More chokage by wrestlers we're hoping would beat other wrestlers. These Ohio State and Penn State wrestlers need to stop wrestling out of their arse. Thanks for doing that for the duration of eternity.
1st match -- winner never took a shot
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Went back and watch Wilps' two rides there at the end. The first time, Shields for whatever reason waited FOREVER to start counting once Wilps was on the ankle. The next restart, Shields counted off the 5 seconds in right at 4 seconds. Looked like he knew he had to make up for falling asleep on the first count.
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They haven't counted that fast all year or made those calls, let alone in Championship match to PICK a winner. Shields is a pathetic ref. He is easily rattled and needs to retire. The fact that he gets a match on Saturday night is enough to question the sanity of the entire sport.
Wilps was trying to move up. It was turning into a foot race with Brown while a hold of his ankle. He just wasn't quite moving up to the waste.
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They haven't counted that fast all year or made those calls, let alone in Championship match to PICK a winner. Shields is a pathetic ref. He is easily rattled and needs to retire. The fact that he gets a match on Saturday night is enough to question the sanity of the entire sport.
The inconsistency in calling it may make it a bad call, but it was stalling. I'm fine with the call, but would have also been fine if they swallowed the whistle like usual
Well that makes no sense.
IF we were stalling to win then we would have won. If we choked then we didn't cost Iowa a title. Had we won the matches we choked that supposedly cost you a title then we would have been in 2nd place starting the championship round with a chance to overtake that lead.
You shouldn't make silly comments like that.
Speaking of which, the same definition I posted above could legitimately be applied to Iowa's known style of tying up and pushing opponents towards the out of bounds area. Even your own fans on this very board have acknowledged it so don't pretend like it doesn't happen.
IF we were stalling to win then we would have won. If we choked then we didn't cost Iowa a title. Had we won the matches we choked that supposedly cost you a title then we would have been in 2nd place starting the championship round with a chance to overtake that lead.
You shouldn't make silly comments like that.
Speaking of which, the same definition I posted above could legitimately be applied to Iowa's known style of tying up and pushing opponents towards the out of bounds area. Even your own fans on this very board have acknowledged it so don't pretend like it doesn't happen.
Shields gets challenges against his calls more often than any other official in the NCAA tournament, and has since replay was implemented. I imagine that is because he happens to do the most high level matches in the tournament most years.
Kind of like letting kids get away with swearing/cursing in your home and then one day deciding to drop the hammer. I'm sure that engenders a lot of trust and understanding.
I don't get the call as it has been called consistently the other way the whole year.
I don't know about that. Brown was the better wrestler. The Pitt kid didn't do jack for a period and a half. If he had, maybe he wouldn't have already had a stalling call against him and it wouldn't have cost him a point late in the match
He deserved to be dinged for stalling and he locked his hands. He's got no one to blame but himself for the loss.
Matt Brown is a great kid by all accounts and now he's going to defend our country. I respect the heck out of him. He's a PSU kid I can cheer for, with them behind us in the standings and no chance at catching us.
THAT A WAY GADSEN!!! Pin that kid from Ohio State!
I'll be positive for the Iowa State wrestler winning. Accept that for those of you Iowa fans who want to keep polishing Ohio State's butt for winning the title.
Hopefully Moisey can make it 2-1 since Steiber doesn't even need to wrestle his match since he's already been crowned a 4-time champion (considering his first two national titles were actually losses, just not officially ruled/awarded as such).
I'll be positive for the Iowa State wrestler winning. Accept that for those of you Iowa fans who want to keep polishing Ohio State's butt for winning the title.
Hopefully Moisey can make it 2-1 since Steiber doesn't even need to wrestle his match since he's already been crowned a 4-time champion (considering his first two national titles were actually losses, just not officially ruled/awarded as such).
Regarding the assistant missing the locked hands. In the finals there is no clock assistant aka towel tapper (they use audio only in the NCAA tournament). So in the finals, the assistant tries to position themselves between the action and the official clock, so with that amount of time left his eyes were most likely on the clock as he was counting down the time for Shields which is why he probably didn't see it, that and you VERY RARELY see wrestlers in the NCAA tournament much less the finals lock their hands so it probably didn't even register to him that it could happen. Now as far as shields not seeing it when he came around the Penn State wrestler's hands were covering up the locked hands that were there which is probably why Shields hesitated to call it knowing that a challenge was likely coming.
I'm not saying this is exactly how it happened but its a very plausible explanation.
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I'm not saying this is exactly how it happened but its a very plausible explanation.
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And of course Moisey doesn't come right out and attack the Ohio State wrestler. He'd rather do that against an Iowa wrestler...
Ahem.....Brown was pointing at the locked hands. It's what I teach my little guy to do. I could see it from nose bleed section of 317
Tomasello has gotten more and more conservative as the year has gone on. He'll be winning every single match 2-1 by the middle of next year
Still a good year for Clark. Brewer was just on a roll right now. Those early shots from Clark were hard to watch.
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Had him gassed at the end but got completely dominated the first 2 periods. Brewer is a more explosive athlete
Really looked Brewers interview. Apologized to the fans for not being more aggressive in the 3rd.
Aside from 149 this his been pretty entertaining to watch.
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Aside from 149 this his been pretty entertaining to watch.
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the iowa program needs to figure out how to develop some offense, teach it or recruit it. clark had absolutely nothing to threaten brewer. and he's hardly the only one who's been offensively challenged recently. not the iowa style of wrestling i remember. too bad.
Pretty much just frustrated with how the last 3 days played out overall, that was the reason for "My God" above.
Not the end of the world, just know the title was there for the taking.
Proud of Clark's effort. The better wrestler (at this particular time) won.
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Not the end of the world, just know the title was there for the taking.
Proud of Clark's effort. The better wrestler (at this particular time) won.
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