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Alito spoke with Trump before president-elect asked Supreme Court to delay his sentencing

Seriously, ever read the constitution? Bill or Rights? Amendments? Because you are making an ass out of yourself
You mean like you did yesterday in the mens basketball thread? I think you should spend a bit of time on the 'equal protection' portions if you ask me.

In the 234 years of the SCOTUS, how many justices have been impeached? Because that directly relates to the 'fire his ass' comment. As in, 'aint gonna happen'. And fact is, it shouldn't.

The level of butt hurt out of you liberals since losing total control of government a few weeks ago surprises no one.
 
Hell yes I am. Probaly the single best SCJ in my lifetime. Also a fan of Scalia, and Thomas and Gorsuch (so far). Surprised?

I am not persuaded that he, or any of them, are corrupt.
You are ok with the millions of dollars in benefits that those public servants have received from private citizens, who then gained billions due to favorable SC decisions favoring their causes?
You are a suck up to corruption as well, it seems.
Piss off if you turn a blind eye to Blatant corruption.
 
You mean like you did yesterday in the mens basketball thread? I think you should spend a bit of time on the 'equal protection' portions if you ask me.

In the 234 years of the SCOTUS, how many justices have been impeached? Because that directly relates to the 'fire his ass' comment. As in, 'aint gonna happen'. And fact is, it shouldn't.

The level of butt hurt out of you liberals since losing total control of government a few weeks ago surprises no one.
In the 234 years how many shits like Thomas have so seriously gamed the system? Millions in benefits followed by favorable decisions to those providing said benefits. Those assholes don’t even bother to hide it these days. They are blatantly gaming the citizens.
Gus is a suck up to those assholes.
 
You are ok with the millions of dollars in benefits that those public servants have received from private citizens, who then gained billions due to favorable SC decisions favoring their causes?
You are a suck up to corruption as well, it seems.
Piss off if you turn a blind eye to Blatant corruption.
No, I am against actual corruption. As in the Biden Crime Syndicate benefiting from an infusion of money from China and Ukraine over the last decade. Then the head of the snake pardoning his son for that entire period so as to immunize him from due prosecution. THAT I am against. The facts seem very clear to me.

I am also against the corrupt intelligence officials that conspired to influence an election, and per polls did so successfully, by signing a letter claiming the Hunter laptop story was a Russian counterintelligence op when in fact it was not. And was known not to be.

So yes, when corruption/conspiracy is found or suspected it should be investigated. I am not against investigating Alito for alleged impropriety if you wish. Look into it. If he's guilty in fact, do what is necessary.

The Trump DOJ can, and should, investigate the inner workings of the Biden DOJ and FBI. If corruption existed, punishment should be meted out accordingly.
 
That's a little extreme thinking imo.
Extreme? Almost 20 years ago we heard a Supreme Court Justice argue that appearance of money doesn’t imply corruption. This was an argument in favor of citizens United, which allowed dark money to to be completely legal in our system.

We’ve now witnessed many examples of this. Including, up to today, Elon exemplifying and personifying everything people have been telling us the Soros was and has been for the last, what, 20? 30 years?

Extreme? Dude. We are beyond extreme at this moment.
 
No, I am against actual corruption. As in the Biden Crime Syndicate benefiting from an infusion of money from China and Ukraine over the last decade. Then the head of the snake pardoning his son for that entire period so as to immunize him from due prosecution. THAT I am against. The facts seem very clear to me.

I am also against the corrupt intelligence officials that conspired to influence an election, and per polls did so successfully, by signing a letter claiming the Hunter laptop story was a Russian counterintelligence op when in fact it was not. And was known not to be.

So yes, when corruption/conspiracy is found or suspected it should be investigated. I am not against investigating Alito for alleged impropriety if you wish. Look into it. If he's guilty in fact, do what is necessary.

The Trump DOJ can, and should, investigate the inner workings of the Biden DOJ and FBI. If corruption existed, punishment should be meted out accordingly.
Such a clown show. Drump steals in broad daylight, yet you chase some bullshit with no legs.
Actual corruption is Thomas trading judgement for benefits. Ginny Thomas and January 6 treason. Alito protecting drump…
 
Gus is a troll or a flat out idiot.
Better than being a flat out racist IMO.

