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Until a wrestler is in the top 33 rankings (or seeds, as I will do this throughout the year), they do not make it into the model.
2025 Hawkeyes' Expected All-Americans
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Until a wrestler is in the top 33 rankings (or seeds, as I will do this throughout the year), they do not make it into the model.
dude you must be in risk management,you sure know how to suck the fun out of wrestling
I was really impressed with Bastida last year, so that will be a great test for him.
My guess is, Ben, will continue to ADD good size and continue on his mission to become BIG Ben! He will be a VERY tuff out against almost anyone and if he ever got on the special stuff, he could dang well WIN IT this year!!! He is only missing the HorsePower!
Based on what? The guy has gone to 4 NCAA Tournaments and has AA'd every time. When it comes to being an AA, he is probably the most reliable option on the entire team....
125- I hope Peterson can handle the weight and stays healthy and competes hard. No clue need to see more
133- Ayala will be on the podium. How high depends on how much strength he gained going up. He has the tools we will see if has the HP. Top 4
141- Block, trying to read in between the lines and my best guess is he is going to be shot out of a cannon and will have a major impact. Can he carry this through march is the question. He is an athlete and stronger then he looks, My guess is he is in the mix to AA 50/50
149- Parco is going to thrive in our environment! Top 4
157- Teemer just needs to stay healthy and will be a factor come March. Top 4
165- Calstar Breaks out to become our leader with dominating wins. Top 3
174- Kennedy or Arnold will be on the podium 3-8
184- BRANDS will AA here 3-8
197- Buckshot 1-5
285- Big Ben will shock the masses 2-6
If we are healthy we get 8 on the podium, Im going to really enjoy this season.
133- Ayala will be on the podium. How high depends on how much strength he gained going up. He has the tools we will see if has the HP. Top 4
141- Block, trying to read in between the lines and my best guess is he is going to be shot out of a cannon and will have a major impact. Can he carry this through march is the question. He is an athlete and stronger then he looks, My guess is he is in the mix to AA 50/50
149- Parco is going to thrive in our environment! Top 4
157- Teemer just needs to stay healthy and will be a factor come March. Top 4
165- Calstar Breaks out to become our leader with dominating wins. Top 3
174- Kennedy or Arnold will be on the podium 3-8
184- BRANDS will AA here 3-8
197- Buckshot 1-5
285- Big Ben will shock the masses 2-6
If we are healthy we get 8 on the podium, Im going to really enjoy this season.
125: it’s not the deepest weight gives me some hope.
133: No doubt in my he AA’s and would not be shocked if is wrestling on Saturday night.
141: Block is going to be hungry. Reminds me of a bit more polished Murin. Hopefully a little better result.
149: Parco could be in the finals or wrestling for 6-8th. Could be the biggest disappointment on the team but I doubt it. He’s going to AA
157: Barring an injury he will be wrestling Saturday night.
165: See 157
174: Gabe or PK whoever it is I truly believe will have no problem being an AA.
184: Nelson is going to AA but best case scenario is 3rd. Leaning more towards 5th.
197: Barring injury Buch will be wrestling Saturday night.
Hwt: here comes the shocker to some Big Ben is going to be the biggest surprise to some. He is so gifted it’s scary. I don’t know the last time he spent this long focusing strictly on wrestling. Look out wrestling world BK is coming and I have NO Doubt he AA’s and would not be shocked if he is wrestling Saturday night. Laugh all you want but I’m telling you he is a special talent.
With all that being said these guys can and will probably take a loss or 2 along the way. But I haven’t been this excited about the team in a while. Go Hawks!!
133: No doubt in my he AA’s and would not be shocked if is wrestling on Saturday night.
141: Block is going to be hungry. Reminds me of a bit more polished Murin. Hopefully a little better result.
149: Parco could be in the finals or wrestling for 6-8th. Could be the biggest disappointment on the team but I doubt it. He’s going to AA
157: Barring an injury he will be wrestling Saturday night.
165: See 157
174: Gabe or PK whoever it is I truly believe will have no problem being an AA.
184: Nelson is going to AA but best case scenario is 3rd. Leaning more towards 5th.
197: Barring injury Buch will be wrestling Saturday night.
Hwt: here comes the shocker to some Big Ben is going to be the biggest surprise to some. He is so gifted it’s scary. I don’t know the last time he spent this long focusing strictly on wrestling. Look out wrestling world BK is coming and I have NO Doubt he AA’s and would not be shocked if he is wrestling Saturday night. Laugh all you want but I’m telling you he is a special talent.
With all that being said these guys can and will probably take a loss or 2 along the way. But I haven’t been this excited about the team in a while. Go Hawks!!
With all of the math majors in this thread, if someone wants to run some data on the effectiveness of wrestlers in their 5th, 6th, and 7th(?) year I'd like to see it. Just from the top of my head it seems there seems to be at least a plateau and maybe even a slight taper.
Maybe if you have 5th place talent, you have 5th place talent. The guys who placed a head that graduated will be replaced by some young buck that has top 4 talent. Guys that live in the round of 12 or round of 16 seem to stay there.
Maybe if you have 5th place talent, you have 5th place talent. The guys who placed a head that graduated will be replaced by some young buck that has top 4 talent. Guys that live in the round of 12 or round of 16 seem to stay there.
I’m with you. Gotta give me something besides that nothing statement.
