2004 is the last time we shared or won the big ten title

[RocknRollface]

My definition of a good season is 7-8 wins.
My definition of "elite" season is 10-12 wins.

We have had good seasons and elite seasons since 2004. Iowa is a development program and will never string together 4-5 years stretches of 10+ wins. Its just not how its done here and sorry but we are not a "top tier" program as OSU, Bama, MICH, PSU, and others. Those teams don't replace, they reload. Iowa on the other hand has to replace and then develop talent.

7 wins is an average season, and really mediocre considering the schedules they ususlly come agaimst. When you play 2 cupcakes, Isu, Minnesota, NW, every year. Then throw in Illinios, Indiana, Purdue Rutgets and Maryland on a rotating basis.

Those are teams that recruit lesser players than Iowa.

We usually only play 2 or 3 good teams a year.

Who asked for 4-5 years in a row of 10 wins. Show me this? Where?

Iowas only managed it twice in 13 years. You need to accept the reality of that. Thats not very good. Its not worth the money and its not difficult to do for a ton of other coaches. Mark Farley and Matt Campbell could probably do it.

Iowa is mediocre and boring to watch.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

7 wins is an average season, and really mediocre considering the schedules they ususlly come agaimst. When you play 2 cupcakes, Isu, Minnesota, NW, every year. Then throw in Illinios, Indiana, Purdue Rutgets and Maryland on a rotating basis.

Those are teams that rectuit lesser players than Iowa.

We usually inly play 2 or 3 good teams a year.

Who asked for 4-5 years in a row of 10 wins. Show me this? Where?

Iowas only managed it twice in 13 years. You need to accept the reality of that. Thats not very good. Its not worth the money and its not difficult to do for a ton of other coaches. Mark Farley and Matt Campbell could probably do it.

Iowa is mediocre and boring to watch.

Soo Iowa isn't good, is that what you want me to believe? I am confused. I donate and buy season tickets for the Iowa Hawkeyes. Should I not do this? Because regardless of idle fan chatter, I will support the hawks. If their 0-12 or 12-0 Im gonna bleed black and gold! I support Ferentz and what he is doing with the program. He brought it back before and he will do it again.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Enjoy what, what are you attempting to say? (Enjoy what I said. It's not meant to be taken literally. Or at least I don't expect you to enjoy what I said. If you did, then I'd be worried.) That this is a message board, and basically meaningless?
(Yeah.)

Well no shit. (Yeah, no sh**. Which is why I find it funny that you and others continuously try to tell us what you don't like about Ferentz while still being a die hard fan. Why do you keep making meaningless posts? - your words, not mine.....

As I said before, do you even have a goal here or are you just being "pointlessly" argumentative? You're telling people the same sh** that's been said for years and for what? No sh** it's f***ing meaningless. I could go on but read my post to the OP.)

You do realize the irony of you posting to tell me my post is meaningless right? (What irony? Speak for yourself. I never make any meaningless posts..... )

 

[BetterLuckNextTime]

2015 should be considered a Big Ten championship as much as the pre-divisionalized 2002 and 2004 are.

You're selling the team short on what's owed to us. If we wouldn't have lost players to graduation, we'd be contending for championships every year!

 

[TooMuchDumb]

Not even close to being good.... Hope the money was inherited and you didn't have to work that hard for it!

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Not even close to being good.... Hope the money was inherited and you didn't have to work that hard for it!

Nope work hard and donate to a great program.

 

[TooMuchDumb]

Nope work hard and donate to a great program.

Great program with a very poor product and manager.

 

[BetterLuckNextTime]

Yeah its been a while. When was the last time Minnesota won a BTC, Purdue, Nebbie, Illinois, and NW? I mean its been a while for a lot of those teams. Hell what about Michigan, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland?

Two years ago we had a shot and were a 4th down stop away from getting a big ten title. So really its been a while, but we have been close since then, just haven't gotten over the hilll. 2009 we had a shot, but lost at OSU in OT. In 2015 we lost on a 4th down at the 1yd line.

If you don't like Kirk, then switch teams. I am going to back him no matter what. He is a great coach who is the dean of college coaches. He does it the right way and he develops his players. He graduates a majority of his players and you rarely hear a negative thing said about him from former players. I am mad about how our season is going, but I am not going to let the recent downfalls, blemish my way of thinking.

