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OK folks, the imagined Big10 tourney thread got me thinking. Best 12 man lineup in Hawks history. Here is my contribution. Add, subtract, or comment as you see fit. Starters and 7 subs. Yes, some of my selections show I am old!

Starters:
PG- Ronnie Lester
SG-Fred Brown
SF-Roy Marble Sr.
PF-John Johnson
C-Luka Garza

Reserves:

PG-Andre Woolridge
SG-Sam Williams
SF-Don Nelson
PF-Aaron White
C-Kevin Kunnert

PF-Reggie Evans
C-Acie Earl

I know I left out guys that many would have on this list. Settles, Street, Armstrong, Jok, Devyn Marble, etc. Feel free to put your own list up just for fun since we have no NCAA tourney to watch!

P.S. Best TEAM ever-1969-1970 Ralph’s 6 pack
 
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OK folks, the imagined Big10 tourney thread got me thinking. Best 12 man lineup in Hawks history. Here is my contribution. Add, subtract, or comment as you see fit. Starters and 7 subs. Yes, some of my selections show I am old!

Starters:
PG- Ronnie Lester
SG-Fred Brown
SF-Roy Marble Sr.
PF-John Johnson
C-Luka Garza

Reserves:

PG-Andre Woolridge
SG-Sam Williams
SF-Don Nelson
PF-Aaron White
C-Kevin Kunnert

PF-Reggie Evans
C-Acie Earl

I know I left out guys that many would have on this list. Settles, Street, Armstrong, Jok, Devyn Marble, etc. Feel free to put your own list up just for fun since we have no NCAA tourney to watch!

P.S. Best TEAM ever-1969-1970 Ralph’s 6 pack

How about consideration for:

F/G. Carl Cain
F/C. Bill Schoof
C/F. Bill Logan
Bucky O's guys deserve some credit.

and:

G/F. Murray. Weir
+ Iowa's first team All American Center:
C. George Mikan

The older guys were great in their time too!

Thank you.
 
Didn't Mikan go to DePaul?
You may be right about Mikan as I tend to get old things screwed up but I know Iowa had a great Center in those days. Maybe Chuck Darling?!!. Still give some credit to the older guys!



















center in those days. Maybe Chuck Darling? was his name.
 
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OK folks, the imagined Big10 tourney thread got me thinking. Best 12 man lineup in Hawks history. Here is my contribution. Add, subtract, or comment as you see fit. Starters and 7 subs. Yes, some of my selections show I am old!

Starters:
PG- Ronnie Lester
SG-Fred Brown
SF-Roy Marble Sr.
PF-John Johnson
C-Luka Garza

Reserves:

PG-Andre Woolridge
SG-Sam Williams
SF-Don Nelson
PF-Aaron White
C-Kevin Kunnert

PF-Reggie Evans
C-Acie Earl

I know I left out guys that many would have on this list. Settles, Street, Armstrong, Jok, Devyn Marble, etc. Feel free to put your own list up just for fun since we have no NCAA tourney to watch!

P.S. Best TEAM ever-1969-1970 Ralph’s 6 pack
Lots of scoring on that first team and JJ not really a power forward. Maybe him off the bench and rebound warrior Evans to clean the glass for all those shooters......
 
Lots of scoring on that first team and JJ not really a power forward. Maybe him off the bench and rebound warrior Evans to clean the glass for all those shooters......
I thought about JJ’s spot but in 1970 he was the power forward. Just undersized for today’s game. Still, the man was a scoring machine.
 
I thought about JJ’s spot but in 1970 he was the power forward. Just undersized for today’s game. Still, the man was a scoring machine.
Yes he was, but there's only one ball, and Evans would make sure you got most of the misses back for another shot. Could certainly have JJ at SF and Roy coming off the bench, (if he was still around obviously).
 
OP is pretty accurate, although I never saw the guys who played even earlier. JJ might have been the most complete Hawk ever, so I think he has to be first-team. As much as liked Whitey, I probably would replace him with one of the older guys.
 
