Do you mean people who vote Republican or the Republican party (politicians)?Republicans don’t give a shit about public education. They never have and never will. This fake outrage by them is embrasassing.
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Do you mean people who vote Republican or the Republican party (politicians)?Republicans don’t give a shit about public education. They never have and never will. This fake outrage by them is embrasassing.
Democrats don’t seem to care about results of education. Standardized test scores seem to keep dropping. Democrats solution, stop having them take those tests.Republicans don’t give a shit about public education. They never have and never will. This fake outrage by them is embrasassing.
Republicans want to cut funding and vote against the interests of children and teachers.Democrats don’t seem to care about results of education. Standardized test scores seem to keep dropping. Democrats solution, stop having them take those tests.
We would all feel better if everything was free in education and the results were scrutinized less. That seems to be the Democrat angle.
I want the shit kids out of the classroom and I want improved standardized test scores for those left in the classroom. The shit kids can come back when they learn how to behave. How we get there is debatable but what isn’t debatable is the current structure doesn’t work. How people react to knowing the current system fails isn’t the problem, it’s the result of the problem. FIX THE PROBLEM.
I made you a new avatar.Republicans want to cut funding and vote against the interests of children and teachers.
Look at their record.
Now shut the **** up.
The purpose is to learn from mistakes so hopefully they won't be repeated. Those denying the mistakes are sure to repeat them. Those who deny the mistakes are certain to make new mistakes because they will continue to place trust in people who have an agenda that's being confused with the public interest.Aren’t schools back on normal schedules now? What is behind us, is behind us. If there was “slippage” schools have to get back to work. Arguing about shit that happened 2-3 years ago....what does that accomplish?
Are you insinuating that schools were kept closed to create this “slippage” intentionally? I prefer to believe the best interests of students, staff and parents were considered at the local levels. Some guessed right abd some guessed wrong. Move on.
Except for I've never voted for Trump, I'm a registered Independent, and the "again" makes zero sense in that hat..."AGAIN" as in when minorities were discriminated against and women were seen not heard? Additionally, I'm not angry, telling people to eff off and trying to fight bar everyone.Live look at you.
Education has been dominated for decades at all levels by liberal/democrats.Republicans want to cut funding and vote against the interests of children and teachers.
Look at their record.
Now shut the **** up.
The state of Iowa(minus two districts) was back in full by the fall of 2020. There were few issues.The results are in from Sweden where they performed the best and largest experiment possible. Lower grade teachers were in person while upper grade teachers were remote. The in-person cohort was twice as likely to get severe Covid that required hospitalization. Their spouses were about a third more likely to get severe Covid. There were fewer than 100,000 public school teachers in all of Sweden at the time. There were about 7 million public school teachers in this country. I know math is hard for you but that's a few more. Many wouldn't have gone back to school given the risk. A lot didn't.
And, before you start, I am on record here advocating for in-person schooling long before it was allowed in my state. Here's your rather serious problem. Even after the worst had passed and we went back on a hybrid model, fewer than half our students returned to school even though ALL had the option. That wasn't the state, that wasn't the schools, that wasn't the teachers...that was the parents exercising the rights you seem to ignore when it suits you. The idea that they would have sent them back when the pandemic was at it's worst is beyond laughable.
You don't have a f'n clue what you're talking about. As usual.
Republicans run the board of regents in Iowa and are the cause for colleges rising.Education has been dominated for decades at all levels by liberal/democrats.
The results speak for themselves.
You want people to STFU and just hand over more money. When college costs are completely out of control, but the students get a water slide and brick oven pizza, it’s time for a close look. When ACT scores keep dropping, but we all get a diploma for showing up some of the time, it’s time for a look.
I absolutely did not. I knew the risk was being overblown, and our approach was excessive and ineffective though.@Pinehawk thought covid was a hoax initially. **** him and what he thinks.
Education has been dominated for decades at all levels by liberal/democrats.
The results speak for themselves.