Lets face it, we lost 2 5th year starters at Tackle. We are playing FRESHMAN instead of Seniors. That will kill your Oline, no matter where you are at. Look at USC (same scenario, and to replace tackles w/freshman.) Their QB was the front runner in the heisman and they were #5 preseason. They are now struggling. Oline is important and Iowa's trying to figure it out. We have some youth there and frankly the Line isn't getting it done up front. I have a feeling that will change real quick.

This is also a transition year, we have new coordinators and young players getting into the action. There are bound to be mistakes made and I think this team like others will finish with a flurry of wins and get to a decent bowl game and springboard into next season.

Yeah, it's been a while since Rutgers and Maryland won Big Ten championships But it's pretty dumb and insecure to tell people to get different teams because you don't want dissension. How about YOU find a different team, since it's loser fans like you who empower and enable mediocrity. L

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Great program with a very poor product and manager.

Agree to disagree on this subject! Looking forward to being under the lights in Kinnick to watch the hawks beat the gophers!

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Yeah, it's been a while since Rutgers and Maryland won Big Ten championships But it's pretty dumb and insecure to tell people to get different teams because you don't want dissension. How about YOU find a different team, since it's loser fans like you who empower and enable mediocrity. L

Nope sorry gonna root for the hawks! 0-12 or 12-0 I am a hawk through and through. There is nothing wrong with the program. Its fine and we will improve and get better.

But if want to put up the $$ to buy out KF, by all means do it. I am sure he would take it from ya.

 

[BetterLuckNextTime]

Since you don't accept it, what are you going to do about It?

A few things here:

- Do you expect to get everyone to agree with you with these idiotic juvenile posts making ridiculous graphic jokes mocking Ferentz and the fans who may still support him? Yeah that's some way to rally the troops right there. And what's even more indicative is that most of you making these comments aren't even in college anymore. You're 20, 30 and 40 something's (probably even unfortunately with kids too) calling people dick riders and blow jobbers on the internet for supporting a college football coach...............let that f***ing sink in.

- What if everyone did listen to you and suddenly they saw whatever kind of f***ed up light you were trying to shed on them? Do you even have a plan for that, or was your sole intention just to troll people because you're a momentarily angry and bitter adult mocking people for either not taking college football as seriously as you, or because you think it's an easy target to troll them? The truth is the pessimistic fans are a million times easier to troll because they let their emotions get the better of them much faster.

- Do you even want people to agree with you? HONEST QUESTION. And no I dont even give a f*** if you think they will or not. Yes or no, do you want them to agree with you?
Because people like you and MeetTheFerentz and all the other new usernames mocking Ferentz that keep popping up are going about it in the worst way possible.

Just take politics for example, yeah call somebody a left wing nut job loser or a right wing extremist goon. That'll surely convince them to appreciate your side of a political stance or better yet get them to agree with you.....

Ya know your section of the fanbase keeps saying this but in all honesty, you're the f***ing morons here, if you think the way you people post is gonna do anything but create more divide.

Deal with it.

Dude, you need to post more when you're mad. That was thoroughly entertaining. But your point would have been punched home stronger if you would have included a gif about gravitational waves.

 

[RocknRollface]

Monkey.

Do you have a goal by continually bitching about people posting their disatisfaction?

Because I can pretty much guarantee thats not changing either.

Its basically the point of a sports message board.

How about we just agree to not give a shit about eachother, or dont, because I dont give a shit.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Do you have a goal by continually bitching about people posting their disatisfaction? (Ummm yeah. It's called do a better job of voicing your dissatisfaction. I never said people couldn't voice their concerns. I just like to rib those that do it in a snarky and condescending or vulgar manner and expect something other than the reaction that they get.........)

Because I can pretty much guarantee thats not changing either. (And that's your fault (and theirs) not mine.)

Its basically the point of a sports message board. (I get that people agree to disagree and everyone has their own opinion and comes from different walks etc etc. I'm talking about how they share their opinions. Fix it.)

How about we just agree to not give a shit about each other, or dont, because I dont give a shit.

Yessssss, embrace the apathy LOL

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Dude, you need to post more when you're mad. That was thoroughly entertaining. But your point would have been punched home stronger if you would have included a gif about gravitational waves.

I think that's a compliment.....I'm taking it as a compliment. Appreciated.

 

[RocknRollface]

Yessssss, embrace the apathy LOL

Do you purposely respond inside the original text so that its more difficult to quote you?