Lots of scoring on that first team and JJ not really a power forward. Maybe him off the bench and rebound warrior Evans to clean the glass for all those shooters......
Are you kidding? You would put John Johnson on the bench in favor of Reggie Evans for rebounding? Johnson averaged 10.1 rebounds his senior season while Reggie averaged 11.1 rebounds his senior season. For one rebound a game you'd bench John Johnson in favor of Reggie Evans. The same Johnson who made 56.9 % of his shots as compared to Reggie making 49.7% of his shots all from under the basket. The same Johnson who made 75.2 % of his FTA and averaged 28.0 points per game while Reggie shot just a lousy 61.9% of his FTA and averaged only 15.4 points per game. Yeah, I can see why you'd want to bench Johnson, after all Reggie grabbed 1 one more rebound per game.
In today's game position labels mean very little and you want to take Iowa's most prolific scorer and bench him to put in a rebounder.

G- Ronnie Lester 6'2'' 19.9 pts. 2.5 rebs. 6.0 assists
G-Fred Brown 6'3'' 3.8 rebounds and 27.6 points
G-Sam Williams 6'3'' but averaged 10.3 rebounds and 25.3 pts
G-John Johnson 6'7'' 10.1 rebounds and 28 points
C-Luka Garza 6'11'' 23.9 pts. 9.8 rebs

Fred Brown and John Johnson played together in that magical 1970 season. Imagine if Sam Williams who last played in 1968 had played with them.

The first guard off the bench would be B.J.(6'2'' 18.6 points 5.4 assts.) and the second would be Woolridge (6'1'' 20.2 points 2.7 rebs 6.0 assts.)
Kevin Kunnert (7' 0'' 19.2 points and 13.8 rebounds ) would replace Luka and could play alongside of him.
If we wanted to go bigger we could, also, bring in Chuck Darling (6'8'' 25.5 points and averaged 17.6 rebs his Jr. year) and/or Don Nelson (6'6'' 23.8 pts 11.9 rebs) or Greg Stokes (6'10'' 19.9 points 8.4 rebs.). Personally, I could never put together any such list without Chris Street ( 6'8'' 14.5 pts. 9.5 rebs. 89.2% Ft 63.1% FG)

And regarding the best team ever, that would come down to the 1956 Team that played and lost against Bill Russell's San Francisco team in the NCAA Championship game, the 1970 Ralph Miller team that averaged 100 points per game and was undefeated in the Big Ten, and the 1987 Raveling/Davis team that got to the Elite Eight and won 30 games that season. Imagine if Ralph Miller had coached that 1987 team.
 
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Starters:
PG- Ronnie Lester
SG-Fred Brown
SF-Roy Marble Sr.
PF-John Johnson
C-Luka Garza

Reserves:

PG-Andre Woolridge
SG-Sam Williams
SF-Don Nelson
PF-Aaron White
C-Kevin Kunnert

PF-Reggie Evans
C-Acie Earl

This is a pretty good summary........

Nit picking. I'd say both Reggie Evans & Acie probably have a case to be on one of the 2 teams.

And what about Bruce Sky King?? :)
 
Lester v Woolridge. Sam Williams v Fred Brown. JJ v Roy Marble. All fun discussions.

But Garza at Center - no brainer.
 
Lester v Woolridge. Sam Williams v Fred Brown. JJ v Roy Marble. All fun discussions.

But Garza at Center - no brainer.
That is kinda why I started the thread, just to generate the discussion. Gotta do something with our free time at home! Also probably showed my age with selections from the 60s and 70s but those guys could really play! If my Mom was alive she would insist on B J Armstrong on the first team. Her favorite player. A lot of my youth was spent next to the radio listening to game broadcasts. Maybe next thread should be favorite Hawk broadcaster.
 
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How about consideration for:

F/G. Carl Cain
F/C. Bill Schoof
C/F. Bill Logan
Bucky O's guys deserve some credit.

and:

G/F. Murray. Weir
+ Iowa's first team All American Center:
C. George Mikan

The older guys were great in their time too!

Thank you.
Carl Cain, The pride of Freeport, Il & my grandmothers nephew. Of course I never got to see him play but my Aunt & father share about listening to the games on the radio in Waterloo and the “Fabulous Five” and how good they were..

As well as Murray Weir being the head b-ball coach at their high school and coaching great athletes like Don Ross & Jerry Moses. I did not know he played at Iowa thou.. Good to know. Yep, even old school guys deserve a mention!
 
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