2013 Class Attrition Getting Out Of Hand?

[rivercityjazzman]

Across all of college football, generally only half the players in a recruiting class become major contributors. The 2013 class is no different. If the other guys weren't fits for the program, better to get them out so we can bring in fresh blood. Those guys are no longer in the program for a reason.

I agree. It's not new, and it's not specific to us.

After a 5 minute Internet search, here are some interesting links I found.
1) The OP walks through simple math to calculate the minimal attrition rate that must occur, in order for schools to be at 85 scholarships (total) each year:
http://auburn.247sports.com/Board/42/Contents/Attrition-in-college-football-8345188

2) Article from Chicago tribune, which focuses on the 2008 class of Illinois state (17/22 left before graduating), but mentions many of the reasons why recruits leave programs.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...all-players-college-football-graduation-rates

3) Fascinating article from a higher Ed source (somewhat OT, but peripherally relevant), talking about graduation rates and how they can mislead, advocating for an "adjusted graduation gap" rather than the "graduation success rate", or GSR, which is what's favored by the NCAA:
"Enter the Adjusted Graduation Gap, a model that compares athletes’ graduation rates by conference and sport directly to the rates of their non-athlete peers by factoring out part-time students."

https://www.insidehighered.com/news...-graduate-rates-lower-full-time-student-peers

4) this one addresses the question posed by the OP directly. Some dedicated soul calculated the attrition rates for all power-5 programs since 2002!! Bottom line - Iowa's attrition rate slightly higher than the average B1G attrition rate.

Over a 12 year period, the overall attrition rate for the entire B1G was 37%. Iowa's, during this period, was 40%. Indiana's was the highest (44%) and northwestern's was the lowest (24%).
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/2y4waq/power_5_conference_attrition_rates_for_2002/

 

[iowalaw]

Rivercity - while I appreciate you posting a bunch of other people's research, I wonder why you don't offer your own opinion on the topic. Strange.

The one bit of opinion you did offer is that Iowa's attrition rate (which the 2013 class is already 60%) is "only slightly higher than avg" (37%). You couldn't be more confused. Based on the facts in your own articles, Iowa's 2013 attrition is almost DOUBLE the average attrition. Not sure how that is no big deal to you, or merely a "slightly" higher rate. To the contrary, you unwittingly support my entire premise, that the 2013 class has a huge attrition problem. The question is, how do we fix it.

 

[Scott559]

You can't fix 2013. What do you do, You move on, Keep trying to get better at recruiting ( Which seems to be on a nice uptick). You continually try to improve the roster, Iowa seems to be doing that. Maybe Iowa already fixed the problem after the program reevaluation after the Tennessee Bowl game. Anyway, I am not losing any sleep over the attrition rate from 2013. I think the program is moving in a positive direction.

 

[rivercityjazzman]

Rivercity - while I appreciate you posting a bunch of other people's research, I wonder why you don't offer your own opinion on the topic.

The one bit of opinion you did offer is that Iowa's attrition rate (which the 2013 class is already 60%) is "only slightly higher than avg" (37%). You couldn't be more confused. Based on the facts in your own articles, Iowa's 2013 attrition is almost DOUBLE the average attritionn

Please re-read the first sentence of my prior post re: my opinion on this matter. I'm posting research in order to try to add rational evidence to the discussion, and to support my argument. Moreover, it gives readers the opportunity to look at the data for themselves in order that they may form their own opinions.

I believe it's you that may be confused. The 40% attrition rate is for Iowa, over a 12 year period (2002-2014), which is only slightly higher than the B1G average (37%) for that same period. To be precise, [(40-37)/37]*100=8%; in other words, Iowa's attrition rate was 8% higher than the B1G average, for a 12 year time period of 2002-2014.

To quote one year's rate, 60% for 2013 class, is to look at the situation from a very narrow perspective. 2013 was outside the data set I'm referring to. I don't know the rates for the rest of the B1G schools, so it could be quite different from the others, or not. Hard to know what to make of it. You are entitled to your opinion, however.

