projects should be unconditional. That's the function of the Local and State Governments.

 

[jneffer]

Well if that's the case, then stop sending people who continue to up your taxes. Democrat or Republican. We over spend on stupid stuff that has zero benefit of the US. Pet projects should be unconditional. That's the function of the Local and State Governments.

i'd want to shift the conversation away from your misunderstanding of that article too

continue on your general political rant...

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

Curiosity got the best of me...
Name some politicians you endorse.

I don't typically endorse politicians. Politicians are almost all narcissistic self interested scumbags. I'm an independent and vote for representatives pragmatically based on the most impactful issues at any given time. By far the single most important policy issue at the moment is the adherence to the constitution and defense of democracy. Almost the entirety of the GQP at all levels of government is anti-democracy and pro fascism. The fact that Trump is by far the leading GQP candidate is evidence of this.

Filling out my ballot is easy. I Google the GQP candidate's name along with "Trump" "2020 election" and "January 6th" and read the results and their position and prior comments on those things. Almost always, they are nutjob Trump cultists who claim the election was stolen and that Jan. 6 was a peaceful tourist visit. Makes it incredibly easy to vote for their opponents.

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

So I will say this, I don't deny that Biden got more votes, the election was called and voted by Congress and made President.

The only thing is this, the answers for the weird things that happened during the voting time. I know the courts said. But all they said was they didn't want to hear the cases. They didn't investigate. Trump's team did, but outside people never did. I understand no judge wanted their name on anything at all with it after liberals burnt and destroyed damn near half the cities in the US the months prior. I just wanted the same consideration that Al Gore got where they were trying to find the intent of the voters in Miami. The same consideration that 2004 and Ohio got. The same consideration that Al Franken got in Minnesota in 2008. The same consideration Hillary got in 2016. The same consideration that Fat Butt in Georgia got in 2018. They all got investigated and figured out in court. Trump didn't get that. Did he try and take the country over, No. Did he throw a tantrum, Yes. But he should have been afforded the same as the others. That's the American way. MAGA isn't a cult or a group of crazy people. It's a movement of people sick of the status quo that has taken over the Government. I wish you understood that, instead of demonizing it. It started long before Trump. It used to be the Tea Party. The people who went to the Jan 6th ordeal, well I believe 99% were there in good faith. A few acted like morons and caused a bad thing. The same can be said about the summer of brotherly love. Most were there under good faith, but a small group acted like morons. Watts riots, Rodney King, etc It's repetitive in nature. A few give a bunch a bad name.

There were numerous independent audits. You're just misinformed. And you're misinformed because there is a radical right wing propaganda network from the top (trump) down (fox news and every other radical right wing media group). They spew disinformation on a daily basis putting out outright lies as fact.

And for you to claim Trump didn't try to take over the country shows again that you are extremely uninformed or misinformed of the facts. It's a preposterous claim and the evidence against that is overwhelming.

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

so by your logic, if a politician came out with a slogan of "Make America Even Better Than Great", you would automatically support them

if making america great is good, isn't making america even better than great even better? why would anyone oppose MAEBTG?

Generous to even call it logic. It's pure stupidity. MAGA brainrot.

 

[T8KUDWN]

I don't typically endorse politicians. Politicians are almost all narcissistic self interested scumbags. I'm an independent and vote for representatives pragmatically based on the most impactful issues at any given time. By far the single most important policy issue at the moment is the adherence to the constitution and defense of democracy. Almost the entirety of the GQP at all levels of government is anti-democracy and pro fascism. The fact that Trump is by far the leading GQP candidate is evidence of this.

Filling out my ballot is easy. I Google the GQP candidate's name along with "Trump" "2020 election" and "January 6th" and read the results and their position and prior comments on those things. Almost always, they are nutjob Trump cultists who claim the election was stolen and that Jan. 6 was a peaceful tourist visit. Makes it incredibly easy to vote for their opponents.

So, there is no present politician you endorse??

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

Very well put!

@Sharky1203

When @MAGAman or @IRONBIRD are giving you praise it's time to question yourself. Two insane asylum inmates who somehow found Internet access no doubt.

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

So, there is no present politician you endorse??

Any that are running against MAGA politicians.

 

[Sharky1203]

@Sharky1203

When @MAGAman or @IRONBIRD are giving you praise it's time to question yourself. Two insane asylum inmates who somehow found Internet access no doubt.