You want people to STFU and just hand over more money. When college costs are completely out of control, but the students get a water slide and brick oven pizza, it’s time for a close look. When ACT scores keep dropping, but we all get a diploma for showing up some of the time, it’s time for a look.
Bullshit to both things you said.I absolutely did not. I knew the risk was being overblown, and our approach was excessive and ineffective though.
Which has been proven to be correct.
That is why public schools are represented by boards.The purpose is to learn from mistakes so hopefully they won't be repeated. Those denying the mistakes are sure to repeat them. Those who deny the mistakes are certain to make new mistakes because they will continue to place trust in people who have an agenda that's being confused with the public interest.
Caution was warranted in the spring of 2020, when we didn't know much about the virus. Actually there were people who did know because the gain of function research began in 2014, but that's a different discussion. A lot of schools remained closed in the fall of 2020, despite ample evidence that children, and adults in good health under 50, weren't getting severely ill. Once that was apparent, resources should have been focused and targeted.That is why public schools are represented by boards.
They are duly elected officials…and when about 10% of the voters vote… you get what you get. Very few public school systems were closed after the initial closure in 2020. By 2020-21 calandra the vast majority were open “in school”…until there was a vaccine, Covid was killing folks and some caution as certainly warranted.
So much common sense in this post.Caution was warranted in the spring of 2020, when we didn't know much about the virus. Actually there were people who did know because the gain of function research began in 2014, but that's a different discussion. A lot of schools remained closed in the fall of 2020, despite ample evidence that children, and adults in good health under 50, weren't getting severely ill. Once that was apparent, resources should have been focused and targeted.
Of course we now know the efficacy of the vaccines were severely overstated. They neither prevent disease, or prevent spread. Pfizer has admitted they never even tested for prevention of spread.
The best approach would have been remote learning for high school, and in person learning for lower grades, or even a hybrid approach. Teacher resources could have been re-allocated to support a hybrid approach where older or unhealthy teachers worked online if they felt vulnerable.
No.So we should have kept everything open.
Both, of course, are false.They neither prevent disease, or prevent spread.
Teacher resources could have been re-allocated to support a hybrid approach where older or unhealthy teachers worked online if they felt vulnerable.
There was no guessing. The actual science was clear about the risk factors by August if 2020.
A new study on test scores sheds light on 'substantial' pandemic learning loss. Here's what parents need to know.
Pass rates for standardized tests dropped from 2019 to 2021, with an average of 12.8 percentage points in math and 6.8 percentage points in English language arts.www.yahoo.com
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Korin Miller
Tue, June 6, 2023 at 5:05 PM CDT
A big concern with school closures during the COVID-19 pandemic was the potential impact it could have on learning. Data has trickled in that has shown those fears have been realized — and new research adds to that.
A study published in the journal American Economic Review: Insights analyzed test score data for grades three through eight across 11 states from school districts during the 2020-2021 school year, along with district-level state standardized assessment data from spring 2016 through 2019, and 2021. The researchers found that pass rates for standardized tests dropped from 2019 to 2021, with an average of 12.8 percentage points in math and 6.8 percentage points in English language arts.
Worth noting: School districts with in-person learning had smaller declines than those with remote or hybrid learning models.
"It's clear from national data that there was a large decline in student learning during the COVID-19 pandemic," study co-author Emily Oster, an economics professor at Brown University and author of The Family Firm: A Data-Driven Guide to Better Decision Making in the Early School Years, tells Yahoo Life. "Our goal in this paper was to evaluate this in state-level testing data, where we could look carefully at correlates of the decline, in the hopes of better understanding how to implement recovery, and how to avoid these effects in the future."
But Oster's study is far from the only one to show the negative impact the pandemic had on learning. Here's what the research shows — and how parents can move forward.
What have studies shown about the impact of the pandemic on learning?
