2017 Roster at 14 schollies + Connor; MUST be down to 13 by 1st day of classes of Fall 2017 semester
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If Cook plays well enough to be a sure fire 1st rounder that would be an incredible surprise. A very welcome one, but incredible nonetheless.
Doubtful.
I think Cook will be an excellent player for Iowa, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he doesn't play 4 years at Iowa. However, I'd be absolutely shocked if he leaves for the pros after one year. I just get the feeling from everything I've heard about him that even if he dominated, he'd be back unless he was a guaranteed lottery pick.
The signals I am reading (Dale Jones not addressing what he will do after this year in certain terms) is that with a good healthy year he jumps on a chance to earn a good living playing overseas. That's my wild azz guess. Then there's always a chance of another transfer due to lack of playing time.
Just threw it against the wall to see if it would stick. That's all anyone can do at this time.
Cook's family, especially Mom, picked Fran and Iowa because it is a clean program where he can get an education and associate with some decent kids. I think he stays at Iowa longer than a year or even two,.
The latest, from HawkCentral:
The addition of Garza (received signed LOI on Nov 9) and Nunge (signed LOI to come on Nov 10) already will take Iowa to 14 scholarships next season, with only 13 available.
You can sign up to a 14th player. NCAA rules, however, prohibit the signing of a 15th player. You must be down to 13 scholarship players by the first day of classes of the fall semester. This means something has to change before Connor McCaffery can come on board.
“It’ll get figured out. I’m not worried about it,” Connor McCaffery told a single reporter in the hallway outside the West High gymnasium Wednesday.
Connor is a 6-foot-6 point guard rated by ESPN as the top player in his class in Iowa, 83rd in the nation. He made the decision to play for his dad two years ago. Normally, that would mean a signing-day ceremony at his school, possibly a news conference and tons of congratulatory messages pouring in on Twitter.
“I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t make a difference to me,” McCaffery said of the absence of such activity.
“I’ll have some type of signing party eventually, just depending on when it is.”
full story is here: http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...s-time-before-joining-iowa-hawkeyes/93551458/
The addition of Garza (received signed LOI on Nov 9) and Nunge (signed LOI to come on Nov 10) already will take Iowa to 14 scholarships next season, with only 13 available.
You can sign up to a 14th player. NCAA rules, however, prohibit the signing of a 15th player. You must be down to 13 scholarship players by the first day of classes of the fall semester. This means something has to change before Connor McCaffery can come on board.
“It’ll get figured out. I’m not worried about it,” Connor McCaffery told a single reporter in the hallway outside the West High gymnasium Wednesday.
Connor is a 6-foot-6 point guard rated by ESPN as the top player in his class in Iowa, 83rd in the nation. He made the decision to play for his dad two years ago. Normally, that would mean a signing-day ceremony at his school, possibly a news conference and tons of congratulatory messages pouring in on Twitter.
“I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t make a difference to me,” McCaffery said of the absence of such activity.
“I’ll have some type of signing party eventually, just depending on when it is.”
full story is here: http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...s-time-before-joining-iowa-hawkeyes/93551458/
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Yup, good to hear. As mentioned this past summer just got to let these things play out. We end up with two top 150 guys and a highly regarded three star. Have another 4 star coming next year. Things are going great!
So happy that Iowa is in this position as opposed seeking talent worthy of scholarships. Cook leaving seems unlikely, Baer being stripped of his scholarship is even more remote. I'm wondering with Dale if the leg is healthy as there are all ready concerns over his knee swelling up this week post Regis. Most likely scenario is APTBNL will opt out for greener pastures and Dale moves onward and upward.
Maybe I'm late to the party, but this style of writing wreaks on the man we dare not speak the name of.
No one knows for sure, of course, but Cook is not a sure-fire NBA player. If you haven't noticed, post players in the NBA aren't 6-8. It's why Fran has promised him opportunities to drive the ball and shoot it from the outside when open (even if he's not a great shooter). But the likelihood of Cook leaving after 1 year is not great.
God, remember the Lick years when so many players left each year that we couldn't keep a full roster?
Hah, so the NCAA prohibits signing a 15TH player ? Because that would mean NEXT YEAR there would be too many on scholarship. You have only to look at the present rosters of many NCAA teams to wonder what's going on, like some with 18 listed. 5 walkons, get real, esp,. when many of them are transfers. A kid doesn't transfer to walk on.
I predict Dale Jones will be done after this year. He's listed as a senior on the official team website. He's on the team poster (with Jok). The team certainly seems to be treating this like his last year.
Not that it matters or would have any effect on this, but an LOI isn't a requirement to accept a scholarship.