Lol, I will keep that in mind. I don't always agree with you and I don't always agree with them. But I respect what is said until it becomes a name calling fest. That's where I draw the line. Name calling is fun and can be funny until it crosses the line. But the name calling when you can't debate your point back is were I draw the line. Keep in mind, you can learn anything from anyone. That includes an idiot, you can learn how not to be an idiot.

The name calling includes Trump. I thought it wasn't very Presidential about it. Then when people jumped on board and followed it, then would wait to see what name he came up with, was flat out wrong. So my advice to you, is what the name calling yourself or you've lowered yourself to Trump's level.

 

[Sharky1203]

Any that are running against MAGA politicians.

Not a good answer. Vodka you're better than that. You should be voting for the candidate that best fits your beliefs. "No MAGA" is not a belief, it's a horrible way of getting a Government that runs a mock. The MAGA (cult as you call them) keeps the balance of the far left Socialists.

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

Not a good answer. Vodka you're better than that. You should be voting for the candidate that best fits your beliefs. "No MAGA" is not a belief, it's a horrible way of getting a Government that runs a mock. The MAGA (cult as you call them) keeps the balance of the far left Socialists.

I've stated that the most important issue is adherence to the constitution and democracy. MAGA is antithesis to both of those things.

Biden or the mainstream left is nowhere close to socialist or radical. Turn off the propaganda.

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

Lol, I will keep that in mind. I don't always agree with you and I don't always agree with them. But I respect what is said until it becomes a name calling fest. That's where I draw the line. Name calling is fun and can be funny until it crosses the line. But the name calling when you can't debate your point back is were I draw the line. Keep in mind, you can learn anything from anyone. That includes an idiot, you can learn how not to be an idiot.

The name calling includes Trump. I thought it wasn't very Presidential about it. Then when people jumped on board and followed it, then would wait to see what name he came up with, was flat out wrong. So my advice to you, is what the name calling yourself or you've lowered yourself to Trump's level.

Well said. I don't disagree with any of this. I'm just flawed and lack patience and tolerance for people who live in a delusional reality devoid of acceptance of objective facts.

 

[Sharky1203]

I've stated that the most important issue is adherence to the constitution and democracy. MAGA is antithesis to both of those things.

Biden or the mainstream left is nowhere close to socialist or radical. Turn off the propaganda.

Sorry but they are. They want to limit/take (whatever you call it) guns. They want the Government to be the answer to everything. They believe that the Government should provide everything for the citizens. They control the speech and censor it. They control the media for the most part (which was done in the 80's thanks to Regan for passing the bill where news had to put a descending argument on subjects, if you had a Dem on you had to have a Rep on the same about of time). Now most of the news is Dems talking and very little descending points. The Internet is overrun with the left jamming their views down everyone's throats. Study the early 30's, the Italians and Germans did exactly what the left are doing now. Besides why does any of this matter? You're a Independent.

 

[Sharky1203]

Well said. I don't disagree with any of this. I'm just flawed and lack patience and tolerance for people who live in a delusional reality devoid of acceptance of objective facts.

Objective facts are just that "objective." Point of view (right or wrong) is just objective facts.

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

Sorry but they are. They want to limit/take (whatever you call it) guns. They want the Government to be the answer to everything. They believe that the Government should provide everything for the citizens. They control the speech and censor it. They control the media for the most part (which was done in the 80's thanks to Regan for passing the bill where news had to put a descending argument on subjects, if you had a Dem on you had to have a Rep on the same about of time). Now most of the news is Dems talking and very little descending points. The Internet is overrun with the left jamming their views down everyone's throats. Study the early 30's, the Italians and Germans did exactly what the left are doing now. Besides why does any of this matter? You're a Independent.

I strongly support gun regulation including strict background checks and mandatory firearm safety courses. There's no way people like @IRONBIRD should be able to own guns. Mentally crazy people with guns is a huge problem.



1930s Italy and Germany media looks very similar to modern GQP propaganda. Trump's Twitter feed is littered with nonstop propaganda and lies. It's baffling that people think fox news is actually an independent news media organization. It's a radical right wing propaganda network that literally gives marching orders to GQP politicians.

And why wouldn't this matter to me as an independent? Are independents not affected by policy and laws and governance?

 

[Sharky1203]

understanding what the standard deduction is (it is not the poverty level) and how a progressive tax system functions doesn't mean i want to pay more in taxes.

Define progressive taxes? So if you have lots of money then you pay more? Obama started this crap and I have never understood it and never will. Equal. That applies to all laws. Taxes are nothing more than laws. Equality under the law.