There have unfortunately been several studies since the pandemic began that show learning was impacted. "Substantial learning loss has been documented in countless studies," Brendan Bartanen, assistant professor of education policy at the University of Virginia, tells Yahoo Life. Here's what some of the larger studies have found:
- In October 2022, the National Assessment of Educational Progress (a.k.a. the "nation's report card," which samples test scores from fourth and eighth graders) found that math scores for eighth graders dropped in nearly every state. Just 26% of eighth graders were considered proficient in math, based on testing, which was down from 34% in 2019. By comparison, 36% of fourth graders were considered proficient in math, down from 41% in 2019. Only 31% of eight graders and 33% of fourth graders were considered proficient in reading.
- A study published in May 2022 from the National Center for Analysis of Longitudinal Data in Education Research analyzed data from 2.1 million students in 10,00 schools in 49 states and the District of Columbia and found that remote learning was a "primary driver of widening achievement gaps." The researchers found that math gaps didn't get larger in schools that remained in-person. "We estimate that high-poverty districts that went remote in 2020-21 will need to spend nearly all of their federal aid on academic recovery to help students recover from pandemic-related achievement losses," the researchers concluded.
- A research brief published in July 2022 found that there were signs of "academic rebounding" in the 2021-22 school year. However, it includes this note: "Despite some signs of rebounding, student achievement at the end of the 2021–22 school year remains lower than in a typical year, with larger declines in math (5 to 10 percentile points) than reading (2 to 4 percentile points)."
- Research published in the journal Nature Human Behaviour in January analyzed data from 42 studies across 15 countries and concluded that students lost about 35% of a normal school year's worth of learning when in-person schooling stopped during the pandemic.
- A Pew Research Center survey of 3,251 parents published in October 2022 found that about 61% of parents of K-12 students said the first year of the pandemic had a negative impact on their child's education. Of those, 44% say that pandemic learning is still impacting their children.
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"Dangerous".... that was the first variant.Nope; and we didn't even have the most dangerous variants circulating by then.
You idiots certainly can rewrite history here.
You need me to post the thread again and show who it was taking victory laps as we shut down?Remote learning was also tricky for families and schools to pull off, Bartanen says. "Many students and families were not able to access the supplementary resources that would make hybrid or virtual learning work well," he says. "Lower-income families faced issues related to consistent internet access, for instance. Parents who did not have as much work flexibility could not step in to supervise virtual learning or act as a secondary teacher or tutor." However, he adds, "More affluent families were able to navigate these challenges more easily."
Of course, our Resident MAGAs will ignore these key points.
Delta/Omicron was far worse"Dangerous".... that was the first variant.
LOLWUT?You need me to post the thread again and show who it was taking victory laps as we shut down?
Was a worse spreader, not more lethal.Delta/Omicron was far worse
There is some revisionist history.LOLWUT?
Schools shut down because if they hadn't, they'd have run out of teachers. Some, permanently.
Was a worse spreader
FALSEWe have a worse teacher shortage today than any time during the pandemic
Iowa ran out of teachers? Damnit, I need to find out what my kids have been doing all day for the last two years.LOLWUT?
Schools shut down because if they hadn't, they'd have run out of teachers. Some, permanently.
School districts did.Iowa ran out of teachers?
Iowa ran out of teachers?
Dude, you really do need to keep up with the science.Both, of course, are false.
And they shouldn't because it was a key factor. My son had the advantage of a stay-at-home mom, certified teacher with 1GB Fiber internet. I know many single parents and double-working parents who really struggled with Pandemic Distance Learning. It was a nightmare for everyone.Remote learning was also tricky for families and schools to pull off, Bartanen says. "Many students and families were not able to access the supplementary resources that would make hybrid or virtual learning work well," he says. "Lower-income families faced issues related to consistent internet access, for instance. Parents who did not have as much work flexibility could not step in to supervise virtual learning or act as a secondary teacher or tutor." However, he adds, "More affluent families were able to navigate these challenges more easily."
Of course, our Resident MAGAs will ignore these key points.
For a maximum of two weeks per person, not an entire semester.We had times where the number of teaching staff who was positive or on quarantine made it difficult to be open.
For a maximum of two weeks per person, not an entire semester.
But, that is a real surprise, considering the mask mandate should have been protecting everyone...