Senior year John Johnson averaged 28 points and 10 rebounds per game. Had an outstanding NBA career. Needs to be top five.
Your Top 25 All-Time Hawkeyes MBB
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So, Kevin Gamble doesn't even get a mention in the 'others considered category.'
you are right. Super Sam could take the ball to the basket and had a great vertical but was not an outside threat at all. great great person as well. used to give me a ride home if practices ended together.
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short story about a couple of the fab five players of the late 50”s. we were playing a pick up game on the varsity court at the old field house. couple of older guys asked if they could get in. said sure and I ended up guarding one. he may have been the best passer I had ever played against….at least in a non regular season game. found out after we were done the two players were Bill Seaberg and Sharm Scheuerman.
different time and a different type game. both great athletes and both would have adjusted. actually think Andre would have been even better back then. after dr Tom having Andre play with a cracked wrist his entire first year his three point suffered during his career at Iowa.…no three point shots baxk then. where Ronnies quickness would have been a major asset in todays game Dre’s ability to penetrate and dish would have been huge.
he and freddy brown were as good as any two pair we have ever had.
edit to add: lot of people on here would have not liked that team…..not into defense so much but omg they could score.
Ronnie could penetrate and dish with the best of them. He could have played in any era of basketball.
pretty sure that is exactly what I said. didn’t shoot from distance but there was no three then either
I'm not shading Woolridge. He was a great player in his own right. I watched both play. I just think Lester was the superior player. You are right, the 3-point line did not exist in Ronnie's era but he could hit from distance.
And I think with four subs and Nelson they took #1 Ohio St. to the final sec. or into overtime.
Nice list…someone did a lot of work.
I’d have found room for Houston Breedlove, Tom Chapman and maybe a Glenn Vidnovik in the list….Most shockingly…or did I just miss it….no Chris Street? Chris is Top 5 all-time….and #1 in Hawkeye hearts forever.
I’d have found room for Houston Breedlove, Tom Chapman and maybe a Glenn Vidnovik in the list….Most shockingly…or did I just miss it….no Chris Street? Chris is Top 5 all-time….and #1 in Hawkeye hearts forever.
Didn't see Reggie Evans or Matt Gatens, figured they at least make an appearance. Tough list to make though!
Not sure anyone could argue that point. Ronnie was the best and showed pure class while he beat you!
Chris pervall ?spelling. He was electric in Sam Williams era. Ronnie Lester was the best. If Fran ever gets someone like Ronnie, hawks get a natty.
He didn't play with pretty average players. He played with damned good players, four of whom didn't meet the academic standards (which were tougher then than today.) The team was ranked 4th nationally when the four starters were ruled in eligible. Despite that, the team finished second in the Big Ten.
The Big Ten had a rule at the time that if an athlete failed a single course, he was ineligible. Didn't matter what the overall GPA was, none of that.
Sam might have been the best player to ever play for Miller at Iowa. Sam just didn’t have the support Lester had. Sam was really a fine/ smart player.
Sam was an amazing player, but I would never rank him higher than John Johnson or Fred Brown.
A lot of great discussion on this thread...love all the opinions and recommendations. 👍
Still would like a little more substance on why certain players should be added or moved up.
My original list....(since edited twice)...took into account All-American selections, All-Conference selections, All-Time rankings in the stats book (mainly their career total in a particular category), etc.
I get that most of you have fond memories of certain players and would add them to your list, but that's a bit arbitrary and subjective without facts to state why they should replace someone or be moved up.
Still would like a little more substance on why certain players should be added or moved up.
My original list....(since edited twice)...took into account All-American selections, All-Conference selections, All-Time rankings in the stats book (mainly their career total in a particular category), etc.
I get that most of you have fond memories of certain players and would add them to your list, but that's a bit arbitrary and subjective without facts to state why they should replace someone or be moved up.
OP a fine list. For consideration, Bruce Sky King and Clay Hargrave forgive the spelling. King was a big scorer and I believe Clay led the BIG in rebounding at like 6’4”.
Reggie Evans perhaps. Did we get players from Bucky O Connors final four teams.
Regardless a fun trip down memory lane.
Reggie Evans perhaps. Did we get players from Bucky O Connors final four teams.
Regardless a fun trip down memory lane.
Oh yes, Chris Pervall a top player who was a bit it the shadows of others but very good. I sure hope Fran can get someone even 3/4s of Lester which is better than he has had.
Well, I would….plus I think Sam was probably the most important “get” Ralph got at Iowa… without Sam both JJ and Freddy would have gone somewhere else, I think. Sam wasn’t “Super Sam” without reason.
Ralph and Maury John were both outstanding at spotting and signing Juco talent. Sam, JJ and Freddy were certainly Ralph's three best.
Actually, no. Just thinking of Iowa players who had strong NBA careers to think about players who also stood out at Iowa. If we're voting up 'favorites' I'd be offering Vince Brookins for the list.
Settles was one of the top 10 players I’ve seen at Iowa, and I’ve watched since Ronnie Lester. The back injury really robbed him, but he had the best freshman year I’ve seen. Would have easily been an all American and had a long pro career. Much better than Kenyon or Brunner.
Great point about Settles’ back issues derailing him towards the end. I was actually debating between him and Brunner at #18. In the end went with GB due to accomplishing what he did with such a height disadvantage won me over.
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Always a difficult question. I want to put guys like Kevin Gamble and Val Barnes on the list but I’m not sure if they make the cut. Regardless, I loved watching them play.
Brunner’s work ethic was incredible. There’s room on every team for his type of effort but very few have come close to what he brought to each game.
Thank you!
Bruce is at #19 on the list.
I could consider Clay for the 'others to consider' list, but would need to research him more...regardless that's an impressive stat about him leading the B1G in rebounding at ~6'4".
Reggie is one of my personal all-time favorites, but so are Val Barnes and Vince Brookins...neither of them made the list either. Gotta draw the line somewhere. You'll notice that most of the names on the list were either First Team All-Conference or were multiple All-Conference selections. Many still rank highly in certain statistical categories. Others without those accompishments simply made too great of an impact on the program to ignore. Out of Reggie, Val and Vince I'd say Reggie made the greatest impact. He was a beast and lead them to a B1G Tournament Championship.
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One could only imagine if he had played.
https://www.blackheartgoldpants.com...e-basketball-career-that-could-have-been-bhgp
Iowa's 'John Havlicek' baby.
Seriously though, I could possibly be persuaded to replace him with someone from the 'others to consider' list (or anyone else) if you'd care to make a case?
Off the top of my head I'd probably consider replacing him with someone like Ed Horton or Kevin Kunnert.
I don't per se have a better choice for you but I remember Kevin being more of a role player than anything. He also had a younger brother, I believe, who played for Iowa.Iowa's 'John Havlicek' baby.
Seriously though, I could possibly be persuaded to replace him with someone from the 'others to consider' list (or anyone else) if you'd care to make a case?
Off the top of my head I'd probably consider replacing him with someone like Ed Horton or Kevin Kunnert.
Boyle would be one of the top 5 defenders on the list, but that not a requirement at Iowa!!