 

[Sharky1203]

I strongly support gun regulation including strict background checks and mandatory firearm safety courses. There's no way people like @IRONBIRD should be able to own guns. Mentally crazy people with guns is a huge problem.



1930s Italy and Germany media looks very similar to modern GQP propaganda. Trump's Twitter feed is littered with nonstop propaganda and lies. It's baffling that people think fox news is actually an independent news media organization. It's a radical right wing propaganda network that literally gives marching orders to GQP politicians.

And why wouldn't this matter to me as an independent? Are independents not affected by policy and laws and governance?

You haven't tried to buy a gun lately (last 20 years at least). The paperwork alone will drive nuts. BTW, it's not legal guns doing the damage, it's illegal guns. The Great Obama got caught trying to get illegal guns in the hands of criminals.

You see it one sided. Trump's little site and Twitter are not controlling, it's free speech. I didn't like it or some of the stuff, but he has the right to say it. Fox News isn't really right wing. You haven't seen Newsmax or the Blaze. But I see CNN and MSNBC the same way you see Fox. They are completely in the tank with the Democrats.

I know you say you are a Independent. But you hate all things right and defend the left like crazy. I just gives the vibes you are a left leaning person.🤷

As far as IRONBIRD, I don't know him. He may be off his meds or needs them. He may be the nicest person in the world and just sets you off with things he says, I don't know. But because he pissed you off with his right to free speech prohibits him from owning a gun, well then you need to re-evaluate your American values.

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

You haven't tried to buy a gun lately (last 20 years at least). The paperwork alone will drive nuts. BTW, it's not legal guns doing the damage, it's illegal guns. The Great Obama got caught trying to get illegal guns in the hands of criminals.

You see it one sided. Trump's little site and Twitter are not controlling, it's free speech. I didn't like it or some of the stuff, but he has the right to say it. Fox News isn't really right wing. You haven't seen Newsmax or the Blaze. But I see CNN and MSNBC the same way you see Fox. They are completely in the tank with the Democrats.

I know you say you are a Independent. But you hate all things right and defend the left like crazy. I just gives the vibes you are a left leaning person.🤷

As far as IRONBIRD, I don't know him. He may be off his meds or needs them. He may be the nicest person in the world and just sets you off with things he says, I don't know. But because he pissed you off with his right to free speech prohibits him from owning a gun, well then you need to re-evaluate your American values.

You lose any and all credibility as an unbiased, objective, facts and logic based individual when you say things as outlandish as "fox news isn't really right wing".

I defend the left like crazy? Almost every single political comment I've made on this forum has been attacking the right, GQP, MAGA, and Trump. The only times I've spoken about the left is to say it's easy to vote for them presently because they aren't actively trying to overthrow democracy.

I view adherence to the constitution and democracy as a prerequisite to being a support worthy candidate. There are almost no GQP politicians who currently hold that prerequisite.

 

[thom67]

Let's go down the road with Biden one more time. The IRS is making the announcement that there will be a 7% income tax increase in 2024. This is to combat a 40 year high inflation rate. Boy is that going to stimulate a stagnate economy. And for those that are going to say "prove it, source". CBS News made the announcement.

You obviously cannot read. The increase is an increased amount for the tax brackets, not a tax increase. Actually the taxes will be lower!

 

[Sharky1203]

You obviously cannot read. The increase is an increased amount for the tax brackets, not a tax increase. Actually the taxes will be lower!

Funny not one word about the 40 year high inflation rate. Just ignore it. And the very article states that they have to increase taxes to combat it. Twist it how you want. They have to pay the IOU that has been borrowed and can only do it with tax money. There is no other way of doing it. It's kind of black and white thing.

 

[thom67]

You are trying to win dumbest MoFo on earth huh? He did what he could, and it was proven he was correct. ALL the states that did not go into full lock downs did better!

He did little to nothing Except got the vaccine production started, but failed totally after that.

 

[jneffer]

Define progressive taxes? So if you have lots of money then you pay more? Obama started this crap and I have never understood it and never will. Equal. That applies to all laws. Taxes are nothing more than laws. Equality under the law.

the Internet is great tool full of useful information...like articles that explain how a progressive tax system (like the one we've had for 100 years) works

that CBS news article you keep referencing explains it ...maybe you could start there

 

[Arbor1]

10% for the 'big guy' is the relevant math. Corruption witness list up to 40 people now. Gonna be a Merry Christmas this year to eject this pox on America. Will take years to right what these short 3 years have done to us by the radical marxist grifters.