You said yesterday that McCaffrey didnt play Thelwell in the game because he 'didnt look like him'

NO ONE thinks that. Or anyone that does is a racist like you. I have always enjoyed your take on things but there is no place for that. period. The only way it makes any sense at all is that you're a racist and don't care if people know it.

Did you, or did you not, mean to insinuate that McCaffrey didnt play Thelwell because Thelwell is black?
 
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Better than being a flat out racist IMO.

You said yesterday that McCaffrey didnt play Thelwell in the game because he 'didnt look like him'

NO ONE thinks that. Or anyone that does is a racist like you. I have always enjoyed your take on things but there is no place for that. period. The only way it makes any sense at all is that you're a racist and don't care if people know it.
Stoop talk. Deflection from your BS regarding Thomas and Alito. Take it home, troll.
 
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Better than being a flat out racist IMO.

You said yesterday that McCaffrey didnt play Thelwell in the game because he 'didnt look like him'

NO ONE thinks that. Or anyone that does is a racist like you. I have always enjoyed your take on things but there is no place for that. period. The only way it makes any sense at all is that you're a racist and don't care if people know it.

Yes. I hate being white. Dipshit. You are going sideways because you can't debate an actual subject.

You are not capable of having a conversation without your own misconceived perceptions. It is not a own the lib or own the MAGA. You simply are an idiot
 
Yes. I hate being white. Dipshit. You are going sideways because you can't debate an actual subject.

You are not capable of having a conversation without your own misconceived perceptions. It is not a own the lib or own the MAGA. You simply are an idiot
I'm happy to debate almost anything.

I like conservative, textualist justices and have not seen evidence that Thomas or Alito are corrupt. If they are, or you believe evidence exists, impeach them. You had your chance amirite? I am a fair-minded guy. If they are guilty or corruption, toss them out. But to toss only the second SC justice in history, I am going to need pretty convincing evidence and to date I am not aware that exists.

Most of this seems like partisan mudslinging tbh. Hell I'd be surprised if one or two of your most hated justices' dont step down this 4-year Trump term. That would be great as it would likely cement the conservative majority for 2 more decades with the recent additions of Gorsuch, ACB and Kavanaugh the last Trump term.
 
I'm happy to debate almost anything.

I like conservative, textualist justices and have not seen evidence that Thomas or Alito are corrupt. If they are, or you believe evidence exists, impeach them. You had your chance amirite? I am a fair-minded guy. If they are guilty or corruption, toss them out. But to toss only the second SC justice in history, I am going to need pretty convincing evidence and to date I am not aware that exists.

Most of this seems like partisan mudslinging tbh. Hell I'd be surprised if one or two of your most hated justices' dont step down this 4-year Trump term. That would be great as it would likely cement the conservative majority for 2 more decades with the recent additions of Gorsuch, ACB and Kavanaugh the last Trump term.

They are not textualists. You have been sold a bad turd of shit. They are only textualist when it is convenient.

I expect my judges to be above taking bribes. Sorry you don't see things the same way.
 
No, I am against actual corruption. As in the Biden Crime Syndicate benefiting from an infusion of money from China and Ukraine over the last decade. Then the head of the snake pardoning his son for that entire period so as to immunize him from due prosecution. THAT I am against. The facts seem very clear to me.

I am also against the corrupt intelligence officials that conspired to influence an election, and per polls did so successfully, by signing a letter claiming the Hunter laptop story was a Russian counterintelligence op when in fact it was not. And was known not to be.

So yes, when corruption/conspiracy is found or suspected it should be investigated. I am not against investigating Alito for alleged impropriety if you wish. Look into it. If he's guilty in fact, do what is necessary.

The Trump DOJ can, and should, investigate the inner workings of the Biden DOJ and FBI. If corruption existed, punishment should be meted out accordingly.
Is it the Biden Crime Syndicate? The Clinton Crime syndicate? Or just the Democratic crime syndicate? I can’t tell with y’all.

You choose to ignore the crimes of one party and only focus on what you perceive to be the crimes of the other.

Tell me again how many criminal indictments have been brought forth over the last 30 years against each party.

Either the Democrats are just superior villains completely escaping the reigns of Justice, or you might be wrong.