 

[hawkinthelou]

The short-sightedness of some fans is mind blowing. It makes me question if any of you are actual Iowa grads. We didn't want these guys anyway because they didn't start as freshmen so they must have sucked? I'll bet my salary that the coaching staff would disagree with you. And it's not "negative" to point out a problem that needs to be fixed.

Spearman was an athletic freak who was in on our raider package as a 17 yr old true freshmen. He wouldn't have contributed 3 years later over the backup LBs we have this year? Has anyone seen our backup QBs play? They do not inspire any confidence at all. You really don't think Shimonek would have been pushing for our backup QB spot?

We have the worst WR corp in the Big 10. You don't think guys like Warfield (who could have gone to ASU or Penn State or 6'3 4.4 speed Jones, athletic freaks, could have given us better depth at WR than what we currently have, which are 2 star kids like Falconer or the true freshmen who have not even stepped foot on campus? Not to mention Willies, who would likely be our #1 offensive threat.

Then others say that there were also some good players in the class of 2013 to rebut this thread. I ask...what the hell does King's success have to do with the huge attrition suffered by the class? How does that make losing 60% of the recruits that our own coaching staff though highly enough of to give them full scholarships and convince them to come to Iowa? Every class is going to have guys that play. That has nothing to do with attrition, and it's really not that complicated to understand.

Signing a class of 15 in state kids is NOT the solution when the state is Iowa. Sticking your head in the sand is not the solution either. If a staff is going to bring in extremely low rated recruiting classes and sell it as we are a "developmental" program, we better at least stop the attrition so that we can develop the kids rather than having to keep bringing in large recruiting classes to stop the hemorrhaging.

Keep your $15,000. You need it worse than any of us do. That 3rd shift at at McDonald's has to be tough. Nobody here gives a rat's ass what you say. Teams that go 12-0 in the regular season are not hemorrhaging. If you want to be a good troll, you will need to come up with something better than this.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Certainly you will be listing the accomplishments of these players who most certainly would be contributing. I assume that since you feel strongly that they would be contributing to a team coming off a 12-2 Rose Bowl team they would be contributing to the teams they switched to, especially if they went down a level of play. Let me know when we can expect that. Here is the reality, coaches miss in recruiting, some classes more than others.

 

[Freyvet]

Rivercity - while I appreciate you posting a bunch of other people's research, I wonder why you don't offer your own opinion on the topic. Strange.

The one bit of opinion you did offer is that Iowa's attrition rate (which the 2013 class is already 60%) is "only slightly higher than avg" (37%). You couldn't be more confused. Based on the facts in your own articles, Iowa's 2013 attrition is almost DOUBLE the average attrition. Not sure how that is no big deal to you, or merely a "slightly" higher rate. To the contrary, you unwittingly support my entire premise, that the 2013 class has a huge attrition problem. The question is, how do we fix it.

Cause presenting research is better than just reading an ignorant fans "opinion" like yours!

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Rivercity - while I appreciate you posting a bunch of other people's research, I wonder why you don't offer your own opinion on the topic. Strange.

The one bit of opinion you did offer is that Iowa's attrition rate (which the 2013 class is already 60%) is "only slightly higher than avg" (37%). You couldn't be more confused. Based on the facts in your own articles, Iowa's 2013 attrition is almost DOUBLE the average attrition. Not sure how that is no big deal to you, or merely a "slightly" higher rate. To the contrary, you unwittingly support my entire premise, that the 2013 class has a huge attrition problem. The question is, how do we fix it.