125 - Peterson Hope he levels us, but not counting on anything
133 - Ayala Will be interesting to see how he handles it. His motor will help him and I think anywhere from 1-6
141 - Block Same as 125
149 - Parco 1-4
157 - Teemer 2-4
165 - Caliendo 2-4
174 - Kennedy top 4 - I think Arnold is there but Kennedy is better right now.
184 - Brands top 3
197 - buch top 4
HWT - Keuter 4-8
This is a solid team. Our views have been skewed to compete with PSU, but this is a damn good team. I'm as excited for the hawks as a team as I have been in awhile. I have been excited for Spencer for the past few years, not to say that I didn't want to see the others wrestle, but - I'm excited for the TEAM now.
So, your answer is:
1.) The weight class in which he has AA'd the last 4 straight years.
2.) Who "should" AA.
Please enlighten me on what 8 guys(bare minimum) "should" AA over a guy that has done it 4 years in a row? On top of that, WHY should they? I tried very hard to figure that out and I simply can not....
Well for one the draw will matter alot. Off of intermat rankings and keeping it quick the top 8 I really do believe they will AA and from 9 to 15 I do see a sneaky win coming. I'm picking parco as the one that will not make it if any of them, that is all.
Maybe not enlightening but it's my take.
Now let's hear your long winded story about how wrong i am and how you are so gifted! My savoir, straighten me out!
Maybe not enlightening but it's my take.
Now let's hear your long winded story about how wrong i am and how you are so gifted! My savoir, straighten me out!
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Lol. You are the one saying a guy that is 4for4 at the weight is likely to not AA. I can MAYBE stretch it to favor Henson, Watters, Van Ness and Lovett over him, but it isn't like he can't beat those guys. After that, the weight class drops to a couple mid-tier AA's coming up from 141 and then drops quite a bit after them.
Sorry, if I have a hard time understanding when someone picks the most proven AA on the team to not AA....
I know it's freestyle and a different weight class, but this gave me some more optimism for KP.
You didn't give a reason. You just said the 4 time AA Parco is the one you pick to disappoint. Just a random prediction?
I’m with you. In looking at the possible AA obstacles I see 4 or 5 potentials that could take him out. Like you I see Parco as one of our better bets even in a tough weight class.
No worries. The more hostile the response, the better!
As far as your questions go:
1.) Ayala-As good as he is, he is moving up to a very solid, very physical weight class. Now, I fully expect him to AA, but I think the weight is much deeper and tougher than 149.
2.) Brands-Again, I fully expect him to AA, but he is only a 1x AA at 5th and has been known to wrestle a lot of close, nail-biters.
I would then put Parco on the same tier as Buchanan and Teemer. They have combined for 10 AA finishes in 10 tries. I just don't see how you can pick any of them to not AA, short of injury.
Obviously, 125 and 141 don't count, so that leaves Caliendo, whom I believe to be the biggest lock on the team, and then some combo of Kennedy/Arnold and Kueter. I absolutely believe Arnold and Kueter finish pretty high on the podium, but I would pick both of them to falter their first time wrestling the absolute most grueling wrestling tournament in the World, before a guy that has done it 4 times...
Ok here it goes, big deep breath and 10 min of typing g because I'm a slow typer.
Ayala should be a favorite to high AA
Teemer well it's Teemer and it's a watered down 157 this year
Mikey he proved last year he is second to only one
Brands/Arnold I don't see who they can't beat after the top 4
Buch it's his to win
Kueter will be a NC just not this year
This leaves parco and a solid top 15 he's not coming in above 6th sorry, so yes the most likely to not AA.
Ayala should be a favorite to high AA
Teemer well it's Teemer and it's a watered down 157 this year
Mikey he proved last year he is second to only one
Brands/Arnold I don't see who they can't beat after the top 4
Buch it's his to win
Kueter will be a NC just not this year
This leaves parco and a solid top 15 he's not coming in above 6th sorry, so yes the most likely to not AA.
I guess our fundamental difference lies in weighting past results. To me, a guy that has done it the last 4 years gets more credit than just about anyone short of a returning, rather dominant finalist. Some guys simply know how to bring their best and navigate that bracket in March. 4for4 clearly tells me he is one of those guys.
If he was a 1x mid level AA, I could see where you are coming from. But, to me, picking against him comes very close to the classic "insanity" definition: Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results....
Looks like 125 is going to be an interesting cut. He looks like a good sized 133 to me there.
6+ year guys often regress. We've seen a ton of it with the covid years. I think he places, but wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. First year in a much deeper conference + 6 years of D1 wrestling might mean he's pretty worn down by tournament time. All it takes is a couple bad matches.
He switched schools to get to the top of the podium could be wrong, but Parco is more like Lugo then some of these six year guys that may have withered
Lugo was 2 years out of high school when he transferred to Iowa. Silly, silly comparison. Nobody transfers with the intention to get worse.
It has less to do with where Parco is now than how long he's been in school. I would have the same regression and/or injury concerns for him at ASU. It's a long time to compete in college. We see it all the time now.
I think he places, but regression or injury is a real possibility. Same goes for Teemer. And Nelson. Just to use the last couple years of hawks as an example, Spencer, Woods, Marinelli, Kemerer, Cass, and Warner all finished their careers on the downslope compared to previous years, whether it was injury, general wear and tear, or burnout.
silver medalist on the down slope, now that is a silly silly take
All the guys you mentioned AAd comfortability in their senior year.
Marinelli 5th-
Kemerer 4th
Woods 4th
Warner 5th
Cass 4th
Lee 6th- We know what happened
Based on this trend, it’s looking good that Parco will AA
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