FYI. You should start with how many of the parties have sat in front of congressional committees and gave their word under the law.
 
I'm happy to debate almost anything.

I like conservative, textualist justices and have not seen evidence that Thomas or Alito are corrupt. If they are, or you believe evidence exists, impeach them. You had your chance amirite? I am a fair-minded guy. If they are guilty or corruption, toss them out. But to toss only the second SC justice in history, I am going to need pretty convincing evidence and to date I am not aware that exists.

Most of this seems like partisan mudslinging tbh. Hell I'd be surprised if one or two of your most hated justices' dont step down this 4-year Trump term. That would be great as it would likely cement the conservative majority for 2 more decades with the recent additions of Gorsuch, ACB and Kavanaugh the last Trump term.
Poor old gus posting crap. Nevermind.
 
Gus, I served my nation in the military. I served my state in another position. I served my local community as a school board member and other philanthropic boards. I will never have to answer to you or your liken. I could care less if I die with a dime in my pocket. I know that I'm a better human than you
 
They are not textualists. You have been sold a bad turd of shit. They are only textualist when it is convenient.

I expect my judges to be above taking bribes. Sorry you don't see things the same way.
The textualism/originalism gambit is a brilliantly disingenuous move by the Fed Soc types. It does nothing to constrain the exercise of judicial power, but people buy into it because it can fit on a bumper sticker. See Heller and Bostock as examples of how indeterminate the products of those "methodologies" truly are.

As a member of the SCOTUS bar, I am truly disappointed in Justice Alito's behavior over the past few years, and I think he is nearing impeachable territory. To say nothing of the fact that his jurisprudential philosophy is so obviously malleable to the outcome he prefers. Textualism and originalism unless they favor my undesired outcome, then we should worry about context, purpose, results, and legislative history. To say nothing of his ethical missteps or his pathetic defenses thereof. Federal judges have been impeached and removed for far less in our history. And he has the nerve to condemn the bar for not coming to his defense after getting called out on his nonsense.

 
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The textualism/originalism gambit is a brilliantly disingenuous move by the Fed Soc types. It does nothing to constrain the exercise of judicial power, but people buy into it because it can fit on a bumper sticker. See Heller and Bostock as examples of how indeterminate the products of those "methodologies" truly are.

As a member of the SCOTUS bar, I am truly disappointed in Justice Alito's behavior over the past few years, and I think he is nearing impeachable territory. To say nothing of the fact that his jurisprudential philosophy is so obviously malleable to the outcome he prefers. Textualism and originalism unless they favor my undesired outcome, then we should worry about context, purpose, results, and legislative history. To say nothing of his ethical missteps or his pathetic defenses thereof. Federal judges have been impeached and removed for far less in our history. And he has the nerve to condemn the bar for not coming to his defense after getting called out on his nonsense.


 
No, I am against actual corruption. As in the Biden Crime Syndicate benefiting from an infusion of money from China and Ukraine over the last decade. Then the head of the snake pardoning his son for that entire period so as to immunize him from due prosecution. THAT I am against. The facts seem very clear to me.

I am also against the corrupt intelligence officials that conspired to influence an election, and per polls did so successfully, by signing a letter claiming the Hunter laptop story was a Russian counterintelligence op when in fact it was not. And was known not to be.

So yes, when corruption/conspiracy is found or suspected it should be investigated. I am not against investigating Alito for alleged impropriety if you wish. Look into it. If he's guilty in fact, do what is necessary.

The Trump DOJ can, and should, investigate the inner workings of the Biden DOJ and FBI. If corruption existed, punishment should be meted out accordingly.
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I conceded this a long time ago.

And FTR, Democrats aren’t exactly innocent. They benefit plenty from this farce of a system.
Nobody says they're innocent but things are so beyond wacked with the Republican Party I have always known that the two sides aren't comparable. The Democrats aren't a whole lot different than they were 30 years ago. The Republicans have gone batshit.
 
Is it the Biden Crime Syndicate? The Clinton Crime syndicate? Or just the Democratic crime syndicate? I can’t tell with y’all.

You choose to ignore the crimes of one party and only focus on what you perceive to be the crimes of the other.

Tell me again how many criminal indictments have been brought forth over the last 30 years against each party.

Either the Democrats are just superior villains completely escaping the reigns of Justice, or you might be wrong.