Well if you would use common sense (and stop being a constant negative nancy) you would realize that this was the recruiting class following a 4 win season. You might also realize this was a huge transition for the coaching staff, I had young man being "recruited" at that time by Iowa and it was horrible compared to last couple years with new staff. Lester Erb, Darrell Wilson, Erik Campbell, and Eric Johnson were absolutely horrible recruiters. at this time anyway because Johnson was burnt out, Capbell and Wilson wanted DC/OC=Pissed off (thank god they didn't get it) and Lester Erb was just nerdy. That -class was just not good for obvious reason, so really attrition of that class is not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be, then again nothing is ever as big of a deal as you make it out to be. Keep trying though b/c it doesn't get old or anything. Boy you would think we didn't just break the school record for wins last year or something. Do you also realize that we only have 17-19 scholarships for next years (amazing) 2017 class out of 25...therefore if a few more want to leave who are not going to contribute I have no problem with that

 

[mazda1]

While you never like to see kids go, we are filling these openings at a time when the program is on the rise and the on field success is attracting more high quality out of state talent.

When we are looking at an incoming class of 16-18 and really have 6 to 8 slots left a little flexibility may benefit us.

I don't see this as a big issue and it shouldn't impact us on the field. If King, Meyer, Ike etc couldn't wait to get out of here then I'm worried. If kids leave for more playing time I say wish them luck and move on. It's better for the team chemistry for them to go if they are unhappy.

Very possibly we might miss someone if we have injuries, but one of the new recruits we get because of it may contribute at a higher level.

 

[Suterman]

Iowalaw posted this same drivel on Hawkeye Nation with similar results. The 2013 class has some great players on it and has a had a lot of attrition. Except for Willies, none were going to play and Willies is a head case. Addition by subtraction.

 

[Freyvet]

While you never like to see kids go, we are filling these openings at a time when the program is on the rise and the on field success is attracting more high quality out of state talent.

When we are looking at an incoming class of 16-18 and really have 6 to 8 slots left a little flexibility may benefit us.

I don't see this as a big issue and it shouldn't impact us on the field. If King, Meyer, Ike etc couldn't wait to get out of here then I'm worried. If kids leave for more playing time I say wish them luck and move on. It's better for the team chemistry for them to go if they are unhappy.

Very possibly we might miss someone if we have injuries, but one of the new recruits we get because of it may contribute at a higher level.

Well said brotha!

 

[HawkinK.C.1]

Regarding Willies...... I believe the team's success last year was largely due to great leadership, great team chemistry, and unselfishness. Would Willies have hurt or helped in those areas? Would we still have gone 12-0 with just a little cancer on the team? Would that cancer spread? Is it really such a travesty that he is gone?

 

[iowalaw]

Guys, I get that we had a nice season last year, but is there not room or improvement? Take off the blinders, we are coming off a 2 game losing streak with the last game being an absolute blowout. It's comical how much animosity there is when someone exposes even the smallest of imperfections in a system that can be and needs to be improved. If you question anything about the program = ENEMY! lol

The 2013 class were just redshirt SOPHOMORS last year and weren't expected to contribute much to our 12-2 run. Their losses are not going to be felt until this year and next year. Developmental program, remember?

In 2017, when we have like 5 seniors on the team, you may want to revisit this thread. I'm sure the coaches are worried about the same thing.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Guys, I get that we had a nice season last year, but is there not room or improvement? Take off the blinders, we are coming off a 2 game losing streak with the last game being an absolute blowout.

The 2013 class were just redshirt sophomores last year and weren't expected to contribute much to our 12-2 run. Their losses are not going to be felt until this year and next year. Developmental program, remember?

In 2017, when we have like 5 seniors on the team, you may want to revisit this thread. I'm sure the coaches are worried about the same thing.

The problem is not the attrition, as we have all eluded too. The problem was the recruiting class itself, it was not very good b/c of the 4 win 2012 season and coaching transition (this has been explained for IDK like the last 3 years). Attrition in itself is not always as big of a problem that some (you) will make it out to be. If they are not going to make contributions on the field, like most of the players on that list, then is it really that big of a deal. The players that stuck it out from that class are pretty darn good and several players that are replacing the players that left seem to be pretty darn good as well. Is this really a problem or more of a solution to fixing the old regime?

 

[SigMaintHawk]

Regarding Willies...... I believe the team's success last year was largely due to great leadership, great team chemistry, and unselfishness. Would Willies have hurt or helped in those areas? Would we still have gone 12-0 with just a little cancer on the team? Would that cancer spread? Is it really such a travesty that he is gone?