Your opinion of the content of my posts
is irrelevant. How you respond doesnt matter to me.

The sooner you accept the reality that it wont change the easier it will be for you.

Theres only so many ways facts and opinions on those facts can be conveyed. The record is what it is.

Everyone will continue to post and think whatever they want despite your tantrums.

You can accept it or not, doesnt matter to anyone.

 

[naturalmwa]

Nebraska fans are rubbing one off on the OP.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Do you purposely respond inside the original text so that its more difficult to quote you? (I never thought about that really......I usually do it so you get my specific response to your comments....kinda like right now. )

Your opinion of the content of my posts
is irrelevant. How you respond doesnt matter to me. (Well now you're just trying to use my words against me for the sake of it.......)

The sooner you accept the reality that it wont change the easier it will be for you. (Still waiting on you to tell me what you're getting out of all this. Because it's not nothing. You wouldn't be so mad, let alone constantly replying to me, if it was.....)

Theres only so many ways facts and opinions on those facts can be conveyed. (Yeah, and some people can do that better than others.......it's possible. ) The record is what it is. (And?.....It's not good enough for you. I get that. What else in your life isn't good enough for you, but you couldn't do anything to change it?)

Everyone will continue to post and think whatever they want (Their fault) despite your tantrums. (Oh no ha ha, I'm not throwing tantrums. I'm trolling.....

You can accept it or not, doesnt matter to anyone. (You'd be surprised how inaccurate that is, as I know you're making an assumption.)

Further embracement of the apathy. I love it.

 

[Hawks_Rock_12]

It's factually true but just a bit mis-leading. 2015 should be considered a Big Ten championship as much as the pre-divisionalized 2002 and 2004 are.

Nope, MSU is the 2015 B1G Champ.

 

[Hawks_Rock_12]

It's true. Modern divisional titles are equivalent to vintage conference titles. There didn't used to be a contrived post-season playoff game. I know the postseason went poorly for Iowa, but that 12-0 season ranks with any other great season in Iowa history.

True, it was a great season. However it was not a B1G Championship season.

 

[Hawks_Rock_12]

Iowa went 8 - 0 in 2002 and were champions.

Iowa went 9 - 0 in 2015 and were not? That really make sense to you? At least against the snark that it's been since 2004 blah blah blah?

Lets say MSU was 9-0 going into the Championship game and Iowa was 7-2. Hawks win the Championship game, does that make MSU the Champ ?

 

[Hawks_Rock_12]

Conference titles are hard to win with a championship game. Ohio St only has 1 since Nebraska joined the conference. Been to the playoff 2 times, but only have 1 conference title. There are no shared titles like the Big Ten.

If Iowa fans are counting 2015 as a title, I guess Nebraska can count 2010 as a conference title. It would have been a conference title in the Big Ten.

Only the delusional Iowa fans are counting 2015 as a B1G Championship, the rest of us realize it was only good for a division title.

 

[RocknRollface]

Further embracement of the apathy. I love it.

Youre trying to hard, and for nothing.

Yes im very much apathetic twoards Iowa football and college football in general anymore. Didn't watch last week. Took a nap instead.

There is no "all of this" Ive posted maybe a couple dozen times in the last 2 years on the football baord not counting today.

Much more interested in basketball because of the coach and the consistent drive for improvement.

Football has plateaued a long time ago, its the same season every year. Just really uninteresting.

 

[navyrules]

Michigan's last BIG title was also in 2004. Just sayin....

 

[The_Joker13]

Michigan's last BIG title was also in 2004. Just sayin....

Michigan also plays Ohio St. every year, and now play in the MUCH more difficult East division.

 

[navyrules]

Michigan also plays Ohio St. every year, and now play in the MUCH more difficult East division.

Fair point, but I doubt that makes much difference to many Michigan fans.

 

[markfromj]

Lets say MSU was 9-0 going into the Championship game and Iowa was 7-2. Hawks win the Championship game, does that make MSU the Champ ?

No.

 

[BrunoMars420]

So what im hearing as an argument is we had 2 good seasons since 2004.....2 out of 14 seasons we were good the rest were bad to mediocre. We had a great season only 14% of the seasons since 2004 and you guys are completely content on paying Kirk as much as we are.

I’m baffled by this. Any other good program wouldn’t wait every 6 years for a good season.