 

[thom67]

Funny not one word about the 40 year high inflation rate. Just ignore it. And the very article states that they have to increase taxes to combat it. Twist it how you want. They have to pay the IOU that has been borrowed and can only do it with tax money. There is no other way of doing it. It's kind of black and white thing.

Inflation was due to several things. Trump’s tax cut raised the deficit in a huge way. Trump keeping fed rate artificially low for several years also added to the inflation. The third most important thing was Covid, not necessarily Trump’s fault.

 

[Sharky1203]

You lose any and all credibility as an unbiased, objective, facts and logic based individual when you say things as outlandish as "fox news isn't really right wing".

I defend the left like crazy? Almost every single political comment I've made on this forum has been attacking the right, GQP, MAGA, and Trump. The only times I've spoken about the left is to say it's easy to vote for them presently because they aren't actively trying to overthrow democracy.

I view adherence to the constitution and democracy as a prerequisite to being a support worthy candidate. There are almost no GQP politicians who currently hold that prerequisite.

I'm sorry Vodka, Fox News leans right, yes. They're evening talk show hosts are very right. Like I said, check out the Blaze or Newsmax. You'll see that Fox isn't real right. CNN and MSNBC are really left. So if you are Independent, then you can get the info from both and then make your own opinion.

You definitely attack the right. I won't ever question that. But I have seen posts where you blamed it on the right, when the left owns just as much of the responsibility. Neither side is working for the good of this country

If you think people like McCain or Bush are Republicans then you are wrong. They were swamp creatures and war mongers. They got rich being a politician and voted to make things better in their bank accounts. The list is long, both sides, and is what I want voted out. We need people who take care of the majority and protect the minority.

So I will say this, I'm not looking to get creditability. I save that for my employer, kids, wife and friends. So, random person on a website... is near the bottom of the list. But I can say this about you, it's that you're an agitator. You seem to be on here a lot and stir the pot as well as anyone. But I don't know you. Maybe you are off your meds or need to be prescribed them. Maybe you're the nicest guy in the world and just say things that irritate people. I don't know. But I do believe you have the right to say what you want and you have the right to own a gun. And I will fight to the death so you and IRONBIRD have those rights.

 

[Sharky1203]

the Internet is great tool full of useful information...like articles that explain how a progressive tax system (like the one we've had for 100 years) works

that CBS news article you keep referencing explains it ...maybe you could start there

The Internet told people it was safe to eat Tide Pods. How'd that turn out? How you interpret it is important. I knew by common sense not to eat the pods. I know by common sense, that inflation is at a 40 year high and every single time the Government has to increase tax revenue in order to drive it down. In a stagnant economy that we have now, there is only one place to go, income tax.

 

[jneffer]

The Internet told people it was safe to eat Tide Pods. How'd that turn out? How you interpret it is important. I knew by common sense not to eat the pods. I know by common sense, that inflation is at a 40 year high and every single time the Government has to increase tax revenue in order to drive it down. In a stagnant economy that we have now, there is only one place to go, income tax.

the IRS can't just unilaterally raise income taxes...it has to be done through legislation

it's OK if you don't understand how it works, but maybe you shouldn't try to tell people things that are just plain false about the thing you don't understand

just sit this particular subject out

 

[thom67]

WTF are you talking about? He made the announcement when they were trying to impeach him over a phone call. The Dems cried he was changing the situation. Then he said that it came from China and they called him racist. He called on Nancy to help him to combat it and she laughed at him and said he should be removed by article 25 for being crazy. He called for the lockdown for two weeks. Then that's when the Dems took over and made it completely retarded for political purposes.

He did not say it came from China. He stated that China caused it. He did nothing to combat Covid except to get the vaccine approved. Then did nothing after that because he lost the election and refused to transfer power to the new president. That caused our country to be 2 months behind in dealing with Covid. That caused several hundred thousand Americans to lose their life from Covid.

 

[thom67]

The Internet told people it was safe to eat Tide Pods. How'd that turn out? How you interpret it is important. I knew by common sense not to eat the pods. I know by common sense, that inflation is at a 40 year high and every single time the Government has to increase tax revenue in order to drive it down. In a stagnant economy that we have now, there is only one place to go, income tax.

Inflation is no longer at a 40 year high. Currently it is at 3+%. Should be at 2%, but improving a lot.

 

[Sharky1203]

He did not say it came from China. He stated that China caused it. He did nothing to combat Covid except to get the vaccine approved. Then did nothing after that because he lost the election and refused to transfer power to the new president. That caused our country to be 2 months behind in dealing with Covid. That caused several hundred thousand Americans to lose their life from Covid.