The coaching staff still pursued this "cancer" throughout last year...They offered him,yet, another chance to rejoin the team (obviously with conditions). This opportunity was after the initial transfer/attempt to return stuff. He would have rejoined the team in Jan 2016....if he had accepted the staff's last offer. He chose not to accept this offer and took his talents to TT..Not sure the staff would label him a "cancer"...

 

[whatsup13579er]

Guys, I get that we had a nice season last year, but is there not room or improvement? Take off the blinders, we are coming off a 2 game losing streak with the last game being an absolute blowout. It's comical how much animosity there is when someone exposes even the smallest of imperfections in a system that can be and needs to be improved. If you question anything about the program = ENEMY! lol

The 2013 class were just redshirt SOPHOMORS last year and weren't expected to contribute much to our 12-2 run. Their losses are not going to be felt until this year and next year. Developmental program, remember?

In 2017, when we have like 5 seniors on the team, you may want to revisit this thread. I'm sure the coaches are worried about the same thing.

High attrition of a single class shouldn't effect the overall product on the field too much. Back to back classes of high attrition is when you would really feel it. The 2014 and 2015 classes were pretty good for Iowa with many of those recruits expected to contribute next season or have already contributed. They will help cover the low numbers of the 2013 class.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

The coaching staff still pursued this "cancer" throughout last year...They offered him,yet, another chance to rejoin the team (obviously with conditions). This opportunity was after the initial transfer/attempt to return stuff. He would have rejoined the team in Jan 2016....if he had accepted the staff's last offer. He chose not to accept this offer and took his talents to TT..Not sure the staff would label him a "cancer"...

Really all of this is all hear-say one way or another. Nobody really knows the whole story. We know he was/is talented, we know he quit midseason (which is unheard of), we know we won 12 games without him last year, and we know he is playing at a subpar Texas Tech team. Other than that, the rest is just rumors and speculation

 

[whatsup13579er]

...know he quit midseason...

and quit again after he tried to come back when he didn't want to work his way back onto the team. Kid quit on his teammates twice. Doesn't exactly scream like a must have guy in the locker room.

 

[SigMaintHawk]

Really all of this is all hear-say one way or another. Nobody really knows the whole story. We know he was/is talented, we know he quit midseason (which is unheard of), we know we won 12 games without him last year, and we know he is playing at a subpar Texas Tech team. Other than that, the rest is just rumors and speculation

Based on a quote from Blair Sanderson from a conversation with Willies? Bobby Kennedy had some short statements about Willies during last year's spring interviews..If Willies was such a "cancer" as has been stated..why were members of the staff still pursuing/contacting him? I have no problem with the way KF handled the situation. My issue is with people labeling him a "cancer" when it is obvious the staff was still willing to give him a 3rd chance, at rejoining this team in Jan 2016. If he had agreed to the conditions set forth by the staff...He would be a current member...Would he still be a "cancer"?

 

[whatsup13579er]

If he had agreed to the conditions set forth by the staff...He would be a current member...Would he still be a "cancer"?

If cancer wasn't cancer would we call it cancer?

He made some bad choices (in the eyes of Iowa fans), had the chance to right his wrongs, but chose not to. Therefore, his actions as an Iowa Hawkeye were cancerous. Let's recap: He quit, wanted to come back, didn't want to put in the extra work to meet KF's terms, and quit again. He wasn't a fit for the Iowa program.

 

[SigMaintHawk]

If cancer wasn't cancer would we call it cancer?

He made some bad choices (in the eyes of Iowa fans), had the chance to right his wrongs, but chose not to. Therefore, his actions as an Iowa Hawkeye were cancerous. Let's recap: He quit, wanted to come back, didn't want to put in the extra work to meet KF's terms, and quit again. He wasn't a fit for the Iowa program.