Also some guy said we will be over the hump
Soon, I thought we were when we finished ranked 8 for three seasons in a row but then Kirk happened. If we aren’t over the hump in 19 years, how long does it take???

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Youre trying to hard, and for nothing.

Yes im very much apathetic twoards Iowa football and college football in general anymore. Didn't watch last week. Took a nap instead.

There is no "all of this" Ive posted maybe a couple dozen times in the last 2 years on the football baord not counting today.

Much more interested in basketball because of the coach and the consistent drive for improvement.

Football has plateaued a long time ago, its the same season every year. Just really uninteresting.

Lol okay fine......You don't have to play anymore. If you wanna quit, you have my permission.

 

[khellman]

Fair point, but I doubt that makes much difference to many Michigan fans.

Has Michigan kept the same coach?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

So what im hearing as an argument is we had 2 good seasons since 2004.....2 out of 14 seasons we were good the rest were bad to mediocre. We had a great season only 14% of the seasons since 2004 and you guys are completely content on paying Kirk as much as we are. (You're not paying him anything.......and who gives a f*** what he is paid.)

I’m baffled by this. (Because you don't think.) Any other good program wouldn’t wait every 6 years for a good season. (Florida and Texas fans are enjoying the coaching carousel right now.....)

Also some guy said we will be over the hump
Soon, I thought we were when we finished ranked 8 for three seasons in a row (Nah that's your fault for jumping the gun) but then Kirk happened. (You mean our coach for those prior 3 years happened?) If we aren’t over the hump in 19 years, how long does it take??? (Until you leave. You wanna keep waiting?.....)

Bruno, you never responded to my post. Such neglect......I feel hurt man. Hurt, I tell you.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Michigan also plays Ohio St. every year, and now play in the MUCH more difficult East division.

Are we making excuses for Michigan?

Stop that. Stop that now.

"Well, I'm just pointing out-"

No.......I said stop.

 

[Herky96]

I feel dumber having read through this discussion. KF has done the best he could do short of cheating. That is really the only way to recruit the type of players to Iowa that would produce 10+ wins every year. Hayden Fry had similar results during his tenure because it's just the way it is here. Accept it, or find another team you can support. The mindless ranting about how inadequate KF is as a coach adds no value.

 

[The_Joker13]

Are we making excuses for Michigan?

Stop that. Stop that now.

"Well, I'm just pointing out-"

No.......I said stop.

Dude, I know you’re schtick. You’re the one that needs to stop.

 

[The_Joker13]

I feel dumber having read through this discussion. KF has done the best he could do short of cheating. That is really the only way to recruit the type of players to Iowa that would produce 10+ wins every year. Hayden Fry had similar results during his tenure because it's just the way it is here. Accept it, or find another team you can support. The mindless ranting about how inadequate KF is as a coach adds no value.

And just accepting his coaching style when the game has obviously passed him by is what exactly? You can stop with the “go find another team” bullshit. The Hawkeyes are more than the fvcking coach. I will always be a Hawkeye fan.

 

[BrunoMars420]

Bruno, you never responded to my post. Such neglect......I feel hurt man. Hurt, I tell you.

If you pay someone a certain salary you expect them to coach to that level if not exceed it. He has done neither which is a problem IMO.

Florida and Texas also expect success which is why they are making sure to going through the carousel. What will you say once they do find there coach and they go on to 10+ win seasons year in and year out? And honestly I would rather have Florida’s success in the SEC this last decade then ours.

And like the poster above said, there is more then being a hawkeye then just a football coach. Just keep enjoying that salty D of kirks in your ass and mouth. I’m sure him slapping you around and making you a blind follower is making you happy.

 

[RocknRollface]

Lol okay fine......You don't have to play anymore. If you wanna quit, you have my permission.

Do you honestly think your impressing anyone with this little act?

You sound like a little kid.

Grow up and act like a man.

 

[hawx]

I don't trust Barta to hire a new coach. If and when Kirk retires (on his terms or not), I really hope we have a fresh AD with a different mindset in charge.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Dude, I know you’re schtick. You’re the one that needs to stop.

Oh no, that's not happening any time soon. Too many pessimists to troll still. Too easy.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Do you honestly think your impressing anyone with this little act? (I already did that. Don't need to anymore.)

You sound like a little kid. (So do you.)

Grow up and act like a man. (You first, big guy.)

 

[BrunoMars420]

Is evil monkey part of Antifa?