I just briefly glanced at RealGM, staring at Atlanta. Paul Milsap (ATL), Amir Johnson (BOS) and Trevor Booker (Nets) are all starting PF and are all listed at 6'8 or 6'9. So there are definitely NBA posts that are 6'8. I know they aren't the only ones, the NBA has a LOT of 6'8-6'9 posts.
Definitely in the mix of possibilities.
If Brady is first off the bench to sub for Peter Jok this year (a good possibility) then he will likely stay and compete for a starting position next year.
I read an article yesterday that said Jones knee was swelling up after the exhibition game. I think he's done after this year. Connor walks on unless another player leaves.
Just an interesting thought, since someone brought up Patrick in the original post. Has he actually ever committed to Iowa? I know its widely assumed he will be here as well. The only thing I remember is that Margret wasn't going to let him committ before his freshmen year. I think the family, especially momma bear, may keep a close eye on how well things go for Conner in his time here. If things were to go south for the team for awhile the fans here, like to "eat our young", so to speak. Hopefully he doesn't go through the Ogelsby, Ellingson experience, where comments are posted daily wishing he was gone. Make no mistake, this will be an interesting time with Fran's offspring on the team. I wish nothing but the best for both young men, and hope they have great careers here, but it could be interesting.
from HawkCentral:
But the status of backup forward Dale Jones is uncertain. The fifth-year junior had knee surgery in December, and McCaffery said it was swelling up this week.
“That may be ongoing throughout the whole season,” McCaffery said. “I hope not, because he really hasn't had any swelling, but he did the last couple days. So we're going to be protective of him; we'll see how that works out when the game comes.”
full story: http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...uka-garza-jack-nunge-kennesaw-state/93540556/
What you just said. That's why this board has to enforce the rules about what posters can submit.
It's possible, just that the majority of the 6-8 inside players aren't being drafted high enough to make a guy come out early. Milsap and Johnson were both second-round picks. They both have had solid careers, but for every Milsap and Johnson there are lots of guys that size who never make it. Booker was a first-round pick and solid NBA player.
Hopefully Cook does have a decision to make in a couple of years, as it will mean he's dominated at the college level.
Well, if you think about it, what you just said goes for every college basketball player whether they are big tall guys like Tyler Ulis or short little fellas. I don't know why we Iowans get concerned over how tall a guys is. Must have something to do with watching the corn grow. Rest assured Charles Barkley would still make it in the NBA today.
I thought it is an NCAA rule that once you are on scholarship you can't go back to walk on status. Baer can't hop on & off his scholly. Too many opportunities for wild scale abuse across 300 schools. Later.... Im wrong. Never mind.
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worst case scenario: Connor walks on and one of the 14 scholarship players for next season leaves the program
Problem is, what if none of the 14 want to leave? Sure, a transfer or two seems to happen every year but imagine if no one leaves the program, including Dale Jones? I mean, he did ask for the 6th year for a reason; he wanted to play that extra year of college ball.
Fran has approx 9 months to figure this puzzle out
Problem is, what if none of the 14 want to leave? Sure, a transfer or two seems to happen every year but imagine if no one leaves the program, including Dale Jones? I mean, he did ask for the 6th year for a reason; he wanted to play that extra year of college ball.
Fran has approx 9 months to figure this puzzle out
If that's the case the same thing happens as did to Bielfeldt and Albrecht at Michigan. In fact, the only reason it won't happen to Jones is if we have a ride available for him.
Jones will have his degree and doesn't get to pick if he plays on scholarship at Iowa, enjoying a sixth year of eligibility. Iowa has met it's obligation, just like Michigan did with Bielfeldt and Albrecht.
I haven't seen anywhere in the media where Jones would be the man out if everyone wanted to stay. Fran hasn't hinted at anything, either, except that there is not a problem right now. Are you just assuming this is what would happen at Iowa?
Things change. When McDermott was at Creighton they were not offering 4 year rides. The B1G has gone from year to year scholarship renewal to a 4 year offer. I really don't think a scholarship player could move to a walk-on, for the first 4 years on campus.
Not really. I think Jones made it pretty clear in an interview not long ago that his sixth year at Iowa is still up in the air. If just one transfer happens it wouldn't have to be the case that he leaves. But obviously he knows other options may take place. Why would Fran, in November, say Jones is the odd man out if there isn't yet a reason for him to have to leave?
http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...eturn-big-ten-conference-media-days/91960344/
As to assuming, I'm not assuming anything. Just pointing out that if no one transfers Jones is the one guy that will have graduated and can be expected to move on.
Going still another step down the path, would Connor still walk on if two players decided to leave (e.g., Jones and BE), allowing Iowa to recruit still another player in the next class?