You forgot to list the fact the staff offered him yet again, another chance to come back....If they thought he was such a cancer...why did they continue to pursue him? If he wasn't a "fit" for the Iowa program...why was he afforded the opportunity to be a member of this current team? As stated numerous times...He could have rejoined the team in Jan of this year.

Fans label him as a cancer..Staff obviously felt differently..Wonder who actually knows something....the fans or the staff...

 

[David1979]

IT'S GETTING OUT OF HAND PEOPLE!!! WHY ISN'T EVERYBODY FREAKING OUT?????!!! WILL THEY EVEN BE ABLE TO FIELD A TEAM NEXT YEAR?

 

[iowalaw]

I don't often agree with Sig, but in this case, he's right. By all accounts, Willies was a great athlete and a great teammate, not a cancer. CJ Beathard went to bat for him. The coaches wanted him back badly. Unfortunately, I think Willies saw what happens to guys that fall into Ferentz's dog house...they never get out. Willies did what was best for him and left for a team that gives him a shot at 1000 yards per year and a ticket to the NFL. At Iowa, he was playing behind Andrew Stone and Jake Hillyer BEFORE he quit. It's unlikely that he would have broken through for a while when he came back.

 

[J_Heater]

Guys, I get that we had a nice season last year, but is there not room or improvement? Take off the blinders, we are coming off a 2 game losing streak with the last game being an absolute blowout. It's comical how much animosity there is when someone exposes even the smallest of imperfections in a system that can be and needs to be improved. If you question anything about the program = ENEMY! lol

I think it goes back to the old saying, "this team could go unbeaten and people would still bitch." Swags told me once that we should try it just to see if I am right. Well I was! Hooray Me!

This team definitely could improve. But I'm going to leave that to the coaches while I go enjoy my summer.

Now can you explain how whining about something that has already happened can help us improve in the future? I mean if you bitched about Derrick Willies, how does that help us in 2016? Lets say you believe that our staff should learn from it's mistakes with attrition. How does you telling me about it help the team improve?

 

[whatsup13579er]

I don't often agree with Sig, but in this case, he's right. By all accounts, Willies was a great athlete and a great teammate, not a cancer. CJ Beathard went to bat for him. The coaches wanted him back badly. Unfortunately, I think Willies saw what happens to guys that fall into Ferentz's dog house...they never get out. Willies did what was best for him and left for a team that gives him a shot at 1000 yards per year and a ticket to the NFL. At Iowa, he was playing behind Andrew Stone and Jake Hillyer BEFORE he quit. It's unlikely that he would have broken through for a while when he came back.

He played as a true frosh before he quit the team and had to redshirt last season due to the transfer. You really think he wasn't going to play if he stuck with his team? I think I can count on one hand how many WRs have seen legit PT as a true frosh during the KF era.

 

[SigMaintHawk]

He played as a true frosh before he quit the team and had to redshirt last season due to the transfer. You really think he wasn't going to play if he stuck with his team? I think I can count on one hand how many WRs have seen legit PT as a true frosh during the KF era.

Willies redshirted his first year at Iowa. He played Juco ball last year in Tx.

 

[whatsup13579er]

Willies redshirted his first year at Iowa. He played Juco ball last year in Tx.

You're right. I had my years mixed up. The point still stands that he lost a year of D1 football by transferring.

 

[whatsup13579er]

Let's look at the 2013 class and the guys that are still here:
Parker - Borderline starter
Jewell - Multi-year starter, All B1G potential
Wadley - Lightning to Daniels's thunder, All B1G potential
King - Multi-year starter, Consensus All-American, Thorpe Award Winner
Daniels - Thunder to Wadley's lightning. All B1G potential
Vandeberg - Multi-year starter, All B1G Potential
Wisnieski - Could see time as 2nd/3rd TE this season
Ike - Multi-year starter, All B1G potential
Welsh - Multi-year starter, AA potential
Mitchell - 3rd down back
Bazata - Multi-year starter
Bower - Walk-on turned starter, fighting for starting spot
Myers - Walk-on turned multi-year starter

11 scholarship guys remain and 8 will play starter snaps in 2016 barring injury. 2 walk-ons have earned schollys and earned starting spots.