Jesus this response is the most propaganda response ever.

Vodka, 98lber, IRONBIRD, etc. they at least have valid points. Nothing you said can be proven other than the left wing sites.

 

[Sharky1203]

Inflation is no longer at a 40 year high. Currently it is at 3+%. Should be at 2%, but improving a lot.

Here we go. It said it in the article. And it's 3+% over last year which was 7+% up over the year before, which was up 4+% over the previous year. It is and has grown faster than the GDP allows, which is 2%. All under Biden. And I put the same blame on Congress and Trump. I just put more on Biden because he has done nothing to combat it, nor provided a plan to stop it.

 

[thom67]

Nope - one of the reasons I don't. But I don't let hurt feelings get in the way of a better economy and general world stability and peace. All of which occured during his administration. The fact that many of his policies were immediately struck down has a lot to do with where we are at now. Failure to enforce the restrictions on Iran has helped get us where we are at now. Picking a cabinet based on being a first and vote pandering has helped get us where we are at now. It just keeps adding up.

You talk about following the Constituion, but the current President has promised things (like the repayment of student loans) that he had no authority to do so. He knew it, or at least his lawyers did. But he got what he wanted - students getting pissed because the Supreme Court ruled appropriately so it was all the GOP's fault. It goes on and on.

If Trump was not running again for President and being the overwhelming favorite to get the nomination, and there was an understanding to not get involved again, or to not go ofter the deep state, do you believe he would have been indicted for anything?

Trump caused the Iran problem by dropping the Iran agreement which had safeguards a preventing Iran from increasing their nuclear activities.

WTF are you talking about? He made the announcement when they were trying to impeach him over a phone call. The Dems cried he was changing the situation. Then he said that it came from China and they called him racist. He called on Nancy to help him to combat it and she laughed at him and said he should be removed by article 25 for being crazy. He called for the lockdown for two weeks. Then that's when the Dems took over and made it completely retarded for political purposes.

 

[MAGAman]

I don't typically endorse politicians. Politicians are almost all narcissistic self interested scumbags. I'm an independent and vote for representatives pragmatically based on the most impactful issues at any given time. By far the single most important policy issue at the moment is the adherence to the constitution and defense of democracy. Almost the entirety of the GQP at all levels of government is anti-democracy and pro fascism. The fact that Trump is by far the leading GQP candidate is evidence of this.

Filling out my ballot is easy. I Google the GQP candidate's name along with "Trump" "2020 election" and "January 6th" and read the results and their position and prior comments on those things. Almost always, they are nutjob Trump cultists who claim the election was stolen and that Jan. 6 was a peaceful tourist visit. Makes it incredibly easy to vote for their opponents.

Your so out of touch with your selection process but expains alot! 1/6 participants=patriots! And if you had so much smoke for fraud on the election youd question it too just like every dem before PdT.

 

[thom67]

Here we go. It said it in the article. And it's 3+% over last year which was 7+% up over the year before, which was up 4+% over the previous year. It is and has grown faster than the GDP allows, which is 2%. All under Biden. And I put the same blame on Congress and Trump. I just put more on Biden because he has done nothing to combat it, nor provided a plan to stop it.

The current inflation rate is 3+%, which lower than the previous years, not higher.

 

[Sharky1203]

The current inflation rate is 3+%, which lower than the previous years, not higher.

Sorry but you are wrong. The entire year of 2022 it was talked about on every news, financial and political outlet. The Dems spent the whole year defending it and claiming Trump caused it. It wasn't down it was sky high. Biden even gave speeches about it and how his policies would change it. They even changed the meaning of recession and how it's measured because it was going up all year. This isn't 1984 and you get to change history.

 

[anon_0pi0cv8t1ggvb]

Your so out of touch with your selection process but expains alot! 1/6 participants=patriots! And if you had so much smoke for fraud on the election youd question it too just like every dem before PdT.

Yep, you need to be put on a list. Radical anti-american nutjob.

 

[jneffer]

Sorry but you are wrong. The entire year of 2022 it was talked about on every news, financial and political outlet. The Dems spent the whole year defending it and claiming Trump caused it. It wasn't down it was sky high. Biden even gave speeches about it and how his policies would change it. They even changed the meaning of recession and how it's measured because it was going up all year. This isn't 1984 and you get to change history.

even with all that true, why would that mean inflation couldn't have gone down in the 10 months since 2022?

inflation isn't some sceret number that no one really knows. it's measured and you can look it up anytime you want. Go ahead, Google it. you'll see it is at 3.7% right now.