FYI. You should start with how many of the parties have sat in front of congressional committees and gave their word under the law.
These guys aren't capable of using logic. I am convinced of that.
 
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More people on the left throwing hissy fits over nothing. Alito is trying to help his clerk get a job. Something that every justice does for their clerks. They didn't discuss the case before the court.

After the last 4 years none of you have any basis to complain ever again about impropriety. Especially in literally anything related to court proceedings.
 
More people on the left throwing hissy fits over nothing. Alito is trying to help his clerk get a job. Something that every justice does for their clerks. They didn't discuss the case before the court.

After the last 4 years none of you have any basis to complain ever again about impropriety. Especially in literally anything related to court proceedings.
Right. Like we're supposed to believe that.
 
Right. Like we're supposed to believe that.
They disclosed the call or no one would ever know about it. Believe what you want. Like Fanni Willis is a genius legal mind especially in prosecuting RICO cases and didnt collide with Trumps political opponent in a clear case of election interference. Believe that. Or that New York hasn't attempted.to disenfranchise the rest of the country in choosing a president. Believe that.
 
More people on the left throwing hissy fits over nothing. Alito is trying to help his clerk get a job. Something that every justice does for their clerks. They didn't discuss the case before the court.

After the last 4 years none of you have any basis to complain ever again about impropriety. Especially in literally anything related to court proceedings.

It’s ex parte contact.

You and conservative media would have had a thrombo if Obama was talking to Justice Kagan the week Obamacare was argued.
 
More people on the left throwing hissy fits over nothing. Alito is trying to help his clerk get a job. Something that every justice does for their clerks. They didn't discuss the case before the court.

After the last 4 years none of you have any basis to complain ever again about impropriety. Especially in literally anything related to court proceedings.
If that’s the case maybe some better optics if the call was next week?
 
More people on the left throwing hissy fits over nothing. Alito is trying to help his clerk get a job. Something that every justice does for their clerks. They didn't discuss the case before the court.

After the last 4 years none of you have any basis to complain ever again about impropriety. Especially in literally anything related to court proceedings.
This call could have happened at any point…it just HAPPENED to happen just before the SC hears a case involving Trump.

Even granting Alito the benefit of the doubt, he’s a long-tenured justice who at the very least should know that the very act of calling trump and asking him for a favor creates a conflict of interest. There’s very clearly an implicit quid pro quo there.
 
Also wtf is SCOTUS doing making an emergency ruling like this? They tooks the better part of a year making rulings when dragging them out suited Trump. Now suddenly they can make rulings in just a few days when it benefits Trump? This is why trust in the court is at an all time low.
Ask Sotomeyer, she's the one who did it
 
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Nobody says they're innocent but things are so beyond wacked with the Republican Party I have always known that the two sides aren't comparable. The Democrats aren't a whole lot different than they were 30 years ago. The Republicans have gone batshit.
I’m talking in terms of monetary gain.

The Republican Party has gone completely bat shit crazy and has allowed the lunatic fringe to take over the whole. There’s no denying that.
 
Ethics are not a problem here….neither man has them. And neither man’s offices are bound by ethics, either.
Kangaroo Court. Bonespurs likes to talk about fixed judges in his felont financial case, and yet here he is calling Supreme Court Justices trying to fix his appeal. Just follows his old strategy, always blame the other side for what you're doing. He's a POS. America has to be ashamed.
 
We don't know what they did or didn't discuss, but either way, this is one of those 'appearance of impropriety' situations where you just don't have a call unless there's a very specific non-sinister reason for doing so.

in the world of dc politics, there is a certain reality where people in the G will cross paths in ways that can be unpredictable, you simply can't manage all of them, and de minimis ones are going to happen. but the nature of this particular matter (including its timing) is such that no one should be affirmatively calling anyone.
 
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We don't know what they did or didn't discuss, but either way, this is one of those 'appearance of impropriety' situations where you just don't have a call unless there's a very specific non-sinister reason for doing so.

in the world of dc politics, there is a certain reality where people in the G will cross paths in ways that can be unpredictable, you simply can't manage all of them, and de minimis . but the nature of this particular matter (including its timing) is such that no one should be affirmatively calling anyone.
Particularly given each’s history.
 
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