19 of the 22 starters next season will be in their 5th, 4th, or 3rd year in the program. That is a pretty good mix.

 

[Freyvet]

The short-sightedness of some fans is mind blowing. It makes me question if any of you are actual Iowa grads. We didn't want these guys anyway because they didn't start as freshmen so they must have sucked? I'll bet my salary that the coaching staff would disagree with you. And it's not "negative" to point out a problem that needs to be fixed.

Spearman was an athletic freak who was in on our raider package as a 17 yr old true freshmen. He wouldn't have contributed 3 years later over the backup LBs we have this year? Has anyone seen our backup QBs play? They do not inspire any confidence at all. You really don't think Shimonek would have been pushing for our backup QB spot?

We have the worst WR corp in the Big 10. You don't think guys like Warfield (who could have gone to ASU or Penn State or 6'3 4.4 speed Jones, athletic freaks, could have given us better depth at WR than what we currently have, which are 2 star kids like Falconer or the true freshmen who have not even stepped foot on campus? Not to mention Willies, who would likely be our #1 offensive threat.

Then others say that there were also some good players in the class of 2013 to rebut this thread. I ask...what the hell does King's success have to do with the huge attrition suffered by the class? How does that make losing 60% of the recruits that our own coaching staff though highly enough of to give them full scholarships and convince them to come to Iowa? Every class is going to have guys that play. That has nothing to do with attrition, and it's really not that complicated to understand.

Signing a class of 15 in state kids is NOT the solution when the state is Iowa. Sticking your head in the sand is not the solution either. If a staff is going to bring in extremely low rated recruiting classes and sell it as we are a "developmental" program, we better at least stop the attrition so that we can develop the kids rather than having to keep bringing in large recruiting classes to stop the hemorrhaging.

Iowalaw. Please stop using "We" when referring to Iowa Football, The University of Iowa or anything Iowa. Sincerely, The Good People of Iowa

 

[theIowaHawk]

Willies did what was best for him and left for a team that gives him a shot at 1000 yards per year and a ticket to the NFL. At Iowa, he was playing behind Andrew Stone and Jake Hillyer BEFORE he quit. It's unlikely that he would have broken through for a while when he came back.

Ticket to the NFL? Their last WR drafted was Crabtree in 2009. Welker was undrafted. They've had 4 WRs drafted since 2000. Hell, they've only had 2 players total drafted since 2011.

Iowa had McNutt drafted since their last WR was drafted, not that it speaks well for Iowa receivers. Iowa has 15 draftees against 2 from Tech since 2011.

Also, I have no idea how you come to the conclusion that you did, that it is "unlikely" that he would break through. Guys ahead of him graduated, why wouldn't he "break through"?

Edit: Tech did have a WR go 6th round this year, and two others get drafted in the 3rd and fifth round, which makes it Iowa 16 - Tech 5 since 2011.

 

[caseyballzz]

Perhaps they should be encouraged to participate in some organized on-campus activity with other students with common interests. Like, say, the football team.

Or go to class and don't get arrested!?

 

[leiserom]

I believe Shimonek left because he could not adapt to playing under center. He basically said so. He was used to playing out of the shotgun(like a lot of Texas HS). Just wasnt a good fit for him

 

[SigMaintHawk]

I believe Shimonek left because he could not adapt to playing under center. He basically said so. He was used to playing out of the shotgun(like a lot of Texas HS). Just wasnt a good fit for him

Both Iowa and Shimonek took a chance...Shimonek only had one other college option-Lamar..He recieved a p5 offer and took a shot...Iowa needed a qb,Davis saw something in him and gave the kid a chance..it didn't work out...Happens all the time on every campus. Last I knew, he had walked on at Texas Tech..Don't know if he is now on schollie or if he is still there.

