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1st match -- winner never took a shot

Originally posted by artradley:

Originally posted by dirt33:
My god
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It was the best anybody wrestled against Brewer -- nothing wrong with Clark's effort at all.

And Brewer apologizes to the fans for not having enough offense in the 3rd. Gotta love that attitude.


This post was edited on 3/21 9:53 PM by artradley
Cory goes hard, not doubt about it. I think he'd like to have some of those ill-advised too far away shots back. Really put himself in some bad spots there, but A for effort for sure. He's susceptible to leg attacks, always has been, but he does other things well to make up for it, most of the time. He got one step away from the top with his "poor" defense. He's right there. If he gets better defensively, it will make his wrestling life a little bit easier and he won't have to have the 3rd period comebacks he's become somewhat famous for. Great year regardless.
 
Originally posted by jobphoto:
the iowa program needs to figure out how to develop some offense, teach it or recruit it. clark had absolutely nothing to threaten brewer. and he's hardly the only one who's been offensively challenged recently. not the iowa style of wrestling i remember. too bad.
Nobody wants to discuss or talk about the elephant in the room.
 
Originally posted by ichawks:

Originally posted by jobphoto:
the iowa program needs to figure out how to develop some offense, teach it or recruit it. clark had absolutely nothing to threaten brewer. and he's hardly the only one who's been offensively challenged recently. not the iowa style of wrestling i remember. too bad.
Nobody wants to discuss or talk about the elephant in the room.
Once again let's give the competition no credit. Cory Clark was in the finals and has shown that he has plenty of offense. Get off it
 
who is the osu assistant coach with the beard and greasy short hair? He looks like a character from peaky blinders....
 
Originally posted by 1stplacehawk:

Originally posted by ichawks:

Originally posted by jobphoto:
the iowa program needs to figure out how to develop some offense, teach it or recruit it. clark had absolutely nothing to threaten brewer. and he's hardly the only one who's been offensively challenged recently. not the iowa style of wrestling i remember. too bad.
Nobody wants to discuss or talk about the elephant in the room.
Once again let's give the competition no credit. Cory Clark was in the finals and has shown that he has plenty of offense. Get off it
make no mistake, full credit to brewer. he dominated. he made it look like clark didn't even belong on the same mat with him. but that's the problem, isn't it.
 
Most of the elite wrestlers are able to get out from underneath Brown. (Wilps certainly did.) I imagine any ride that involves a helpless Hawk unable to get to his feet would be classified as a "stallride" by posters like 2ndplacehawk.
 
Originally posted by ichawks:

Originally posted by jobphoto:
the iowa program needs to figure out how to develop some offense, teach it or recruit it. clark had absolutely nothing to threaten brewer. and he's hardly the only one who's been offensively challenged recently. not the iowa style of wrestling i remember. too bad.
Nobody wants to discuss or talk about the elephant in the room.
I will write my opinion tomorrow. Will probably be a TL;DR for most.
 
Originally posted by thetigerman1981:
WHAT!!!

Which match were you watching. Drake took 4 legitimate shots, in deep on two of them. He almost had it won at the end of the 3rd period on a very nice double leg and that wasn't a counter at all.
LOL! Here's the YouTube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgaJbILJ_f4

I will say he did take one shot, with 52 seconds left in the second period. He also changed levels a couple of times (fwiw, changing levels is not taking a shot).

The attack at the end of the 3rd it was most certainly a counter. At 23 seconds, Habat takes a shot -- he gets a leg but Drake sprawls and flattens him. Drake then goes to a front headlock butt-drag position, and spins around for a go-behind. Habat turns with him but in the motion Drake gets to his legs. That is not a shot -- that is finishing from a front headlock position -- a position gained from Habat's missed shot.

If you think he took four legitimate shots in that match you're simply delusional.



This post was edited on 3/22 9:39 AM by artradley
 
Originally posted by whejoe:
who is the osu assistant coach with the beard and greasy short hair? He looks like a character from peaky blinders....
I think you're talking about Jay Jaggers -- 2x national champ. Never was all that impressive during the year, but he always seemed to turn it on at just the right time and come up big in March. Funny how that goes in wrestling -- some guys just get on a roll at the right time and it can carry them to a title. For us, Clark was our hottest guy down the stretch, and he rode that wave all the way to the finals. Lots of factors go into a successful run at Nationals, but momentum is a huge factor. Some guys just get hot at the right time, start feeling confident, get into a mental "zone", and go on a tear.
 
Houdeshalt was a pretty aggressive wrestler all year but prefers to take shots from tie-up positions. I'm no Missouri fan, but it looked like every time Houdeshalt got the tie he wanted, Habat dropped flat to his knees and made it impossible for Houdeshalt to take his shot. While that's a smart move by Habat, I think it's unfair to blame Houdeshalt for not taking shots when his opponent is sprawled on his knees. I've seen more than a few matches this year where certain wrestlers slowed down matches by basically wrestling from their knees in the neutral position.
 
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