 

[whatsup13579er]

Both Iowa and Shimonek took a chance...Shimonek only had one other college option-Lamar..He recieved a p5 offer and took a shot...Iowa needed a qb,Davis saw something in him and gave the kid a chance..it didn't work out...Happens all the time on every campus. Last I knew, he had walked on at Texas Tech..Don't know if he is now on schollie or if he is still there.

#16 Nic Shimonek is listed as RS Junior on TT's roster with a 125.6 career QBR.

 

[David1979]

Let's look at the 2013 class and the guys that are still here:
Parker - Borderline starter
Jewell - Multi-year starter, All B1G potential
Wadley - Lightning to Daniels's thunder, All B1G potential
King - Multi-year starter, Consensus All-American, Thorpe Award Winner
Daniels - Thunder to Wadley's lightning. All B1G potential
Vandeberg - Multi-year starter, All B1G Potential
Wisnieski - Could see time as 2nd/3rd TE this season
Ike - Multi-year starter, All B1G potential
Welsh - Multi-year starter, AA potential
Mitchell - 3rd down back
Bazata - Multi-year starter
Bower - Walk-on turned starter, fighting for starting spot
Myers - Walk-on turned multi-year starter

11 scholarship guys remain and 8 will play starter snaps in 2016 barring injury. 2 walk-ons have earned schollys and earned starting spots.

19 of the 22 starters next season will be in their 5th, 4th, or 3rd year in the program. That is a pretty good mix.

Brant Gressel is still with Iowa.

 

[whatsup13579er]

Brant Gressel is still with Iowa.

I was going off of the OP's list that said he was gone. You are correct Gressel is still on the roster but appears to be buried on the depth chart. Hopefully something clicks for him and he can contribute his last couple seasons.

 

[Gladeskat]

We have the worst WR corp in the Big 10.

Nope. We (Northwestern) have the worst WR corp in the Big 10. Hands down. Aside from Vitale, they were horrible last year.

 

[Gladeskat]

4) this one addresses the question posed by the OP directly. Some dedicated soul calculated the attrition rates for all power-5 programs since 2002!! Bottom line - Iowa's attrition rate slightly higher than the average B1G attrition rate.

Over a 12 year period, the overall attrition rate for the entire B1G was 37%. Iowa's, during this period, was 40%. Indiana's was the highest (44%) and northwestern's was the lowest (24%).
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/2y4waq/power_5_conference_attrition_rates_for_2002/

The numbers for Northwestern are BS. They're WAY off!!! Usually too high, but some years too low by a player. The percentage should be more like 15% than 24%

 

[cidhawkeye]

Thank you for the clarification

 

[icantfindausernamethatisntused]

The 2013 class were just redshirt SOPHOMORS last year and weren't expected to contribute much to our 12-2 run.

Yet they did, despite the low recruiting ranking you're bitching about.

• Desmond King - we "stole" him from Eastern Michigan and is the typical type of recruit you bitch about.
• Josey Jewell - unathletic Iowa kid whose only other option was UNI. Just as you bitched about Iowa "settling" for Eric Graham last year, I'm sure you bitched about Jewell being offered a scholarship in the final days of the 2013 recruiting class.
• Akrum Wadley - another two star player you probably bitched about us recruiting. His only other offer was Temple.
• Matt VandeBerg - two star WR from South Dakota. I can't imagine how much you bitched about him. Oddly enough, he was our leading receiver last year.
• Ike Boettger - no other offers (not even Iowa State). I'm sure you bitched about him.
• Nathan Bazata - only other offer was South Dakota State. I'm sure you bitched about him.

Bottom line is that you do nothing but bitch about Iowa football. You're a one trick pony. Even after a year in which we were inches away from the CFB Playoff, finished in the top 10, and return most of our starters, you're still finding a way to bitch about a recruiting class from 3 years ago that produced a lot of major contributors, including the Jim Thorpe award winner. You're bitching about this class not even because of concern for the upcoming year, but because you're speculating that next year we might be in trouble without them. If you bitch long enough, you're going to eventually "justify" your bitching because every program has down years. But you know what people call other people that do nothing that bitch?....